Originally Posted by cartervj
Originally Posted by Frankie
Matt , I know this , back when they were saying the ratio was 1 to 10 or 1 to 15 I saw a hell of a lot of big bucks killed. I'm talking bucks that dressed out 160 to 180 a few over that now most think that's big for live weight . Sorry I just fallow the 1 to 1 or the 1 to 2 thing . Now if bucks are so stressed out by having so many does why was the past so great .


Funny back when they started QDM I never heard a thing about stress it was better rut , better rut , more intense rut , shorter rut period.


By no means am I implying the bucks aint stressed . I just dont understand whats the difference from what is to what was .



Stress was definitely mentioned a lot. Rutting is stressful on a buck. I wonder what percentage die for the stress of rutting

Marty Stouffer had a series about a buck that died immediately after breeding took its toll



Here's the problems she baseing that on one deer . Each year around the places i hunted the bucks had recovered good . Even killed late in the season they a had lot of fat on them . All my years of hunting I can count the poor or sick deer on one hand . I've only pick up two racks that i dont know why they died .


Even on here you see just a couple here and there of racks found in the woods . Sorry I just go with this about stress killing all these deer from over breeding

Matt gave me a good reply and info but I fully dont agree with it . From what I've seen dont make me right either .