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Re: How many does do we need to shoot??
[Re: CNC]
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bhammedic84
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really hard to do anything with free range deer... you kill "x" number and 4 more take its place. its really really hard when your land boarders 3 sides of public.. we got a rule on our lease that we have to kill 4.5 or older and 8 or bigger.. but those deer that are not quite to the qualifications slip off on the wma then they get shot...
Turkey’s tell you when they want to die not lawmakers.
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Re: How many does do we need to shoot??
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Snuffy
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I don't know but in 30 yrs we have shot 30 does a yr to 0 does a yr for several consecutive seasons during different attempts to make a change and basically it does not matter, the only thing we noticed the several yrs we shot 30 was we saw fewer deer. Size and weight did not increase # of bucks did not increase, rut activity did not increase. So now we just shoot one if we want and don't worry about it. ^^^This^^^
If you always do what you've always done you always get what you've always got
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Re: How many does do we need to shoot??
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Mbrock
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I don't know but in 30 yrs we have shot 30 does a yr to 0 does a yr for several consecutive seasons during different attempts to make a change and basically it does not matter, the only thing we noticed the several yrs we shot 30 was we saw fewer deer. Size and weight did not increase # of bucks did not increase, rut activity did not increase. So now we just shoot one if we want and don't worry about it. ^^^This^^^ Hmmmm. We see all of the above on properties we manage with selective doe harvest based on the data we have. If you can improve habitat and correct the sex ratio all of those things happen as a result. It takes a lot of land, because neighbors affect what you’re doing, but I’ve seen it work very well.
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Re: How many does do we need to shoot??
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Re: How many does do we need to shoot??
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Ben2
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I don't know but in 30 yrs we have shot 30 does a yr to 0 does a yr for several consecutive seasons during different attempts to make a change and basically it does not matter, the only thing we noticed the several yrs we shot 30 was we saw fewer deer. Size and weight did not increase # of bucks did not increase, rut activity did not increase. So now we just shoot one if we want and don't worry about it. ^^^This^^^ Hmmmm. We see all of the above on properties we manage with selective doe harvest based on the data we have. If you can improve habitat and correct the sex ratio all of those things happen as a result. It takes a lot of land, because neighbors affect what you’re doing, but I’ve seen it work very well. 1500 acres, soybeans, corn, millet, wheat, clover etc etc. You can Holler at me anytime and come check it out and see what you think. Bring the kids and take some does home with you
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Re: How many does do we need to shoot??
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I don't know but in 30 yrs we have shot 30 does a yr to 0 does a yr for several consecutive seasons during different attempts to make a change and basically it does not matter, the only thing we noticed the several yrs we shot 30 was we saw fewer deer. Size and weight did not increase # of bucks did not increase, rut activity did not increase. So now we just shoot one if we want and don't worry about it. It’s most likely due to a neighbor or neighbors around you who probably have a lot of good fawning habitat and good fawn recruitment rates……They probably arent shooting any does or maybe only a few and they have allowed their property or properties to basically max out the doe population…..So therefore they are basically spilling does outward annually looking for gaps in the landscape to fill in……If you take out 30 then you’ve just opened up holes for them. As it is now you’ve basically joined whoever those other folks are in doing the same thing….. Any extra does you produce are just doing the same thing those were now and are being pressured off to somewhere else. You’ve maxed out the number of does the fawning cover and/or food resources will support without social conflict occurring……
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We dont rent pigs
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Re: How many does do we need to shoot??
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I aint got nothin or nowhere…ill just shoot what i want on public land…rule free and unencumbered by numbers…i just wanna kill…lots and lots…i dont care which…just make them dead…if i kill 25 deer a year…odds are 3 will be bucks…and the rest doe…so..that solves the problem regardless. Dont care if i kill a buck…just care if i kill…we like to eat..and i need the meat
"I dont quit.. And ill fight alone if i have to"
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Re: How many does do we need to shoot??
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Pwyse
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I aint got nothin or nowhere…ill just shoot what i want on public land…rule free and unencumbered by numbers…i just wanna kill…lots and lots…i dont care which…just make them dead…if i kill 25 deer a year…odds are 3 will be bucks…and the rest doe…so..that solves the problem regardless. Dont care if i kill a buck…just care if i kill…we like to eat..and i need the meat Meat and dots. And you love both!
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Re: How many does do we need to shoot??
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I aint got nothin or nowhere…ill just shoot what i want on public land…rule free and unencumbered by numbers…i just wanna kill…lots and lots…i dont care which…just make them dead…if i kill 25 deer a year…odds are 3 will be bucks…and the rest doe…so..that solves the problem regardless. Dont care if i kill a buck…just care if i kill…we like to eat..and i need the meat Meat and dots. And you love both! CC1 is the Ellipsis…King!
We’re not dead. We just smell that way. Dayum. - AC870
Yessir! I’m always gonna shoot what makes me happy and I want everyone else to do the same! If you shoot one be proud of it and don’t worry what anyone else thinks. - SJ22
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Re: How many does do we need to shoot??
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CarbonClimber1
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Not my fault nobody put no limit on the dot thingys..better than comma…………..big pause…little pause………………..pause for sarcastic effect….just fill in the blank
"I dont quit.. And ill fight alone if i have to"
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Re: How many does do we need to shoot??
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I’m on your team brother…I’m a dot lover…too!
We’re not dead. We just smell that way. Dayum. - AC870
Yessir! I’m always gonna shoot what makes me happy and I want everyone else to do the same! If you shoot one be proud of it and don’t worry what anyone else thinks. - SJ22
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