I don’t get the idea that folks throw out when they say “I don’t need the state telling me how many deer to shoot!!”…..

Yes you do……That is the very reason we have a DCNR that sets season dates and bag limits……because the public needs someone to set those limits for them……If you think you have the right to decide how many deer you should be able to shoot then why don’t you have the same right to deer hunt any month of the year you choose as well?.....

I don’t get the idea that folks throw out when they say “I don’t need the state telling me how many deer to shoot!!”…..

You might think that by but you'd be wrong. The reason the Midwest has bigger deer is agriculture and very limited gun seasons.

Lots of Alabama hunters think if they could just get government to stop their neighbors from killing young bucks they'd have big bucks running everywhere. The truth is most of those same folks complaining aren't willing to give up their 3 month gun season in exchange for more mature bucks. There is a misconception that Midwest folks have more restraint but I have read numerous studies that indicate the average buck killed in Illinois is a 2 year old 100" deer. Human nature doesn't change by geography. They slaughter the young ones too but they have a shorter window to do it with a gun. If you wanna see more big deer lobby for a 1 or 2 week gun season that falls outside the rut. I bet that dog won't hunt with most of the whiners and complainers.

Who said that? I said I don't need the state to tell my neighbors what size buck to shoot or how old they have to be.

The state can manage for any end goal they choose and if they choose to manage for better age structure then they have every right to tell your neighbor which bucks they can shoot……I don’t think that everyone should be allowed to run a muck doing as you please to the point that no one else is able to manage for anything other than mediocre…..This isnt Texas……Neighbors matter and they have an impact on everyone around them…..They shouldn’t just get to “do as they please” with the deer herd just because they leased a few acres to hunt

Nah, the state owns nothing. The tax payers do. You might like and need more government restrictions to kill the kind of deer you want but I don't.

just a few years ago yall bitch about not hunting the rut , they extended the season now yall bitch about it being to long . yall bitch about corn not being legal so they changed it now yall bitch that ever body with a acre of land is baiting . yall was fine with the game check that really does nothing but count dead deer but now you want tags that will do the same thing but cost each hunter more .


tell you what go by the deer processer near you and just ask ,,,, you getting in any good deer in ? when he say yeah ,,,,, think about it . maybe just maybe you need to learn how to hunt .

yall doing the same thing to turkey hunting .

Big fat no to everything you just said. I fought for no extension in areas where current season framework allowed hunting the rut, was not in favor of bait, was not in favor of how GC was rolled out or how it’s being used, and you can’t kill what don’t exist. Me personally, don’t have a problem killing mature bucks, but there’s a lot of ppl who are having trouble for no reason other than over harvest of middle aged deer. Add the threat of CWD to the mix and the days of having older deer to hunt are done if nothing changes.

Now, you visit a taxidermist in your area and you’ll see a pile of decent deer in the 3-4 age class, but the 5+ yo bucks are not nearly as common as they were when harvest was random.

Who is yall? You can’t just blanket cover all hunters under one umbrella. Having concerns over population management is the only reason we have anything today. Hunters are the ones who petitioned for change to promote thriving wildlife populations for future hunting opportunities.

just a few years ago yall bitch about not hunting the rut , they extended the season now yall bitch about it being to long . yall bitch about corn not being legal so they changed it now yall bitch that ever body with a acre of land is baiting . yall was fine with the game check that really does nothing but count dead deer but now you want tags that will do the same thing but cost each hunter more .


tell you what go by the deer processer near you and just ask ,,,, you getting in any good deer in ? when he say yeah ,,,,, think about it . maybe just maybe you need to learn how to hunt .