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Why are there so many more does than bucks? #4223258
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I saw 22 does in a field yesterday where I live. Not a single horn amongst them. Very minimal hunting pressure in several miles in any direction. We don't shoot any does and kill 1-2 bucks a year.


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Re: Why are there so many more does than bucks? [Re: Beadlescomb] #4223271
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A number of factors contribute. Buck disbursement, harvest on properties in a two - five square mile radius, higher natural mortality due to rigors of rut and secretive/noctural nature of bucks in general.

We have a couple of old ag fields where you can sit and see 15-30 does and yearlings and not an altered buck all season.

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Re: Why are there so many more does than bucks? [Re: Beadlescomb] #4223272
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Because y’all have too many does.


It's hard to kiss the lips at night that chews your a$$ all day long.


Re: Why are there so many more does than bucks? [Re: Beadlescomb] #4223292
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We honestly see as many bucks as does on my cameras the last 3-4 years.


Everything woke turns to shucks
Re: Why are there so many more does than bucks? [Re: globe] #4223295
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Originally Posted by globe
We honestly see as many bucks as does on my cameras the last 3-4 years.



You're the exception to the rule in Alabama.

Re: Why are there so many more does than bucks? [Re: Beadlescomb] #4223305
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Originally Posted by Beadlescomb
I saw 22 does in a field yesterday where I live. Not a single horn amongst them. Very minimal hunting pressure in several miles in any direction. We don't shoot any does and kill 1-2 bucks a year.

It dont take the (wrong person) over a pile a corn very long to destroy a property with no restrictions. I have deer traveling over a mile on a regular basis right now and they havent even started scraping yet. All it takes is a feeder in a back yard or on a 3 or 4 acre spot somewhere and if it gets hunted often it can be severe.

Re: Why are there so many more does than bucks? [Re: Beadlescomb] #4223325
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I have more bucks than does, or at least I did. It seems that a little trigger restraint is beginning to fix that.

Re: Why are there so many more does than bucks? [Re: abolt300] #4223326
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Originally Posted by abolt300
Originally Posted by globe
We honestly see as many bucks as does on my cameras the last 3-4 years.



You're the exception to the rule in Alabama.

So did we (Club i was in) Until we stopped shooting does for several seasons and only Bucks. Went from mostly Buck pics to nothing but does, and a hard really exciting Rut to we didn't even recognize ifn they were rutting at all 😆


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Re: Why are there so many more does than bucks? [Re: James] #4223348
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Originally Posted by James
Originally Posted by abolt300
Originally Posted by globe
We honestly see as many bucks as does on my cameras the last 3-4 years.



You're the exception to the rule in Alabama.

So did we (Club i was in) Until we stopped shooting does for several seasons and only Bucks. Went from mostly Buck pics to nothing but does, and a hard really exciting Rut to we didn't even recognize ifn they were rutting at all 😆

Same thing happened to us. Sure it was great seeing all those does but our rut went to crap and would hardly see any bucks at all. Now we try to keep the does in check. We try to take 1 doe per 100ac we have. We usually end up close to that and maybe a few more every season. We now see bucks on a regular basis and have a pretty decent rut as long as the weather cooperates. Not sure if that’s the right way to do it but it works for us. Also we only try to take out mature does. Especially the ones that like to walk around just blowing at any little thing that moves.


It's hard to kiss the lips at night that chews your a$$ all day long.


Re: Why are there so many more does than bucks? [Re: James] #4223354
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Originally Posted by James
Originally Posted by abolt300
Originally Posted by globe
We honestly see as many bucks as does on my cameras the last 3-4 years.



You're the exception to the rule in Alabama.

So did we (Club i was in) Until we stopped shooting does for several seasons and only Bucks. Went from mostly Buck pics to nothing but does, and a hard really exciting Rut to we didn't even recognize ifn they were rutting at all 😆

Man, James, dont be typing that on here. Dont you know that CORN and doe shootin' has the deer herd in Alabama, headed straight toward extinction. Talking about shooting does gets CNC just as fired up as telling him that Milroe is not going to win the heisman and is currently ranked 44th in the nation in raw QBR, even though he's the greatest QB to ever put on pads. rofl

Re: Why are there so many more does than bucks? [Re: crocker] #4223370
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Originally Posted by crocker

It dont take the (wrong person) over a pile a corn very long to destroy a property with no restrictions. I have deer traveling over a mile on a regular basis right now and they havent even started scraping yet. All it takes is a feeder in a back yard or on a 3 or 4 acre spot somewhere and if it gets hunted often it can be severe.


Yep.....the number of folks doing that has increased dramatically and more bucks have been killed as a result......Just is what it is


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Re: Why are there so many more does than bucks? [Re: Beadlescomb] #4223377
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Alabama has a young buck killing problem. That some are tying to fix with a doe blasting problem.

It don't work. Never has and never will.

If all you have is does stop shooting small bucks. It's that simple. Not shooting them? Well someone is.


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Re: Why are there so many more does than bucks? [Re: Beadlescomb] #4223378
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Go ahead and get ready to pout about it or whatever you want to do but I bet you a dollar to a doughnut that tags are on the way ..... wink

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Re: Why are there so many more does than bucks? [Re: Beadlescomb] #4223398
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I think you answered your own question

Re: Why are there so many more does than bucks? [Re: Beadlescomb] #4223403
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I remember back around 2007 some well known Auburn grads claiming we needed "harvest records" to straighten out the buck to doe ratios and buck age structure etc. etc. in Alabama. That turned into "game check" and all it's wonderful benefits.

Now. 20 years later we need tags to git 'er done?

Re: Why are there so many more does than bucks? [Re: Beadlescomb] #4223404
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I see the same deer every morning and afternoon. Problem is there is a ton of feed between the two bridges and only you and one other guy shooting them. Been like that for at least 10 years or so. Note that I did see one really big body deer in the hayfield about 6 weeks ago. He/it was a stud. Definitely caught my eye when I crossed the county line. Saw him twice in two weeks and too foggy the other time to see a rack from where he was standing. Might be at least one out there for you.


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Re: Why are there so many more does than bucks? [Re: CNC] #4223405
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Go ahead and get ready to pout about it or whatever you want to do but I bet you a dollar to a doughnut that tags are on the way ..... wink


I'm good with that


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Re: Why are there so many more does than bucks? [Re: Lec] #4223407
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Originally Posted by Lec
I remember back around 2007 some well known Auburn grads claiming we needed "harvest records" to straighten out the buck to doe ratios and buck age structure etc. etc. in Alabama. That turned into "game check" and all it's wonderful benefits.

Now. 20 years later we need tags to git 'er done?


If by “git 'er done” you mean compensate for the additional buck harvesting that baiting created…….then yes, probably so


We dont rent pigs
Re: Why are there so many more does than bucks? [Re: CNC] #4223415
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How will tags make people kill does when they don't want to kill does?

Re: Why are there so many more does than bucks? [Re: Lec] #4223422
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Originally Posted by Lec
How will tags make people kill does when they don't want to kill does?



It won’t!!


It's hard to kiss the lips at night that chews your a$$ all day long.


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