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Re: Whitetail deer home range…
[Re: Boathand]
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01/20/25 09:05 PM
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Frankie
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Why is the state not doing anything meaningful to curb the population explosion of coyotes in Alabama? Why should it be that states problem ? Buy a caller or a couple traps and kill ever one you see .
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Re: Whitetail deer home range…
[Re: Boathand]
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01/20/25 09:06 PM
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Mbrock
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Why is the state not doing anything meaningful to curb the population explosion of coyotes in Alabama? What are they supposed to do? There’s already no closed season and night hunting permits. Bounties don’t work and never will. You’ve got to have large scale buy in on a level we will never see to make any difference in coyote populations. They’re here now. The best deterrent to fawn depredation is improving habitat and adjusting harvest accordingly. Studies on coyotes have been very eye opening to me. Recreational hunting/trapping is not a long term solution. Habitat improvements are.
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Re: Whitetail deer home range…
[Re: Mbrock]
#4270258
01/20/25 09:08 PM
01/20/25 09:08 PM
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Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 6,518 Mobile, AL
Pwyse
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Why is the state not doing anything meaningful to curb the population explosion of coyotes in Alabama? What are they supposed to do? There’s already no closed season and night hunting permits. Bounties don’t work and never will. You’ve got to have large scale buy in on a level we will never see to make any difference in coyote populations. They’re here now. The best deterrent to fawn depredation is improving habitat and adjusting harvest accordingly. Studies on coyotes have been very eye opening to me. Recreational hunting/trapping is not a long term solution. Habitat improvements are. What about trapping them hard right before fawning season on a property? Create a void while they are most vulnerable? Is this worth doing or should we just shoot fewer does?
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Re: Whitetail deer home range…
[Re: Mbrock]
#4270267
01/20/25 09:13 PM
01/20/25 09:13 PM
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Joined: Apr 2000
Posts: 18,036 Elmore County
Frankie
Old Mossy Horns
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Old Mossy Horns
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Why is the state not doing anything meaningful to curb the population explosion of coyotes in Alabama? What are they supposed to do? There’s already no closed season and night hunting permits. Bounties don’t work and never will. You’ve got to have large scale buy in on a level we will never see to make any difference in coyote populations. They’re here now. The best deterrent to fawn depredation is improving habitat and adjusting harvest accordingly. Studies on coyotes have been very eye opening to me. Recreational hunting/trapping is not a long term solution. Habitat improvements are. Yeah , cover in one of the main 3 things they need
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Re: Whitetail deer home range…
[Re: Pwyse]
#4270270
01/20/25 09:15 PM
01/20/25 09:15 PM
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Mbrock
Fancy
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Fancy
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Why is the state not doing anything meaningful to curb the population explosion of coyotes in Alabama? What are they supposed to do? There’s already no closed season and night hunting permits. Bounties don’t work and never will. You’ve got to have large scale buy in on a level we will never see to make any difference in coyote populations. They’re here now. The best deterrent to fawn depredation is improving habitat and adjusting harvest accordingly. Studies on coyotes have been very eye opening to me. Recreational hunting/trapping is not a long term solution. Habitat improvements are. What about trapping them hard right before fawning season on a property? Create a void while they are most vulnerable? Is this worth doing or should we just shoot fewer does? Yes that is the recommended practice at the moment. The voids are quickly filled by transients though. Long term studies concluded after 2-3 years of trapping that fawn recruitment rates were right back where they started before trapping was initiated. There’s no shortage of homeless coyotes looking to fill a void when you make one. I’m not suggesting that trapping is entirely ineffective. It’s really a cost/benefits analysis on whether saving a couple of fawns is worth the effort. We do very little to no coyote control on several properties and have high recruitment rates, but habitat condition is superb. That’s the most important factor.
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Re: Whitetail deer home range…
[Re: Pwyse]
#4270275
01/20/25 09:18 PM
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Joined: Apr 2000
Posts: 18,036 Elmore County
Frankie
Old Mossy Horns
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Old Mossy Horns
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Posts: 18,036
Elmore County
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Why is the state not doing anything meaningful to curb the population explosion of coyotes in Alabama? What are they supposed to do? There’s already no closed season and night hunting permits. Bounties don’t work and never will. You’ve got to have large scale buy in on a level we will never see to make any difference in coyote populations. They’re here now. The best deterrent to fawn depredation is improving habitat and adjusting harvest accordingly. Studies on coyotes have been very eye opening to me. Recreational hunting/trapping is not a long term solution. Habitat improvements are. What about trapping them hard right before fawning season on a property? Create a void while they are most vulnerable? Is this worth doing or should we just shoot fewer does? I kill ever one I see . It ain't there it ain't eating . Of course over time another one will move in but the one you killed ain't there. That new coyotes has to find his way around too .
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Re: Whitetail deer home range…
[Re: Mbrock]
#4270278
01/20/25 09:19 PM
01/20/25 09:19 PM
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Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 6,518 Mobile, AL
Pwyse
14 point
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14 point
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Why is the state not doing anything meaningful to curb the population explosion of coyotes in Alabama? What are they supposed to do? There’s already no closed season and night hunting permits. Bounties don’t work and never will. You’ve got to have large scale buy in on a level we will never see to make any difference in coyote populations. They’re here now. The best deterrent to fawn depredation is improving habitat and adjusting harvest accordingly. Studies on coyotes have been very eye opening to me. Recreational hunting/trapping is not a long term solution. Habitat improvements are. What about trapping them hard right before fawning season on a property? Create a void while they are most vulnerable? Is this worth doing or should we just shoot fewer does? Yes that is the recommended practice at the moment. The voids are quickly filled by transients though. Long term studies concluded after 2-3 years of trapping that fawn recruitment rates were right back where they started before trapping was initiated. There’s no shortage of homeless coyotes looking to fill a void when you make one. I’m not suggesting that trapping is entirely ineffective. It’s really a cost/benefits analysis on whether saving a couple of fawns is worth the effort. We do very little to no coyote control on several properties and have high recruitment rates, but habitat condition is superb. That’s the most important factor. Yeah we have a timber lease so we can’t manipulate habitat much.
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Re: Whitetail deer home range…
[Re: Frankie]
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01/20/25 09:38 PM
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Mbrock
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Fancy
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Imo , one thing about good cover it gives coyotes more food resources. All a coyote wants is a full belly . Great bedding cover increases small rodents, reptiles and rabbits, which coyotes will readily rely on instead of fawns. Once a fawn is a couple of weeks old they’re hard to capture if healthy. Also hard to detect in good cover.
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Re: Whitetail deer home range…
[Re: Boathand]
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01/20/25 10:27 PM
01/20/25 10:27 PM
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Posts: 10,234 blount county alabama
imadeerhntr
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Booner
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Why is the state not doing anything meaningful to curb the population explosion of coyotes in Alabama? They are. Have a cash cow in the night time hunting license. They don’t want coyotes going anywhere just like corn
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