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Re: Blood Trails and the 6.5 cm. (Bullet Advice) [Re: BC] #4264906
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I have no idea about the stuff above, but I shoot the Hornady ELD-X. I haven’t had a problem out of my 6.5. I shot a doe a month ago, she spun and ran. Thought she would be dead in the field, she actually made it a good distance. Hit her behind the leg, must have it bone and came out gut on the other side. It looked like she spray painted the sage grass with red.

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Re: Blood Trails and the 6.5 cm. (Bullet Advice) [Re: BC] #4264907
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Hornady did an amazing job hyping that round, and those high BC bullets are really impressive on sight-in day, but IT'S TOO SLOW. Use 120gr or less bullet to get the speed up, then you'll be back to usual deer rifle results.

Also, if you take out the heart, it don't pump no more blood out. Don't shoot it. It's the best meat on the deer anyway.

Re: Blood Trails and the 6.5 cm. (Bullet Advice) [Re: BC] #4264911
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I don’t care if a deer runs or not. I don’t get the fascination with drt.
I’ve used solid bullets and ballistic tips with great results, but ballistic tips do way more damage.


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Re: Blood Trails and the 6.5 cm. (Bullet Advice) [Re: BC] #4264992
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Here is what a "slow" relatively hard 180 grain Fusion does to a deer fired from a 30-06. Deer was quartering towards a little. Hit shoulder. exit 5 inches back from shoulder on other side. Nice big exit. 40 yard blood trail that Ray Charles could follow.[Linked Image][Linked Image][Linked Image]

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I’ve had great success with the Hornady ELD-X 142gr

Re: Blood Trails and the 6.5 cm. (Bullet Advice) [Re: hawndog] #4265000
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Originally Posted by hawndog
The ablr is a pretty soft bullet. Fast expansion, moderate penetration. I have been shooting Accubond in my 30-06 for a while. It does a good job killing them, but much like your experience. There is not much exit and very little blood. Most of the deer I shot no trailing needed. But still sometimes, they are going to run, and when they do I want to be able to find it. If you want a big hole out the back go to something a bit harder. In my 30-06 I changed from 165 Accubond to 180 Fusion this year. last deer I shot looked like a seen from a horror movie. Blood everywhere. I am happy with this change so far.

Check velocity on a chrono. That is the only way to know what you are getting. That is a really short barrel especially for small bore like a 6.5. Might need to enlist the help from a handloading friend to see if you can get the velocities up.

If you want them to go down fast. Shoot more towards shoulder. That is a safe shot, but they are usually going to run a bit hit back like that.


That’s the opposite experience I’ve had with regular Accubonds. It’s very, very rare for me to not get a bloodtrail and for it to start at the shot site. That’s across several different cartridges.


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Re: Blood Trails and the 6.5 cm. (Bullet Advice) [Re: N2TRKYS] #4265013
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Originally Posted by N2TRKYS
Originally Posted by hawndog
The ablr is a pretty soft bullet. Fast expansion, moderate penetration. I have been shooting Accubond in my 30-06 for a while. It does a good job killing them, but much like your experience. There is not much exit and very little blood. Most of the deer I shot no trailing needed. But still sometimes, they are going to run, and when they do I want to be able to find it. If you want a big hole out the back go to something a bit harder. In my 30-06 I changed from 165 Accubond to 180 Fusion this year. last deer I shot looked like a seen from a horror movie. Blood everywhere. I am happy with this change so far.

Check velocity on a chrono. That is the only way to know what you are getting. That is a really short barrel especially for small bore like a 6.5. Might need to enlist the help from a handloading friend to see if you can get the velocities up.

If you want them to go down fast. Shoot more towards shoulder. That is a safe shot, but they are usually going to run a bit hit back like that.


That’s the opposite experience I’ve had with regular Accubonds. It’s very, very rare for me to not get a bloodtrail and for it to start at the shot site. That’s across several different cartridges.

Im not here to argue, just trying to understand why we are getting different results. I started off shooting 150 AB in 30-06 at a chrono of 2950. I shot them for several years, with similar results. with 15-20 deer exit the size of a dime very little blood, but also a very dead deer. I recovered several bullets, and weighed them, got 80% weight retention and about 12-14 inches of penetration. Changed to a 165 going 2900 in hopes of better performance but same result.
I shot 5 deer with 6.5 creedmore 130 grain in the Accubond LR at 2800. with similar results. It has a is faster expansion than the original AB. I have not changed bullets with that rifle, but I do not hunt with it, bought that one for my wife, but I had to test it for her lol.

Re: Blood Trails and the 6.5 cm. (Bullet Advice) [Re: hawndog] #4265035
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Originally Posted by hawndog
Originally Posted by N2TRKYS
Originally Posted by hawndog
The ablr is a pretty soft bullet. Fast expansion, moderate penetration. I have been shooting Accubond in my 30-06 for a while. It does a good job killing them, but much like your experience. There is not much exit and very little blood. Most of the deer I shot no trailing needed. But still sometimes, they are going to run, and when they do I want to be able to find it. If you want a big hole out the back go to something a bit harder. In my 30-06 I changed from 165 Accubond to 180 Fusion this year. last deer I shot looked like a seen from a horror movie. Blood everywhere. I am happy with this change so far.

Check velocity on a chrono. That is the only way to know what you are getting. That is a really short barrel especially for small bore like a 6.5. Might need to enlist the help from a handloading friend to see if you can get the velocities up.

If you want them to go down fast. Shoot more towards shoulder. That is a safe shot, but they are usually going to run a bit hit back like that.


That’s the opposite experience I’ve had with regular Accubonds. It’s very, very rare for me to not get a bloodtrail and for it to start at the shot site. That’s across several different cartridges.

Im not here to argue, just trying to understand why we are getting different results. I started off shooting 150 AB in 30-06 at a chrono of 2950. I shot them for several years, with similar results. with 15-20 deer exit the size of a dime very little blood, but also a very dead deer. I recovered several bullets, and weighed them, got 80% weight retention and about 12-14 inches of penetration. Changed to a 165 going 2900 in hopes of better performance but same result.
I shot 5 deer with 6.5 creedmore 130 grain in the Accubond LR at 2800. with similar results. It has a is faster expansion than the original AB. I have not changed bullets with that rifle, but I do not hunt with it, bought that one for my wife, but I had to test it for her lol.



That 6.5 ABLR is a 129 grain, not 130 grain. I’m not trying to argue either. I’m just saying that I’ve had different results in case folks read this researching bullets. I’ve used the regular Accubond in 25-06, 270, 30-06, 7-08, 308, 7 SAUM, 7 mag, 6.5 Creedmoor, 6.5 PRC, and hoping to use one in a 223 before the season goes out.


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Re: Blood Trails and the 6.5 cm. (Bullet Advice) [Re: BC] #4265039
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Re: Blood Trails and the 6.5 cm. (Bullet Advice) [Re: BC] #4265054
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I shoot a creedmore and both my granddaughter do also . Best advice a friend gave me was to use 140 grain federal fusion . Granddaughter made a bad gut shot and deer still dint travel 100 yards . These bullets seem to cause massive trauma just like the picture of the 30-06 in the previous post .

Re: Blood Trails and the 6.5 cm. (Bullet Advice) [Re: BC] #4265111
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I really liked the 120 grain Barnes in the 6 5


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Re: Blood Trails and the 6.5 cm. (Bullet Advice) [Re: quailman] #4265112
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Re: Blood Trails and the 6.5 cm. (Bullet Advice) [Re: quailman] #4265124
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Originally Posted by quailman
Here's an Exit hole for ya.

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Impressive. what you shooting?

Re: Blood Trails and the 6.5 cm. (Bullet Advice) [Re: Beadlescomb] #4265171
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Here's an Exit hole for ya.

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I'm disappointed that isn't a spike



I was too. Not my lucky day.


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Re: Blood Trails and the 6.5 cm. (Bullet Advice) [Re: hawndog] #4265173
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Originally Posted by hawndog
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Here's an Exit hole for ya.

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Impressive. what you shooting?



Encore 300wm. And shooting those Hornady American Whitetail that so many tell me are crap.


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Re: Blood Trails and the 6.5 cm. (Bullet Advice) [Re: BC] #4265183
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Re: Blood Trails and the 6.5 cm. (Bullet Advice) [Re: BC] #4265224
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Re: Blood Trails and the 6.5 cm. (Bullet Advice) [Re: BC] #4265247
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I wish Winchester still made the xp3. That was a bad round there!!

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I wish Winchester still made the xp3. That was a bad round there!!

I have a couple of boxes of Winchester XP3 270 Win.


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Re: Blood Trails and the 6.5 cm. (Bullet Advice) [Re: Narrow Gap] #4265257
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I wish Winchester still made the xp3. That was a bad round there!!

I have a couple of boxes of Winchester XP3 270 Win.


Oh really???? I called those Thor’s hammer! Hurt me and the deer with those 150 grain bullets, LOL

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