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IRS on Chopping Block #4262159 01/10/25 10:13 AM 01/10/25 10:13 AM
Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 72,325 Luverne, AL Skinny OP GUVNER
Skinny OP GUVNER Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 72,325 Luverne, AL	Rep. Buddy Carter introduced the Abolish IRS and Income Tax bill this morning. If any part of it gets through, its better than where we are at right now. I really am hopeful that some of it will get passed. https://x.com/IanJaeger29/status/1877543054799786444 "Never Trust Government" -- Smart people. "The Great thing we should Fear and the Weird Thing we Trust is Elon Musk" -- Me "You can be broke but you cant be poor." -- Ruthie-May Webster

Re: IRS on Chopping Block [Re: Skinny] #4262172 01/10/25 10:30 AM 01/10/25 10:30 AM
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Re: IRS on Chopping Block [Re: Skinny] #4262188 01/10/25 10:49 AM 01/10/25 10:49 AM
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Ben2 Freak of Nature B Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 20,037 Pelham	Yep then pass 10% tax for everyone no matter income level

Re: IRS on Chopping Block [Re: Skinny] #4262191 01/10/25 10:51 AM 01/10/25 10:51 AM
Joined: Dec 2015 Posts: 25,072 blount county alabama jwalker77 Pumpkin - The Thermal Expert
jwalker77 Pumpkin - The Thermal Expert Joined: Dec 2015 Posts: 25,072 blount county alabama	I would be willing to bet, if you take away the money the politicians steal, the money being sent to other countries we get absolutely no benefit from, and money spent funding sin and abominations here in our country most Americans would absolutely be opposed to, and spend our tax money instead on the services it was meant and advertised to be spent on, income tax would not be needed, likely the services would be better, pretty sure it all could be paid for on the current sales tax. If tarrifs were added that are fair, considering the particular circumstances, i believe the govt services we legitamitely need and use would be improved dramatically. I dont know about doing away with the IRS, our country needs some sort of accounting service but it could absolutely be streamlined down to probably 10% of what it currently is.

Re: IRS on Chopping Block [Re: Skinny] #4262196 01/10/25 10:53 AM 01/10/25 10:53 AM
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Andalusia 10 point Joined: Jan 2017 Posts: 4,720 Lower Alabama	Congress says they need many months just to make Trump tax cuts permanent!! Can you imagine how long it would take for them to abolish IRS and then vote a new system in?? Never happen!! "It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it"

Re: IRS on Chopping Block [Re: jwalker77] #4262201 01/10/25 10:58 AM 01/10/25 10:58 AM
Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 21,929 colbert county cartervj Freak of Nature
cartervj Freak of Nature Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 21,929 colbert county	Originally Posted by jwalker77 I would be willing to bet, if you take away the money the politicians steal, the money being sent to other countries we get absolutely no benefit from, and money spent funding sin and abominations here in our country most Americans would absolutely be opposed to, and spend our tax money instead on the services it was meant and advertised to be spent on, income tax would not be needed, likely the services would be better, pretty sure it all could be paid for on the current sales tax. If tarrifs were added that are fair, considering the particular circumstances, i believe the govt services we legitamitely need and use would be improved dramatically. I dont know about doing away with the IRS, our country needs some sort of accounting service but it could absolutely be streamlined down to probably 10% of what it currently is. DOGE “Socialism only works in two places: Heaven where they don't need it and hell where they already have it.” ― Ronald Reagan

Re: IRS on Chopping Block [Re: Andalusia] #4262202 01/10/25 10:59 AM 01/10/25 10:59 AM
Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 72,325 Luverne, AL Skinny OP GUVNER
Skinny OP GUVNER Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 72,325 Luverne, AL	Originally Posted by Andalusia Congress says they need many months just to make Trump tax cuts permanent!! Can you imagine how long it would take for them to abolish IRS and then vote a new system in?? Never happen!! Elon says. "Can you imagine catching a skyscraper in mid-air"? "Never Trust Government" -- Smart people. "The Great thing we should Fear and the Weird Thing we Trust is Elon Musk" -- Me "You can be broke but you cant be poor." -- Ruthie-May Webster

Re: IRS on Chopping Block [Re: Skinny] #4262205 01/10/25 11:02 AM 01/10/25 11:02 AM
Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 26,793 Tampa B Beer Belly Freak of Nature
Beer Belly Freak of Nature B Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 26,793 Tampa	How about just making no tax on $ under $1,000,000 income. No Deductions. Companies $50,000,000 income. No Deductions Then you could get all of the liberals behind it. Cut the IRS from ~$16 billion to ~$1 billion. -------------- For what it is worth: I still agree with me! A big man will stand up for himself; a great man will stand up for others. Processor Map: https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/edit?mid=1OTDcvGoo3puyO-CV10he3pH97IE

Re: IRS on Chopping Block [Re: cartervj] #4262207 01/10/25 11:05 AM 01/10/25 11:05 AM
Joined: Dec 2015 Posts: 25,072 blount county alabama jwalker77 Pumpkin - The Thermal Expert
jwalker77 Pumpkin - The Thermal Expert Joined: Dec 2015 Posts: 25,072 blount county alabama	Originally Posted by cartervj Originally Posted by jwalker77 I would be willing to bet, if you take away the money the politicians steal, the money being sent to other countries we get absolutely no benefit from, and money spent funding sin and abominations here in our country most Americans would absolutely be opposed to, and spend our tax money instead on the services it was meant and advertised to be spent on, income tax would not be needed, likely the services would be better, pretty sure it all could be paid for on the current sales tax. If tarrifs were added that are fair, considering the particular circumstances, i believe the govt services we legitamitely need and use would be improved dramatically. I dont know about doing away with the IRS, our country needs some sort of accounting service but it could absolutely be streamlined down to probably 10% of what it currently is. DOGE Man, i hope so. It would absolutely life changing for every American

Re: IRS on Chopping Block [Re: Skinny] #4262211 01/10/25 11:10 AM 01/10/25 11:10 AM
Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 21,929 colbert county cartervj Freak of Nature
cartervj Freak of Nature Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 21,929 colbert county	Yep All those tax credits need to go too. There’s a way to make it work so it’ll be hard to scam which takes the politicians incentives away. Trump’s team can solve it if allowed to “Socialism only works in two places: Heaven where they don't need it and hell where they already have it.” ― Ronald Reagan

Re: IRS on Chopping Block [Re: Skinny] #4262218 01/10/25 11:22 AM 01/10/25 11:22 AM
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Backwards cowboy 8 point B Joined: Jan 2022 Posts: 1,852 Xroads	If they abolish income tax, I will get a maga tattoo, register to vote, and start to believe there might be a glimmer of hope for our political system! But I have a better chance of being the starting qb for the superbowl than that happening

Re: IRS on Chopping Block [Re: Skinny] #4262220 01/10/25 11:26 AM 01/10/25 11:26 AM
Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 72,325 Luverne, AL Skinny OP GUVNER
Skinny OP GUVNER Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 72,325 Luverne, AL	The first thing DOGE should do is immediately cut every single outflow of every dollar from the Federal government, total monetary bank freeze, globally. All of it, including the EBT and welfare and Medicare/Medicaid, DoD money, federal checks, FDIC, T-bills, all of it. Then you will be able to easily see who is on the take. Keep it totally frozen with an indefinite time limit. Within two days, the global public will figure out who the genuine assholes are. "Never Trust Government" -- Smart people. "The Great thing we should Fear and the Weird Thing we Trust is Elon Musk" -- Me "You can be broke but you cant be poor." -- Ruthie-May Webster

Re: IRS on Chopping Block [Re: Skinny] #4262251 01/10/25 12:08 PM 01/10/25 12:08 PM
Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 21,929 colbert county cartervj Freak of Nature
cartervj Freak of Nature Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 21,929 colbert county	Originally Posted by Skinny The first thing DOGE should do is immediately cut every single outflow of every dollar from the Federal government, total monetary bank freeze, globally. All of it, including the EBT and welfare and Medicare/Medicaid, DoD money, federal checks, FDIC, T-bills, all of it. Then you will be able to easily see who is on the take. Keep it totally frozen with an indefinite time limit. Within two days, the global public will figure out who the genuine assholes are. And that’s why we need to be prepared “Socialism only works in two places: Heaven where they don't need it and hell where they already have it.” ― Ronald Reagan

Re: IRS on Chopping Block [Re: Skinny] #4262258 01/10/25 12:15 PM 01/10/25 12:15 PM
Joined: Jan 2022 Posts: 1,852 Xroads B Backwards cowboy 8 point
Backwards cowboy 8 point B Joined: Jan 2022 Posts: 1,852 Xroads	Originally Posted by Skinny The first thing DOGE should do is immediately cut every single outflow of every dollar from the Federal government, total monetary bank freeze, globally. All of it, including the EBT and welfare and Medicare/Medicaid, DoD money, federal checks, FDIC, T-bills, all of it. Then you will be able to easily see who is on the take. Keep it totally frozen with an indefinite time limit. Within two days, the global public will figure out who the genuine assholes are. You should run for president! This would be awesome

Re: IRS on Chopping Block [Re: Skinny] #4262263 01/10/25 12:26 PM 01/10/25 12:26 PM
Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 72,325 Luverne, AL Skinny OP GUVNER
Skinny OP GUVNER Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 72,325 Luverne, AL	Doing that would also show just how broke Microsoft and Google actually are. Because the bulk of their money is government money from all around the World, which is all US dollars. "Never Trust Government" -- Smart people. "The Great thing we should Fear and the Weird Thing we Trust is Elon Musk" -- Me "You can be broke but you cant be poor." -- Ruthie-May Webster

Re: IRS on Chopping Block [Re: Skinny] #4262266 01/10/25 12:30 PM 01/10/25 12:30 PM
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3toe Talking Turkey 3 Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 27,108 Helena	Well, while it sounds good in theory, I think if that happened the US would turn into The Purge pretty quick as the people who can't eat because their welfare was cut off will do whatever they can to get food, etc. It would need to be a process over a time period, but I'm all for it.

Re: IRS on Chopping Block [Re: Skinny] #4262285 01/10/25 01:01 PM 01/10/25 01:01 PM
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Hayzeus 8 point H Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 1,889 NW AL	I demand reparations!

Re: IRS on Chopping Block [Re: Skinny] #4262307 01/10/25 01:32 PM 01/10/25 01:32 PM
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Pwyse 14 point P Joined: Jan 2017 Posts: 6,709 Mobile, AL	I don’t know what the answer is but none of the scenarios above sound like they would work. I do like the idea of a flat tax.

Re: IRS on Chopping Block [Re: Pwyse] #4262332 01/10/25 01:50 PM 01/10/25 01:50 PM
Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 72,325 Luverne, AL Skinny OP GUVNER
Skinny OP GUVNER Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 72,325 Luverne, AL	Originally Posted by Pwyse I don’t know what the answer is but none of the scenarios above sound like they would work. I do like the idea of a flat tax. A flat tax is still inflation dependent and creates a pool of money for politicians to play with. If you think the politicians wont inflate the pool of money, well then reality and you have a problem. "Never Trust Government" -- Smart people. "The Great thing we should Fear and the Weird Thing we Trust is Elon Musk" -- Me "You can be broke but you cant be poor." -- Ruthie-May Webster

Re: IRS on Chopping Block [Re: Skinny] #4262333 01/10/25 01:50 PM 01/10/25 01:50 PM
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leroycnbucks Freak of Nature Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 25,289 Buc-ee’s Beach Express	Tax me on what I spend. Not what I earn. It’s actually none of the federal government’s business on how much money you make. Show me where it says that in the constitution. It’s their way to further divide us by class warfare. Proud Army and ALNG veteran God Bless America!

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