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Seating Issue
#4259748
01/06/25 09:00 PM
01/06/25 09:00 PM
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Joined: May 2010
Posts: 6,129 Cullman
CKyleC
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(Can't Keep It Up...)
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I've never had this issue. It's extremely hard to seat a bullet....
.308
All Lake City Brass, FL sized. Not trimmed, it doesn't need it yet.
Bullet: Hornady 150gr FMJBT w/cannelure, not pulls, not 2nds. A random sampling measures .3065-.307 measuring between the cannelure and boattail.
After sizing, the case mouth measured .305. It was impossible to seat abullet without shaving it. So, I ran some through my 21st century mandrel that measures .306. Still shaving bullets and extremely hard to seat.
I could ALMOST understand this issue if it wasn't a boat tail.
The only thing I haven't done is chamfer the inside of the case mouth. That shouldn't be necessary with a .3065-.307 boattail bullet going into a .306 case mouth.
Thoughts?
"In Alabama, we prefer to kill small bucks on big properties"-Turkey247
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Re: Seating Issue
[Re: CKyleC]
#4259776
01/06/25 09:23 PM
01/06/25 09:23 PM
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Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 20,117 North AL
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Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
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Have you chamfered the case mouth?
Dying ain't much of a living boy...Josey Wales
Molon Labe
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Re: Seating Issue
[Re: CKyleC]
#4259777
01/06/25 09:23 PM
01/06/25 09:23 PM
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Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 6,114 Lower AL
k bush
12 point
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12 point
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Inside chamfer. Other thought is hardness of the brass. Neck annealing would soften but a lot of trouble.
Another thought would be brushing necks with powdered mica or other dry lube
"Cull" is just another four letter word...
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Re: Seating Issue
[Re: CKyleC]
#4259786
01/06/25 09:29 PM
01/06/25 09:29 PM
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Joined: May 2010
Posts: 6,129 Cullman
CKyleC
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Chamfer is the only thing I haven’t done.
The necks have dry lube on them from me running them over the mandrel. That’s another reason I can’t make myself believe a chamfer would be needed at this point
"In Alabama, we prefer to kill small bucks on big properties"-Turkey247
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Re: Seating Issue
[Re: CKyleC]
#4259792
01/06/25 09:32 PM
01/06/25 09:32 PM
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Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
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Chamfer.
Also, the neck will be slightly smaller than .306 when using a .306 mandrel due to brass spring back.
Dying ain't much of a living boy...Josey Wales
Molon Labe
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Re: Seating Issue
[Re: CKyleC]
#4259820
01/06/25 09:56 PM
01/06/25 09:56 PM
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Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 15,105 Tuscaloosa Co.
N2TRKYS
Old Mossy Horns
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Old Mossy Horns
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Always chamfer. Why would you chamfer?
83% of all statistics are made up.
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Re: Seating Issue
[Re: CKyleC]
#4259898
01/07/25 01:18 AM
01/07/25 01:18 AM
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Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 3,584 Demop
1bamashooter
10 point
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10 point
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Are you wet tumbling your brass with pins? If you are it's peening the case mouth stop tumbling and chamfer then mandrel.
Keep your booger hooker off the bang switch.
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Re: Seating Issue
[Re: CKyleC]
#4259916
01/07/25 03:37 AM
01/07/25 03:37 AM
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Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 13,505 behind my Dillon
dave260rem!
Pope of Aldeer and Expert
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Pope of Aldeer and Expert
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Get a 4 lb hamm..no nevermind chamfer instead.
Skinny is my EX.Alcohol was involved.
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Re: Seating Issue
[Re: dave260rem!]
#4260056
01/07/25 10:12 AM
01/07/25 10:12 AM
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Posts: 10,017 USA
marshmud991
Booner
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Get a 4 lb hamm..no nevermind chamfer instead. Ok Grandpa!!! That was his solution for most everything. Get a bigger hammer!!
It's hard to kiss the lips at night that chews your a$$ all day long.
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Re: Seating Issue
[Re: CKyleC]
#4260178
01/07/25 02:37 PM
01/07/25 02:37 PM
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Joined: May 2010
Posts: 6,129 Cullman
CKyleC
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(Can't Keep It Up...)
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Chamfering is going to be a good chore for my son tonight.
The peening of the case mouth is a real possibility. These were cleaned before I stopped using pins.
"In Alabama, we prefer to kill small bucks on big properties"-Turkey247
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Re: Seating Issue
[Re: CKyleC]
#4260255
01/07/25 05:11 PM
01/07/25 05:11 PM
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Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 10,017 USA
marshmud991
Booner
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Booner
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I can definitely tell when I miss a case while chamfering. It lets you know real fast.
It's hard to kiss the lips at night that chews your a$$ all day long.
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Re: Seating Issue
[Re: dawgdr]
#4263396
01/11/25 05:35 PM
01/11/25 05:35 PM
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Posts: 3,584 Demop
1bamashooter
10 point
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10 point
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If the cases have been been sized / loaded more than 3 times, anneal the necks. Easy to do with a candle. PM me if you’d like details. Anneal 5 cases and see if problem goes away. A candle you say? I'd do some more research on how to anneal if I were you
Keep your booger hooker off the bang switch.
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Re: Seating Issue
[Re: 1bamashooter]
#4263537
01/11/25 08:18 PM
01/11/25 08:18 PM
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Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 10,017 USA
marshmud991
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If the cases have been been sized / loaded more than 3 times, anneal the necks. Easy to do with a candle. PM me if you’d like details. Anneal 5 cases and see if problem goes away. A candle you say? I'd do some more research on how to anneal if I were you A small propane torch and a socket on a drill/driver makes for fast easy annealing
It's hard to kiss the lips at night that chews your a$$ all day long.
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Re: Seating Issue
[Re: marshmud991]
#4263553
01/11/25 08:42 PM
01/11/25 08:42 PM
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Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 3,584 Demop
1bamashooter
10 point
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10 point
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If the cases have been been sized / loaded more than 3 times, anneal the necks. Easy to do with a candle. PM me if you’d like details. Anneal 5 cases and see if problem goes away. A candle you say? I'd do some more research on how to anneal if I were you A small propane torch and a socket on a drill/driver makes for fast easy annealing Yep that's all you need really that's how I started and a bottle of Templaq
Keep your booger hooker off the bang switch.
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Re: Seating Issue
[Re: marshmud991]
#4263629
01/11/25 09:45 PM
01/11/25 09:45 PM
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Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 20,117 North AL
AU338MAG
Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
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If the cases have been been sized / loaded more than 3 times, anneal the necks. Easy to do with a candle. PM me if you’d like details. Anneal 5 cases and see if problem goes away. A candle you say? I'd do some more research on how to anneal if I were you A small propane torch and a socket on a drill/driver makes for fast easy annealing This works great and is cheap. I once wasted 10 minutes trying the candle method...
Dying ain't much of a living boy...Josey Wales
Molon Labe
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Re: Seating Issue
[Re: 1bamashooter]
#4264012
01/12/25 01:01 PM
01/12/25 01:01 PM
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Joined: Feb 2014
Posts: 208 GA/AL
dawgdr
4 point
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4 point
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If the cases have been been sized / loaded more than 3 times, anneal the necks. Easy to do with a candle. PM me if you’d like details. Anneal 5 cases and see if problem goes away. A candle you say? I'd do some more research on how to anneal if I were you And if I were you, I’d Google “John Barsness candle annealing” and read and learn something.
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Re: Seating Issue
[Re: CKyleC]
#4264125
01/12/25 04:09 PM
01/12/25 04:09 PM
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Posts: 3,584 Demop
1bamashooter
10 point
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Keep doing what you do then I'll keep time to temp and time at temp that's required to properly anneal
Keep your booger hooker off the bang switch.
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Re: Seating Issue
[Re: dawgdr]
#4264206
01/12/25 05:38 PM
01/12/25 05:38 PM
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Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 20,117 North AL
AU338MAG
Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
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Posts: 20,117
North AL
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If the cases have been been sized / loaded more than 3 times, anneal the necks. Easy to do with a candle. PM me if you’d like details. Anneal 5 cases and see if problem goes away. A candle you say? I'd do some more research on how to anneal if I were you And if I were you, I’d Google “John Barsness candle annealing” and read and learn something. I've read it and tried it. Torch with a cordless drill and deep socket is MUCH easier.
Dying ain't much of a living boy...Josey Wales
Molon Labe
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