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More Trump winning with Hamas and Israel
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01/14/25 06:49 AM
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Looks like Trumps threat "All hell will break loose if hostages are not released" is causing Hamas to agree to a ceasefire with Israel and is planning to release 30 something hostages. Deal not final but looks like it is goingto be shortly. https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/13/middleeast/israel-hamas-deal-talks-intl/index.htmlWonder if any progress with Ukraine??
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it"
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Re: More Trump winning with Hamas and Israel
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01/14/25 07:46 AM
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Biden administration will claim they succeeded on getting release but I think everyone knows Hamas knows Trump means what he says.
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Re: More Trump winning with Hamas and Israel
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01/14/25 08:22 AM
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deadeye48
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This is not as it seems Israel will have to release thousands of captured Hamas terrorists and give up the body of Sinwar Israel will have to withdraw in part from Gaza This is not a win win situation for Israel
When I need expert advice I tend to talk to myself The older I get the better I used to be
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Re: More Trump winning with Hamas and Israel
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01/14/25 08:29 AM
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This is not as it seems Israel will have to release thousands of captured Hamas terrorists and give up the body of Sinwar Israel will have to withdraw in part from Gaza This is not a win win situation for Israel Correct, this is a win/meh deal for Israel. The folks they release will have to be installed with beeper bombs under their rib cages, and thats a lot of work. But when they go back their people. Israel can get back to work doing what they are doing now. So, meh.
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Re: More Trump winning with Hamas and Israel
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01/14/25 09:02 AM
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If they can get the remaining hostages, then Netanyahu will have appeased those within Israel who are opposing this war. That will buy him goodwill with the Israeli people, and with Trump. Then he can finish Hamas and go after Iran. Israel won't sign a bad deal and a ceasefire isn't a permanent peace plan.
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Re: More Trump winning with Hamas and Israel
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01/14/25 01:40 PM
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Biden administration will claim they succeeded on getting release but I think everyone knows Hamas knows Trump means what he says. Just like that clown Carter did with Regan. They did not release the hostages because of his bumbling, for several years. They did on the last night of Carters watch, because Regan was going to pound them into oblivion, on the first day of his.
Last edited by gwstang; 01/14/25 01:41 PM.
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Re: More Trump winning with Hamas and Israel
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01/15/25 12:07 PM
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Israel and Hamas reach ceasefire deal!!
23 hostages that are alive and maybe some bodies are part of the deal. Apparently released in phases.
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it"
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Re: More Trump winning with Hamas and Israel
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01/15/25 12:19 PM
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Might upset yall but let's give the muzzys a probationary state recognized all that jazz with the clear understanding the next attack anywhere in the globe turns Gaza into that place that used to be known as Gaza until the Americans brought the pain. Then follow Al Jazeera around and hunt them Sobs down cut their heads off and put on a stick. Can't negotiate with terrorists but you can shoot them lots.
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Re: More Trump winning with Hamas and Israel
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01/15/25 12:25 PM
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Unfortunately sounds like Israel is having to give up a bunch of Hamas prisoners They'll probably put trackers in them and then will simply hunt them down and kill them and those hanging around with them, later. It's hard to get them executed once they are actually declared prisoners. Some stupid people at a convention in Geneva felt it was wrong. Just makes it easier for Israel, in the long run, to get rid of them permanently.
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Re: More Trump winning with Hamas and Israel
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01/15/25 12:29 PM
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You can be certain each Hamas that Israel releases will be tracked in one way or another. They know it to, so for a lot of those Hamas guys, they might be better off in an Israeli prison. When they go back, they may really get their heads cut open to find the tracking tech. The Beeper Bombs changed a lot of things.
"Never Trust Government" -- Smart people. "The Great thing we should Fear and the Weird Thing we Trust is Elon Musk" -- Me "You can be broke but you cant be poor." -- Ruthie-May Webster
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Re: More Trump winning with Hamas and Israel
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01/15/25 03:49 PM
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This is not as it seems Israel will have to release thousands of captured Hamas terrorists and give up the body of Sinwar Israel will have to withdraw in part from Gaza This is not a win win situation for Israel Exactly why it’s a Biden cease fire NOT Trump winning! IMHO FJB!!
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Re: More Trump winning with Hamas and Israel
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01/15/25 04:33 PM
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Good lord guys. Biden done this TO ISRAEL NOT FOR ISRAEL Israel can wait a week and get it handled properly. If they want to.. Honestly, I was kinda hoping they'd not release them. We'd go in, scrape their arses into the ocean and decapitate Iran in the process.
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Re: More Trump winning with Hamas and Israel
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01/15/25 07:03 PM
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Trump demanding that Israel and Hamas get on with it, right away with no hesitation, before inauguration, and Hamas doing it, is a really big show of strength over Biden. I am certain it made Vlad and Xi sit up, the twerp Z probably had to get a new colon cause he sh1t himself inside out. Then Trump essentially in the Trump special way claimed a country and knocked out a half dozen country leaders, in one week, before he's back. All of this is about Trump re-establishing sensible or what should be an agreeable World order everywhere.
"Never Trust Government" -- Smart people. "The Great thing we should Fear and the Weird Thing we Trust is Elon Musk" -- Me "You can be broke but you cant be poor." -- Ruthie-May Webster
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Re: More Trump winning with Hamas and Israel
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01/15/25 08:37 PM
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It is delusional to think Ragheads and Fake Jews can coexist peacefully. Folks can believe whatever propaganda they choose. Define "fake Jews" , please.
"Why do you ask"?
Always vote the slowest path to socialism.
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