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Re: Tags
[Re: globe]
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01/16/25 10:20 AM
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Boxes Cove
2Dogs
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Boxes Cove
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Nothing you’ll ever do about button bucks.
People who are careful can still accidentally shoot one.
That’s a non-fixable issue. True , later in the season, that lone 1 YO doe almost always turns out to be a button buck. They are the quickest age class replaced . A button buck mistake every now and then isn't a big deal.
"Why do you ask"?
Always vote the slowest path to socialism.
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Re: Tags
[Re: hawndog]
#4266732
01/16/25 10:34 AM
01/16/25 10:34 AM
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Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 6,894
Mobile, AL
Pwyse
14 point
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14 point
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Posts: 6,894
Mobile, AL
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I guess the difference in our view boils down to this. You want to keep the little man from killing more than what the property they have can support. I want people that have the resources to be able to use them as they see fit.
Let’s say you had 10,000 acres all to yourself. That is not that far fetched. There are properties all over just like that. But according to the game laws you can still only take three deer off of it. The problem is the “as they see fit” part. Your issue about having 3 different properties in 3 different parts of the state is not the norm. And you might be responsible enough to hunt and not negatively affect the age structure but the vast majority of people are not. If you feel like more bucks NEED to be removed off those properties then let some others kill them. Same goes for your 10k acre scenario. No one NEEDS to kill more than 3 bucks themselves. I understand your frustration of not being able to take more than one buck off of each property yourself, but maybe you need to get some different hunting ground. Sublease something out and make some money off it or get creative (within the law) on how you can stay legal and still be a happy hunter.
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Re: Tags
[Re: Pwyse]
#4266742
01/16/25 10:52 AM
01/16/25 10:52 AM
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Posts: 1,847
Tuscaloosa
hawndog
8 point
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8 point
Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 1,847
Tuscaloosa
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I guess the difference in our view boils down to this. You want to keep the little man from killing more than what the property they have can support. I want people that have the resources to be able to use them as they see fit.
Let’s say you had 10,000 acres all to yourself. That is not that far fetched. There are properties all over just like that. But according to the game laws you can still only take three deer off of it. The problem is the “as they see fit” part. Your issue about having 3 different properties in 3 different parts of the state is not the norm. And you might be responsible enough to hunt and not negatively affect the age structure but the vast majority of people are not. If you feel like more bucks NEED to be removed off those properties then let some others kill them. Same goes for your 10k acre scenario. No one NEEDS to kill more than 3 bucks themselves. I understand your frustration of not being able to take more than one buck off of each property yourself, but maybe you need to get some different hunting ground. Sublease something out and make some money off it or get creative (within the law) on how you can stay legal and still be a happy hunter. No one "NEEDS' to go hunting at all.
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Re: Tags
[Re: hawndog]
#4266749
01/16/25 11:01 AM
01/16/25 11:01 AM
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Posts: 6,894
Mobile, AL
Pwyse
14 point
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14 point
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Mobile, AL
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I guess the difference in our view boils down to this. You want to keep the little man from killing more than what the property they have can support. I want people that have the resources to be able to use them as they see fit.
Let’s say you had 10,000 acres all to yourself. That is not that far fetched. There are properties all over just like that. But according to the game laws you can still only take three deer off of it. The problem is the “as they see fit” part. Your issue about having 3 different properties in 3 different parts of the state is not the norm. And you might be responsible enough to hunt and not negatively affect the age structure but the vast majority of people are not. If you feel like more bucks NEED to be removed off those properties then let some others kill them. Same goes for your 10k acre scenario. No one NEEDS to kill more than 3 bucks themselves. I understand your frustration of not being able to take more than one buck off of each property yourself, but maybe you need to get some different hunting ground. Sublease something out and make some money off it or get creative (within the law) on how you can stay legal and still be a happy hunter. No one "NEEDS' to go hunting at all. Exactly
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Re: Tags
[Re: Luxfisher]
#4266789
01/16/25 11:51 AM
01/16/25 11:51 AM
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Posts: 6,894
Mobile, AL
Pwyse
14 point
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14 point
Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 6,894
Mobile, AL
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Since state started requiring kill records the number of 4&5 year old kids killing decent bucks has really went up, I know people who claim 4 year old kids killed a deer that there is no way the kid can even hold a gun up, much less take the recoil of the 270 or 30-06 they claim to have killed it with,Get a couple of kids a conversation ID & they don't worry about limits. You can’t legislate morality.
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Re: Tags
[Re: Pwyse]
#4266823
01/16/25 12:24 PM
01/16/25 12:24 PM
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Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 917
Lamar County
Luxfisher
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6 point
Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 917
Lamar County
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Since state started requiring kill records the number of 4&5 year old kids killing decent bucks has really went up, I know people who claim 4 year old kids killed a deer that there is no way the kid can even hold a gun up, much less take the recoil of the 270 or 30-06 they claim to have killed it with,Get a couple of kids a conversation ID & they don't worry about limits. You can’t legislate morality. You are 100% correct, if people are going to find ways around rules they will no matter what you do.
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