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Re: Tags
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I havent even hunted for myself now in three years and only tracked for folks……but if I was a hunter, club, or landowner who was abiding by the bag limits and trying to manage their property for better hunting…..I would want to know that the state was doing their part to implement a system that kept everyone around me honest too….If you’re not shooting over the limit then I don’t see the problem in wrapping a tag around it to help make enforcement easier on the GW’s
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If you do not hunt quit worrying about the regs. There. Fixed. Well it does affect me……When there is no quality to be shot at then there is no quality to be tracked…..
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I havent even hunted for myself now in three years and only tracked for folks……but if I was a hunter, club, or landowner who was abiding by the bag limits and trying to manage their property for better hunting…..I would want to know that the state was doing their part to implement a system that kept everyone around me honest too….If you’re not shooting over the limit then I don’t see the problem in wrapping a tag around it to help make enforcement easier on the GW’s I hunt 4 different properties in 3 different counties. Totaling around 4500 acres. It takes a lot of money and a lot of work to have access to that. I do not need the state telling me how many deer I can shoot. Especially when a deer that I shoot on one property has no impact on one of the others.
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I hunt 4 different properties in 3 different counties. Totaling around 4500 acres. It takes a lot of money and a lot of work to have access to that. I do not need the state telling me how many deer I can shoot. Especially when a deer that I shoot on one property has no impact on one of the others. Hunters absolutely need the DCNR regulating how many deer they can shoot because many cant do it for themselves when given the ability to bait and freely shoot……Y’all don’t realize it but its impacting some pretty significant areas where people hunt who matter…..
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is the game check system they have now not the same concept as a tag system? other than a physical tag on the deer i see a tag system accomplishing nothing more than the current game check system.. both systems make the hunters purchase the license but outlaws will always be outlaws The system we have now is too easy to beat…..Its not even keeping the honest folks honest……Wrapping that bright green tag around its rack…..or not…..is very, very noticeable to everyone……Its not something out of sight, out of mind like game check…….Hunters need three non-resuable bright green tags with their info on it to wrap around the deer’s rack as soon as they recover it……and those who don’t tag it and deer that arent tagged will stick out like a sore thumb……It will help keep the honest guys honest and that’s who is shooting the most “illegal” deer right now. This is just paying the piper for getting to bait…….
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is the game check system they have now not the same concept as a tag system? other than a physical tag on the deer i see a tag system accomplishing nothing more than the current game check system.. both systems make the hunters purchase the license but outlaws will always be outlaws The same . Only the tags will come with a fee.
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is the game check system they have now not the same concept as a tag system? other than a physical tag on the deer i see a tag system accomplishing nothing more than the current game check system.. both systems make the hunters purchase the license but outlaws will always be outlaws The same . Only the tags will come with a fee. True. Physical tags issued by a wildlife agency typically are on some kind of tough, Tyvek-type tear-free form. Those cost more money than a plain paper tag. Therefore, if a state agency sends you one of these or you get one when you buy your tag at Boogers, Booners & BBQ, it will cost you more money. Yet again, all hunters would be paying more money for something only a few want and that the DCNR obviously doesn't want or it would've done them years ago. Tags have been discussed - and dismissed - for at least 30 years, if not longer. I had these discussions with folks years ago. LIttle has changed. The EASY way to do this would be, again, to have the hunter create his or her own tag and affix it to the deer with the state-requested information. This tag could be a slip of paper in a Ziploc bag taped to an antler, or the back of a cereal box stapled to a deer's ear, or a giant Zip-tie with info written on it in Sharpie. Whatever it is, it would have to be easily visible and have the required info (whatever that might be). They do this in Ohio, or used to do it this way. It was easy as could be. Nothing to keep up with, like a tag. Info on the paper, stuffed in a Ziploc bag, taped to the antler and I was done. If a GW stopped me, he could check it. Reporting had to be done within 24 or 48 hours (can't remember). Other states have the Tyvek-type tags you poke-punch and affix before reporting. But, those Tyvek-type tags cost money. Y'all damned sure better believe they would have a "TAG FEE" and it wouldn't be for 72 cents. And as was noted earlier by abolt, go to Kansas or Iowa or Ohio or some other state and fail to tag your buck. See what the difference is between them and here with the penalties. Personally, I kind of like Idaho's deal. If you have a license, you have something like 72 hours or a week after the season ends to fill out the state "harvest" survey. If you don't do it, you get dinged and can't buy a license for the following season, or if you have a lifetime then it's invalid. Something like that. But there's no estimating kill totals or if Zone A was down compared to last year or whatever. They get the data. Some of y'all are like frogs in the pot of water, begging for another log on the fire. Always amazing to see it.
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is the game check system they have now not the same concept as a tag system? other than a physical tag on the deer i see a tag system accomplishing nothing more than the current game check system.. both systems make the hunters purchase the license but outlaws will always be outlaws The system we have now is too easy to beat…..Its not even keeping the honest folks honest……Wrapping that bright green tag around its rack…..or not…..is very, very noticeable to everyone……Its not something out of sight, out of mind like game check…….Hunters need three non-resuable bright green tags with their info on it to wrap around the deer’s rack as soon as they recover it……and those who don’t tag it and deer that arent tagged will stick out like a sore thumb……It will help keep the honest guys honest and that’s who is shooting the most “illegal” deer right now. This is just paying the piper for getting to bait……. Where I hunt, the folks hunting illegally will just shoot a deer after dark under their light in the backyard. The process the deer themselves, so your tagging idea will not stop that, and will only create more work for the honest folks. Also, I have been hunting 5 times this year, and have seen at least 2 deer every hunt. Not everywhere is doom and gloom. Maybe the hunters in your area started practicing their shooting?
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I agree with CNC - system easier to beat without tags - but doubt we ever see tags. The current system is easy to use and i like the ease of it. Lot of states use tags - doubt we ever will
We absolutely need tags w turkeys - i think we have a massive amount of cheaters! Hope it ain't like that with deer
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Easier to hide a turkey than a deer. The only difference is you can't hide the boom. Tags still wouldn't matter to the turkey outlaws, though.
And the current system is so easy to beat that anyone could do it. The DCNR is relying on the broad honesty of most hunters, which is admirable and has been done for years. But unfortunately, if they want more accurate data and numbers then they need to change their system. Because the system can be cheated quite easily.
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is the game check system they have now not the same concept as a tag system? other than a physical tag on the deer i see a tag system accomplishing nothing more than the current game check system.. both systems make the hunters purchase the license but outlaws will always be outlaws The system we have now is too easy to beat…..Its not even keeping the honest folks honest……Wrapping that bright green tag around its rack…..or not…..is very, very noticeable to everyone……Its not something out of sight, out of mind like game check…….Hunters need three non-resuable bright green tags with their info on it to wrap around the deer’s rack as soon as they recover it……and those who don’t tag it and deer that arent tagged will stick out like a sore thumb……It will help keep the honest guys honest and that’s who is shooting the most “illegal” deer right now. This is just paying the piper for getting to bait……. Most of the time An illegal kill only travels from the back of a truck / ATV to the camp / house so what good is a green tag gonna do during the same transit?
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Most of the time An illegal kill only travels from the back of a truck / ATV to the camp / house so what good is a green tag gonna do during the same transit?
It just depends on how much the green trucks ride around and how much the fine is for getting caught…..You have to at least make their be a reasonable risk of getting caught and for it to hurt enough if it happens that most folks will comply due to not wanting to "risk it"……Also, these bright green tags are supposed to be on the rack even when you do get it back to camp…..So even if you have it hung up at camp or the head in the back of your truck…..its still a liability for you if it isnt tagged……
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But unfortunately, if they want more accurate data and numbers then they need to change their system. Speaking of data, I've yet to figure out how knowing the number of dead deer will tell them how many deer are in an area. When game check was instituted, that was the reason given for it, to get an accurate count of deer numbers. I mean, if that's what they go by, then they would say the population in my area is non-existent. That's not the case though. There is a very thriving deer herd there, I just don't shoot them.
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I hunt 4 different properties in 3 different counties. Totaling around 4500 acres. It takes a lot of money and a lot of work to have access to that. I do not need the state telling me how many deer I can shoot. Especially when a deer that I shoot on one property has no impact on one of the others. Hunters absolutely need the DCNR regulating how many deer they can shoot because many cant do it for themselves when given the ability to bait and freely shoot……Y’all don’t realize it but its impacting some pretty significant areas where people hunt who matter….. No. The buck limit needs to go away. I have the property to support killing way more than 3. How does me shooting a buck in one county affect property two counties over? I'll answer: it does not. So until you want to come over and pay for my property taxes, leases and all that goes with it, you need to frak off.
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I'm old enough to remember what it was like to "just go hunting". Why people think jumping through all these hoops is better is beyond me.
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I would fully expect there to be a good many folks who are against it…….there’s likely a good many folks shooting over the limit…..At some point though you got to realize that allowing everyone to sit over a corn pile on every 10 acres and shoot as many little bucks as everyone wants to shoot is phucking it up for everyone in the area……and there are folks who matter who put a lot of money and time into their properties who are being impacted…..Matt has tried to tell you the same thing…..This is what y’all arent seeing if you think what I say here is what really matters…….. What’s occurring on these people’s properties is what matters for real, for real …This is why change will occur.....Like I said, its paying the piper for getting to bait....…Heck, I just got off the phone with someone telling me about their place that traditionally sees a lot of deer being way off from it used to be.....There's a real impact occurring in some areas
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