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Re: Blood Trails and the 6.5 cm. (Bullet Advice)
[Re: BC]
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Yesterday at 02:31 PM
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G/H
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I have no idea about the stuff above, but I shoot the Hornady ELD-X. I haven’t had a problem out of my 6.5. I shot a doe a month ago, she spun and ran. Thought she would be dead in the field, she actually made it a good distance. Hit her behind the leg, must have it bone and came out gut on the other side. It looked like she spray painted the sage grass with red.
Last edited by G/H; Yesterday at 04:25 PM.
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Re: Blood Trails and the 6.5 cm. (Bullet Advice)
[Re: BC]
#4264911
Yesterday at 02:35 PM
Yesterday at 02:35 PM
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Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 12,289 Kennedy, al
globe
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Booner
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Kennedy, al
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I don’t care if a deer runs or not. I don’t get the fascination with drt. I’ve used solid bullets and ballistic tips with great results, but ballistic tips do way more damage.
Everything woke turns to shucks
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Re: Blood Trails and the 6.5 cm. (Bullet Advice)
[Re: BC]
#4264992
Yesterday at 04:14 PM
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hawndog
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Re: Blood Trails and the 6.5 cm. (Bullet Advice)
[Re: hawndog]
#4265000
Yesterday at 04:31 PM
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N2TRKYS
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The ablr is a pretty soft bullet. Fast expansion, moderate penetration. I have been shooting Accubond in my 30-06 for a while. It does a good job killing them, but much like your experience. There is not much exit and very little blood. Most of the deer I shot no trailing needed. But still sometimes, they are going to run, and when they do I want to be able to find it. If you want a big hole out the back go to something a bit harder. In my 30-06 I changed from 165 Accubond to 180 Fusion this year. last deer I shot looked like a seen from a horror movie. Blood everywhere. I am happy with this change so far.
Check velocity on a chrono. That is the only way to know what you are getting. That is a really short barrel especially for small bore like a 6.5. Might need to enlist the help from a handloading friend to see if you can get the velocities up.
If you want them to go down fast. Shoot more towards shoulder. That is a safe shot, but they are usually going to run a bit hit back like that. That’s the opposite experience I’ve had with regular Accubonds. It’s very, very rare for me to not get a bloodtrail and for it to start at the shot site. That’s across several different cartridges.
83% of all statistics are made up.
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Re: Blood Trails and the 6.5 cm. (Bullet Advice)
[Re: N2TRKYS]
#4265013
Yesterday at 04:52 PM
Yesterday at 04:52 PM
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Posts: 1,739 Tuscaloosa
hawndog
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The ablr is a pretty soft bullet. Fast expansion, moderate penetration. I have been shooting Accubond in my 30-06 for a while. It does a good job killing them, but much like your experience. There is not much exit and very little blood. Most of the deer I shot no trailing needed. But still sometimes, they are going to run, and when they do I want to be able to find it. If you want a big hole out the back go to something a bit harder. In my 30-06 I changed from 165 Accubond to 180 Fusion this year. last deer I shot looked like a seen from a horror movie. Blood everywhere. I am happy with this change so far.
Check velocity on a chrono. That is the only way to know what you are getting. That is a really short barrel especially for small bore like a 6.5. Might need to enlist the help from a handloading friend to see if you can get the velocities up.
If you want them to go down fast. Shoot more towards shoulder. That is a safe shot, but they are usually going to run a bit hit back like that. That’s the opposite experience I’ve had with regular Accubonds. It’s very, very rare for me to not get a bloodtrail and for it to start at the shot site. That’s across several different cartridges. Im not here to argue, just trying to understand why we are getting different results. I started off shooting 150 AB in 30-06 at a chrono of 2950. I shot them for several years, with similar results. with 15-20 deer exit the size of a dime very little blood, but also a very dead deer. I recovered several bullets, and weighed them, got 80% weight retention and about 12-14 inches of penetration. Changed to a 165 going 2900 in hopes of better performance but same result. I shot 5 deer with 6.5 creedmore 130 grain in the Accubond LR at 2800. with similar results. It has a is faster expansion than the original AB. I have not changed bullets with that rifle, but I do not hunt with it, bought that one for my wife, but I had to test it for her lol.
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Re: Blood Trails and the 6.5 cm. (Bullet Advice)
[Re: hawndog]
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Yesterday at 05:31 PM
Yesterday at 05:31 PM
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Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 14,988 Tuscaloosa Co.
N2TRKYS
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Booner
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The ablr is a pretty soft bullet. Fast expansion, moderate penetration. I have been shooting Accubond in my 30-06 for a while. It does a good job killing them, but much like your experience. There is not much exit and very little blood. Most of the deer I shot no trailing needed. But still sometimes, they are going to run, and when they do I want to be able to find it. If you want a big hole out the back go to something a bit harder. In my 30-06 I changed from 165 Accubond to 180 Fusion this year. last deer I shot looked like a seen from a horror movie. Blood everywhere. I am happy with this change so far.
Check velocity on a chrono. That is the only way to know what you are getting. That is a really short barrel especially for small bore like a 6.5. Might need to enlist the help from a handloading friend to see if you can get the velocities up.
If you want them to go down fast. Shoot more towards shoulder. That is a safe shot, but they are usually going to run a bit hit back like that. That’s the opposite experience I’ve had with regular Accubonds. It’s very, very rare for me to not get a bloodtrail and for it to start at the shot site. That’s across several different cartridges. Im not here to argue, just trying to understand why we are getting different results. I started off shooting 150 AB in 30-06 at a chrono of 2950. I shot them for several years, with similar results. with 15-20 deer exit the size of a dime very little blood, but also a very dead deer. I recovered several bullets, and weighed them, got 80% weight retention and about 12-14 inches of penetration. Changed to a 165 going 2900 in hopes of better performance but same result. I shot 5 deer with 6.5 creedmore 130 grain in the Accubond LR at 2800. with similar results. It has a is faster expansion than the original AB. I have not changed bullets with that rifle, but I do not hunt with it, bought that one for my wife, but I had to test it for her lol. That 6.5 ABLR is a 129 grain, not 130 grain. I’m not trying to argue either. I’m just saying that I’ve had different results in case folks read this researching bullets. I’ve used the regular Accubond in 25-06, 270, 30-06, 7-08, 308, 7 SAUM, 7 mag, 6.5 Creedmoor, 6.5 PRC, and hoping to use one in a 223 before the season goes out.
83% of all statistics are made up.
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Re: Blood Trails and the 6.5 cm. (Bullet Advice)
[Re: BC]
#4265111
Yesterday at 07:12 PM
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Posts: 16,269 Brierfield
Beadlescomb
Old Mossy Horns
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Old Mossy Horns
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I really liked the 120 grain Barnes in the 6 5
We will burn that bridge when we get there
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Re: Blood Trails and the 6.5 cm. (Bullet Advice)
[Re: quailman]
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Yesterday at 07:12 PM
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Beadlescomb
Old Mossy Horns
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Old Mossy Horns
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Here's an Exit hole for ya. I'm disappointed that isn't a spike
We will burn that bridge when we get there
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Re: Blood Trails and the 6.5 cm. (Bullet Advice)
[Re: Beadlescomb]
#4265171
Yesterday at 07:48 PM
Yesterday at 07:48 PM
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Posts: 13,581 In a Van, down by the River
quailman
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Here's an Exit hole for ya. I'm disappointed that isn't a spike I was too. Not my lucky day.
Life is a journey. Make sure and bring plenty of Beer.
My luck has been so bad lately, it could be raining pussies and I'd catch one with a dick broke off in it.
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Re: Blood Trails and the 6.5 cm. (Bullet Advice)
[Re: hawndog]
#4265173
Yesterday at 07:49 PM
Yesterday at 07:49 PM
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Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 13,581 In a Van, down by the River
quailman
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Here's an Exit hole for ya. Impressive. what you shooting? Encore 300wm. And shooting those Hornady American Whitetail that so many tell me are crap.
Life is a journey. Make sure and bring plenty of Beer.
My luck has been so bad lately, it could be raining pussies and I'd catch one with a dick broke off in it.
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Re: Blood Trails and the 6.5 cm. (Bullet Advice)
[Re: BC]
#4265183
Yesterday at 07:55 PM
Yesterday at 07:55 PM
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Posts: 3,907 SE Bama
Bull64
10 point
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SE Bama
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Re: Blood Trails and the 6.5 cm. (Bullet Advice)
[Re: lefthorn]
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Yesterday at 09:18 PM
Yesterday at 09:18 PM
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Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 5,314 Heart of Dixie
Narrow Gap
12 point
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12 point
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Posts: 5,314
Heart of Dixie
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I wish Winchester still made the xp3. That was a bad round there!! I have a couple of boxes of Winchester XP3 270 Win.
Duty, Honor, Country
Robert E. Lee
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Re: Blood Trails and the 6.5 cm. (Bullet Advice)
[Re: Narrow Gap]
#4265257
Yesterday at 09:25 PM
Yesterday at 09:25 PM
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Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 8,566 Chelsea, AL
lefthorn
14 point
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14 point
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Posts: 8,566
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I wish Winchester still made the xp3. That was a bad round there!! I have a couple of boxes of Winchester XP3 270 Win. Oh really???? I called those Thor’s hammer! Hurt me and the deer with those 150 grain bullets, LOL
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