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Re: Turkish made firearms. [Re: trlrdrdave] #4278067
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I have a couple of Turkish OU shotguns that I have had zero issues with.

The Panzer M4 is made in Turkey. It is a Benelli M4 clone, Benelli’s patent expired and a few companies are now making clones, HOWEVER, they are all junk EXCEPT the Panzer M4 clone, it is touted by some reviewers as “better than the Benelli M4”, and the parts are actually interchangeable with Benelli OEM parts. It has has price tag of $650.00 or so (I’m referring to the Panzer M4 Speed Pro) while the Benelli M4 has a price tag of $2,000+.

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I've bought 4 Yildiz so far. One had to go back for barrel regulation. One was missing a trigger pivot pin. Being able to get regulation fixed is a big advantage over a B gun for turkey work. Warranty work is done by Briley. You just drop them off and pick them up at Academy.

You can tell it's a cheaper made gun just looking at internals. The choke tubes look like trash compared to a Benelli Crio, for example.

Some people claim high round counts, which sounds odd considering how light they are. Some claim broken firing pins. Never heard of anyone wearing one out otherwise. It's not an issue with a turkey gun.

I would like a Stevens 555 28 gauge. They're made on a baby frame whereas Yildiz doesn't sell a 28ga on a baby frame here; only .410. Yildiz makes 28ga baby frames. Academy does not sell them.

Baby frame 28ga are not common. I talked to Stevens directly. At the time they didn't understand barrel regulation at all. So, there was no fixing barrels under warranty. They''d just tell you it needs to be fitted to you, which is ignorant hogwash.

One thing you'll get on a Turkish gun you won't otherwise is a twisted stock. American guns nowadays are made neutral or close to. If you buy a B gun you still need to have the stock twisted or modified to get it to fit. WIth Turkish guns if you want a neutral stock you may be out of luck.

Speaking of, I also have the CZ Bobwhite Southpaw. Fits great. Only complaint so far is a spot of rust in one of the chambers. Makes me wonder about the steel quality, but Corrosion X works. So. It's my quail and woodcock piece. It won't see a high round count, neither.

All in all, my opinion is they're useful field guns. They sometimes make something you can't easily get from the usual sources.

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