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Re: Killing does on a small property?
[Re: turkey247]
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I got to learn more about this homestead you speak of. You said “miles in either direction”. I’ll take that as at least 2 miles, potentially more. Two miles in every direction means you are in the middle of 10,240 acres. If you have a hundred acres, surrounding by 10000 acres of land, that is not legally hunted - then that is by far, one of the rarest places in the state of AL. I’ve worked forestry and studied maps in about every corner of the state. I’m pretty familiar with the national forests and public land scene - but these are obviously hunted properties.
Guess I’m just curious where this jewel exists. Mining company land all around us state park butt's up to that then a couple miles of high fence past that
We will burn that bridge when we get there
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Re: Killing does on a small property?
[Re: Beadlescomb]
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I don't know how many acres it is around me on my side of the road but huntstand shows it to be about a 3000 acre block of land with no to very minimal hunting pressure. There are two guys across the highway that hunt and we swap pictures and never do have the same bucks on camera. One guy kills a buck or two a year when he's not traveling for work. I think he didn't kill anything last year. Then the other guy is about two miles from me on the opposite side of the road. They kill a good many does but he's very selective on the bucks they kill.
We will burn that bridge when we get there
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Re: Killing does on a small property?
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I own a small piece of land but I feed year round and pull a lot of deer off of other property’s. I’ve got a lot of deer hanging on my property and over the years the does have over populated it and all the bucks I had living on it have moved to other places only to be seen here and there instead of all the time. By the first of January the few bucks I have left go to neighboring properties to be with a doe instead of a lot of does. The bucks will chase and breed does from January 1 until there horns fall off the first part of April. To me there is no rut on my property anymore. Back when my numbers were in check the rut was intense but now you rarely see any rut activity. When my numbers were in check there was always bucks living on my property and you would see just as many bucks as you do does but now it’s not like that. I plan on taking some kids or people in need of meat to shoot several off my property this year especially the ones that don’t breed and all they do is eat every year then they get a ticket to the processor
Same thing happened at the house.
Would walk over a naked woman to get to a gobblin turkey!
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Re: Killing does on a small property?
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I’m planning to have a “doe blow” hunt on an afternoon the 1st weekend in December. Absolutely no bucks will be shot no matter what size and no more does shot rest of season. Planing to have 4 maybe 5 stands with hunters allowed to shoot a doe, hogs, coyotes, and bobcats. Sounds like great fun! I’ll prob sit at barn and drink beer and let em go at it. It’s 250 acres in bullock and I’ve seen as many as 22 does at a sit. Always see 6 or 7. I figure we take 5 or 6 out and let it rest a while that will be ok. What's the end goal just to shoot a few does? Everytime we try it someone shoots a button buck or spike and a few does and we basically end up right where started just down a few deer.
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Re: Killing does on a small property?
[Re: Ben2]
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I’m planning to have a “doe blow” hunt on an afternoon the 1st weekend in December. Absolutely no bucks will be shot no matter what size and no more does shot rest of season. Planing to have 4 maybe 5 stands with hunters allowed to shoot a doe, hogs, coyotes, and bobcats. Sounds like great fun! I’ll prob sit at barn and drink beer and let em go at it. It’s 250 acres in bullock and I’ve seen as many as 22 does at a sit. Always see 6 or 7. I figure we take 5 or 6 out and let it rest a while that will be ok. What's the end goal just to shoot a few does? Everytime we try it someone shoots a button buck or spike and a few does and we basically end up right where started just down a few deer. If you shoot a button buck or spike while doe killing you haven’t hurt a thing. Those are bucks likely to disperse anyway. If less than 20% of your antlerless harvest is young bucks you’re not doing any damage. He has plenty of deer, and wants to share that opportunity with others. Killing 5-6 does out of a group of 22 is not detrimental in any way.
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Re: Killing does on a small property?
[Re: Beadlescomb]
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CNC
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People are gonna say that you gotta shoot some of them eventually as if they will just keep on piling in and accumulating more and more does…..That’s not what happens though……They typically hit a point where social stress over resources kicks in and the older does run anything else off…….You’ll get to a point of seeing 20 does or so and that will be as many as you ever see….
This is why people talk about not seeing bucks anymore when doe populations get high in an area……Those old does are running off any young bucks that try to disperse into the area and set up shop…..This is how bucks end up often times setting up their core area in secondary locations….That’s just how the population dynamics set up on a landscape scale…..Shooting does in this scenario opens up holes for young bucks to fill….This idea would be ok if you had a lot of land and a lot of deer…..Your not going to grow bucks on 100 acres though…..the best strategy in this situation is to draw them to you with hot unpressured nooky
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