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High shoulder shot
#4232049
11/19/24 06:59 AM
11/19/24 06:59 AM
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Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 570 Lake View
tombo51
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School me on this shot I’ve always been a behind the shoulder guy but deer usually run 50-100 yards, I’ve shot does in the neck with good results, I hunt in fairly hilly steep terrain and would rather them not run if possible, if someone could post some pics of where to aim that would be great
All men die few ever really live
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Re: High shoulder shot
[Re: tombo51]
#4232051
11/19/24 07:05 AM
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Posts: 36,859 alabama
BhamFred
Freak of Nature
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the danger with high shoulder shots is shooting too high. Shot too high a deer will usually immediately fall, only to jump up and run off. Usually not recovered.
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
proud Cracker-Americaan
muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
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Re: High shoulder shot
[Re: tombo51]
#4232056
11/19/24 07:13 AM
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Gobble4me757
12 point
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I try to shoot through both shoulders. Works for me
2017 Team Aldeer Turkey Contest Champion 2018 Team Aldeer Turkey Contest Champion
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Re: High shoulder shot
[Re: tombo51]
#4232078
11/19/24 07:56 AM
11/19/24 07:56 AM
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2Dogs
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If broadside and possible , I always take the high percentage shot, most forgiving shot, a line straight up the back of the front leg , 1/3 the way up the body. That's a kill zone the size of a basket ball. I don't care if they run 50 yards , they're dead.
Shoot with a rifle same as with a bow. Think of the chest , lungs and heart as a basketball , what do I do to make the bullet or arrow go through the center of the ball.
"Why do you ask"?
Always vote the slowest path to socialism.
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Re: High shoulder shot
[Re: tombo51]
#4232097
11/19/24 08:26 AM
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ridgestalker
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If In a spot that I’m afraid he’ll death run off the mtn or a bluff.
"The Heavens declare the glory of God;and the firmament sheweth his handiwork" Pslam 19:1
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Re: High shoulder shot
[Re: ridgestalker]
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11/19/24 08:54 AM
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If In a spot that I’m afraid he’ll death run off the mtn or a bluff. Been there , done that.
"Why do you ask"?
Always vote the slowest path to socialism.
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Re: High shoulder shot
[Re: tombo51]
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11/19/24 09:05 AM
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deadeye48
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Where the point of the shoulder blade is will be the place to shoot It breaks both shoulders and damages the spine and the deer is always DOTS
When I need expert advice I tend to talk to myself The older I get the better I used to be
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Re: High shoulder shot
[Re: 2Dogs]
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11/19/24 10:39 AM
11/19/24 10:39 AM
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AU338MAG
Old Mossy Horns
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If broadside and possible , I always take the high percentage shot, most forgiving shot, a line straight up the back of the front leg , 1/3 the way up the body. That's a kill zone the size of a basket ball. I don't care if they run 50 yards , they're dead.
Shoot with a rifle same as with a bow. Think of the chest , lungs and heart as a basketball , what do I do to make the bullet or arrow go through the center of the ball. THIS. ^^^^^^^^^
Dying ain't much of a living boy...Josey Wales
Molon Labe
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Re: High shoulder shot
[Re: Mbrock]
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11/19/24 01:10 PM
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Clayton
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High shoulder is one of the most risky shots to take. It’s very effective if you hit the CNS in the spine between the shoulder blades. However, if you miss 2” forward or 1” high you’ll give him a good case of temporarily paralysis, you’ll call your buddies in celebration, and he’ll jump up and run off never to be found. Then you’ll call CNC to bring his dog out there and waste everyone’s time. Take the double lung. Even if they run you’ve got a dead deer. The difference in a 16” pie plate kill zone and a baseball is what you’re looking at. There’s plenty of shooters who can hit a baseball at 100+ yards. Then there’s a whole lot who think they can but actually can’t while hunting. This is exactly what happened to me last year.......phone calls included, even down to calling CNC and wasted his and my time.
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Re: High shoulder shot
[Re: tombo51]
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11/19/24 01:50 PM
11/19/24 01:50 PM
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Posts: 26,123 Locust Fork, Alabama
BC
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Center mass on the shoulder...... the heck with that small amount of meat. You break them shoulders and get all that goody between them and he's done.
"Some men are mere hunters; others are turkey hunters."
-- Archibald Rutledge
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Re: High shoulder shot
[Re: tombo51]
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11/19/24 03:09 PM
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TDog93
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What Bham Fred said
I shoot N O P region
Hunt the wind - leave it better than you found it - love your neighbor as you love your self We need prayer for our country now more than ever
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Re: High shoulder shot
[Re: Claims Rep.]
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11/19/24 03:18 PM
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Mbrock
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Matt, where exactly is this mythical high shoulder shot located anyways…. When people shoot for DE and end up hitting 234. That’s where it all goes bad. There’s an area where the spine actually drops below the top of the back in the neck/shoulder region. All the vitals are below that. So if you nick the spine on the top side or miss it by an inch all it does is deliver temporary paralysis.
Last edited by Mbrock; 11/19/24 03:19 PM.
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Re: High shoulder shot
[Re: tombo51]
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11/19/24 04:22 PM
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2Dogs
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O is in that position for a reason .
"Why do you ask"?
Always vote the slowest path to socialism.
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Re: High shoulder shot
[Re: tombo51]
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11/19/24 06:26 PM
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buckhunter2
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This the money spot for high shoulder shot. Blue is spinal cord, clip it and the running gear doesn’t work. The problem is a lot of folks zero at 200 yards (or just can’t shoot), which puts it about 2” high at 100 yards. So if the deer is around 100 yards, you’ll impact higher than point of aim and just get a back whack.
You're only as good as your worst shot-
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Re: High shoulder shot
[Re: buckhunter2]
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11/19/24 07:19 PM
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2Dogs
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This the money spot for high shoulder shot. Blue is spinal cord, clip it and the running gear doesn’t work. The problem is a lot of folks zero at 200 yards (or just can’t shoot), which puts it about 2” high at 100 yards. So if the deer is around 100 yards, you’ll impact higher than point of aim and just get a back whack. With all due respect, the problem is folks aren't aiming at that little pink square between the two red areas and the two ribs. You aim there , you have much more than 2" any direction for error.
"Why do you ask"?
Always vote the slowest path to socialism.
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Re: High shoulder shot
[Re: 2Dogs]
#4232458
11/19/24 08:20 PM
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Posts: 17,303 Huntsville, AL
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O is in that position for a reason . Exactly.
Jesus... I hope you know Him personally like I do.
Si vis pacem, para bellum.
Proud crossbow hunter!
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Re: High shoulder shot
[Re: Mbrock]
#4232549
11/20/24 01:45 AM
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marshmud991
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High shoulder is one of the most risky shots to take. It’s very effective if you hit the CNS in the spine between the shoulder blades. However, if you miss 2” forward or 1” high you’ll give him a good case of temporarily paralysis, you’ll call your buddies in celebration, and he’ll jump up and run off never to be found. Then you’ll call CNC to bring his dog out there and waste everyone’s time. Take the double lung. Even if they run you’ve got a dead deer. The difference in a 16” pie plate kill zone and a baseball is what you’re looking at. There’s plenty of shooters who can hit a baseball at 100+ yards. Then there’s a whole lot who think they can but actually can’t while hunting. I bought a 4” steel target and set it up at my 200yd target. I’m able to hit it fairly consistently with a good rest. It was very humbling at first for me and my buddies. You would think a 4” target at 200yds is an easy shot but it can have its challenges.
It's hard to kiss the lips at night that chews your a$$ all day long.
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Re: High shoulder shot
[Re: hillmp]
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11/20/24 09:28 AM
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Posts: 12,345 Sylacauga, AL
poorcountrypreacher
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I aim for the spot between the F and N with the 308. With a 150g NBT, he will be dead and on the ground a second after I touch the trigger if I hit anywhere close to where I am aiming. If hit further back, he might run a few yards, but he will still be dead. I have a whole lot of room for error in any direction, and I don't believe the dead zone below the backbone exists with this load. The 30 caliber bullet at 2920 has enough energy that most of it is going all the way through the deer, but that bullet fragments enough that something will always get in the vitals. At least, it always has so far. If I decide to shoot one with the ML I will aim for O.
All the labor of man is for his mouth, and yet the appetite is not filled.
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Re: High shoulder shot
[Re: UncleHuck]
#4233065
11/20/24 09:42 PM
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Posts: 19,363 North AL
AU338MAG
Old Mossy Horns
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The spot between the triangle that MFN makes is my preferred spot, assuming true broadside.
I will aim either slightly forward or back depending on quartered to or away. I guess the best way to describe it is I aim for the exit I want more than the entrance.
Best advice on this thread.
Dying ain't much of a living boy...Josey Wales
Molon Labe
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Re: High shoulder shot
[Re: tombo51]
#4233074
11/20/24 09:52 PM
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Posts: 11,371 Central Alabama
Cuz-Pat
Booner
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Booner
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I'm shooting H O P area and I've got myself a dead deer every time.
Cuz-Pat
Patton's European Mounts Professional Quality Skull & Antler Taxidermy Since 1998
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