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Re: Duck Activity - North AL
[Re: Overland]
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12/15/24 05:08 PM
12/15/24 05:08 PM
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kyles
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Re: Duck Activity - North AL
[Re: Overland]
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12/15/24 06:07 PM
12/15/24 06:07 PM
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BrandonClark
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6.50 for 4 week old mallard ducklings at a place in Georgia. Heard he sold 180,000 year before last
Job 12:7-9
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Re: Duck Activity - North AL
[Re: kyles]
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12/15/24 08:17 PM
12/15/24 08:17 PM
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cartervj
Freak of Nature
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How much does it cost to get birds to release. I am not promoting it I just wandered The ones I knew of doing it money wasn’t an issue, not even close. I looked into it and it wasn’t bad per duck it’s was getting the setup going that stopped me. Supposed to get them young like jot flying or barely flying so they’d imprint on the area.
“Socialism only works in two places: Heaven where they don't need it and hell where they already have it.” ― Ronald Reagan
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Re: Duck Activity - North AL
[Re: Overland]
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12/16/24 01:49 PM
12/16/24 01:49 PM
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Goatkiller
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I've duck hunted for over 40 years. For fun and commercially.
It use to be common knowledge that ducks migrate and imprint on an area. They return year after year. Banding waterfowl probably started in the early 1900's.
Everyone knew this.
Now enter 60 day 6 duck seasons. You have 1 billion ducks... ok.... but how many come to your area? And what happens after 20 years of shooting at them daylight to dark for 60 days with a 6 duck limit?
I think that's what has happened. We've shot up all the ducks that migrate in the name of money. The 60 day season is all about MONEY. More days afield = more hunters, more leases and more licenses.
The unfortunate thing is that Alabama isn't on a flyway. So what has happened in N. Alabama has been accelerated due to that fact. Whereas in Arkansas they are on the flyway so it is inevitable and appears after a couple weeks into the season.... success is dependent on open water and the ice situation.
So no matter what happens... we... meaning those of us on the Southern End of the Flyway continue to kill all the migrating ducks year after year. And I guess we'll just keep doing it until we ruin it because some dipchit in a plane somewhere says he's "counted" plenty. And it's always more than the LTA... go figure.
That ignores everything we use to know as fact and this is clearly NOT how to appropriately manage our Waterfowl. When we went to 60 day season I said we'd never go back and we'd have record numbers every year until hunter's success is so bad people quit.
No government employees were harmed in the making of this mess.
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Re: Duck Activity - North AL
[Re: Goatkiller]
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12/16/24 02:38 PM
12/16/24 02:38 PM
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I've duck hunted for over 40 years.
The unfortunate thing is that Alabama isn't on a flyway. . Where did you learn that garbage? Alabama is absolutely in a flyway. Few know what its proper name is, however. I’ve know since I graduated with a wildlife science degree that Alabama sits right in the middle of what is known as the “Lost Flyway”. It is called that because any duck that shows up here is surely lost! 😂😂
If you do the things you need to do when you need to do them then someday you can do the things you want to do when you want to do them.
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Re: Duck Activity - North AL
[Re: Goatkiller]
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12/17/24 09:02 AM
12/17/24 09:02 AM
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Posts: 1,285 Lamar
Fishduck
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I've duck hunted for over 40 years. For fun and commercially.
It use to be common knowledge that ducks migrate and imprint on an area. They return year after year. Banding waterfowl probably started in the early 1900's.
Everyone knew this.
Now enter 60 day 6 duck seasons. You have 1 billion ducks... ok.... but how many come to your area? And what happens after 20 years of shooting at them daylight to dark for 60 days with a 6 duck limit?
I think that's what has happened. We've shot up all the ducks that migrate in the name of money. The 60 day season is all about MONEY. More days afield = more hunters, more leases and more licenses.
The unfortunate thing is that Alabama isn't on a flyway. So what has happened in N. Alabama has been accelerated due to that fact. Whereas in Arkansas they are on the flyway so it is inevitable and appears after a couple weeks into the season.... success is dependent on open water and the ice situation.
So no matter what happens... we... meaning those of us on the Southern End of the Flyway continue to kill all the migrating ducks year after year. And I guess we'll just keep doing it until we ruin it because some dipchit in a plane somewhere says he's "counted" plenty. And it's always more than the LTA... go figure.
That ignores everything we use to know as fact and this is clearly NOT how to appropriately manage our Waterfowl. When we went to 60 day season I said we'd never go back and we'd have record numbers every year until hunter's success is so bad people quit. Absolute truth here. If you want to imprint ducks in an area, it takes years. Duck hunting has been monetized to the point of no return!!!
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Re: Duck Activity - North AL
[Re: cartervj]
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12/17/24 10:14 AM
12/17/24 10:14 AM
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donia
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How much does it cost to get birds to release. I am not promoting it I just wandered The ones I knew of doing it money wasn’t an issue, not even close. I looked into it and it wasn’t bad per duck it’s was getting the setup going that stopped me. Supposed to get them young like jot flying or barely flying so they’d imprint on the area. A landowner in the Delta did it for his hunters, once. I was told by a good friend of the landowner that the hunters had suitcases of money and were happy to give it up to kill ducks. It is a good thing they weren't after the meat, because they were very skinny ducks! They never learned to feed on their own, even with a "caretaker" that led them to food every day. He is the only person they had interaction with and it was on a 4wheeler while blowing a whistle while leading them. Hunters were happy with it, but they didn't try it again, due to the effort it took trying to imprinting them, as well as keeping predators off of them (caught once with Temik hotdogs for Coyotes and reprimanded/fined, early in the project).
experience is a freakin' awesome teacher....
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Re: Duck Activity - North AL
[Re: Goatkiller]
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12/17/24 06:10 PM
12/17/24 06:10 PM
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Posts: 21,072 colbert county
cartervj
Freak of Nature
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colbert county
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I've duck hunted for over 40 years. For fun and commercially.
It use to be common knowledge that ducks migrate and imprint on an area. They return year after year. Banding waterfowl probably started in the early 1900's.
Everyone knew this.
Now enter 60 day 6 duck seasons. You have 1 billion ducks... ok.... but how many come to your area? And what happens after 20 years of shooting at them daylight to dark for 60 days with a 6 duck limit?
I think that's what has happened. We've shot up all the ducks that migrate in the name of money. The 60 day season is all about MONEY. More days afield = more hunters, more leases and more licenses.
The unfortunate thing is that Alabama isn't on a flyway. So what has happened in N. Alabama has been accelerated due to that fact. Whereas in Arkansas they are on the flyway so it is inevitable and appears after a couple weeks into the season.... success is dependent on open water and the ice situation.
So no matter what happens... we... meaning those of us on the Southern End of the Flyway continue to kill all the migrating ducks year after year. And I guess we'll just keep doing it until we ruin it because some dipchit in a plane somewhere says he's "counted" plenty. And it's always more than the LTA... go figure.
That ignores everything we use to know as fact and this is clearly NOT how to appropriately manage our Waterfowl. When we went to 60 day season I said we'd never go back and we'd have record numbers every year until hunter's success is so bad people quit. Pressure pressure pressure I’ve seen it affect every critter I’ve hunted the more pressure, the bigger response. Late season quail flush wild when you pull up to the area. Deer don’t move when you drive into the area. No to little gobbling as pressure increases. Ducks flaring to calls or decoys. Ducks leaving the area because of constant harassment. How many times years ago would you flush ducks off a hole and setup ad wait as they filtered backing Hat happens now, flushed and gone is the usual nowadays
“Socialism only works in two places: Heaven where they don't need it and hell where they already have it.” ― Ronald Reagan
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Re: Duck Activity - North AL
[Re: Overland]
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12/17/24 06:15 PM
12/17/24 06:15 PM
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Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 21,072 colbert county
cartervj
Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
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Watching the XBoat series the biologist from LA stating that looking at the numbers everything remained consistent. Overall harvest numbers are similar. The biggy is kills per hunter declined somewhat significantly along with hunter sentiment
Look at Arkansas and how reliant they are on duck season. Without it they would crash I bet. Rural Arkansas is all about farming and ducks and that’s where their economy is. How many rural eateries close if the hunting off season.
“Socialism only works in two places: Heaven where they don't need it and hell where they already have it.” ― Ronald Reagan
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Re: Duck Activity - North AL
[Re: Overland]
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12/21/24 07:11 AM
12/21/24 07:11 AM
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Joined: Jul 2021
Posts: 4,082 North Al.
Paint Rock 00
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Bringing in ducks will work but controlling and not hunting them for 2-4 years is the hard part. If they establish and raise young you’ll be fine but it takes years. The one brought in may not migrate until wild ducks move them. Food and more food and habitats. Never over hunt a place. Resting areas for the birds full of food. Kill every coon and skunk and possum and coyote and fox. Mid to late spring floods kills the nesting sites.
Last edited by Paint Rock 00; 12/21/24 07:13 AM.
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Re: Duck Activity - North AL
[Re: Overland]
#4250736
12/23/24 10:42 AM
12/23/24 10:42 AM
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Joined: Mar 2015
Posts: 5,277 AL
Gobble4me757
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12 point
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AL
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Worked some mallards groups this am. None completely committed but was fun
2017 Team Aldeer Turkey Contest Champion 2018 Team Aldeer Turkey Contest Champion
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