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Re: Browning Can't Build and Sell an Inertia 20 Gauge
[Re: cartervj]
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01/24/25 09:16 AM
01/24/25 09:16 AM
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Take that money you can't spend on a new A5 and get an OG A5. That really is good advice. I've watched several in excellent condition on GunBroker. A pre-1976 Belgian A5 20 will sell for $2,500+ in really good condition, and a post-1976 Japanese/Miroku in the same condition will go for $2,100 or so. Add to that Alabama sales tax, seller shipping fees, and FFL transfer fee. A fellow could have nearly $3,000 invested in a 20 gauge. It's a lot of money for an old gun, but those OG A5 shotguns are far better made with hand-fitted machined steel parts than any modern gun. I’m not real fond of the old cler clunk cycling but that are reliable. I’d guess once sued to that cycling it’d make a good one but using wooden gun in the mud and water is rough on the wood. I’m trying to figure out if they’re having the same issues they did with the new A5 inertia 13 gauge. They had to replace the bolt heads on some and I’m not sure they figured out exactly what the problem was. The old A5's are like tractors. A little rough to drive but they always get the job done. AND they are still running a hundred years later.
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Re: Browning Can't Build and Sell an Inertia 20 Gauge
[Re: wew3006]
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01/25/25 09:55 AM
01/25/25 09:55 AM
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Marion County, Alabama
Vernon Tull
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You're exactly right. The BPS had a loyal following, but sales must have really declined in the last ten years. The BPS ran from 1977 to early 2020s sometime. I don't hear a lot of young guys talking with excitement about pump shotguns like I did in the 1980s during my high school days. The bottom load / bottom eject design was always a little strange to me when I owned one, but it worked just fine. I sold mine to my nephew who has killed a truckload of doves with it since. He loves it.
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Re: Browning Can't Build and Sell an Inertia 20 Gauge
[Re: Vernon Tull]
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01/25/25 10:28 AM
01/25/25 10:28 AM
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You're exactly right. The BPS had a loyal following, but sales must have really declined in the last ten years. The BPS ran from 1977 to early 2020s sometime. I don't hear a lot of young guys talking with excitement about pump shotguns like I did in the 1980s during my high school days. The bottom load / bottom eject design was always a little strange to me when I owned one, but it worked just fine. I sold mine to my nephew who has killed a truckload of doves with it since. He loves it. I have a 16 gauge Upland Special I found recently in mint condition. Look forward to shooting it. I grew up on a Ithaca M37 and still turkey hunt with a Turkeyslayer model.
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Re: Browning Can't Build and Sell an Inertia 20 Gauge
[Re: AlabamaSwamper]
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01/27/25 11:59 PM
01/27/25 11:59 PM
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Yeah, the Silver is a better gun than the New A5 in any gauge by a mile. Even those 20s are hard to find. Theres 2 on the shelf right up the road from you north.
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Re: Browning Can't Build and Sell an Inertia 20 Gauge
[Re: Vernon Tull]
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01/28/25 11:36 AM
01/28/25 11:36 AM
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Marion County, Alabama
Vernon Tull
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Browning sends these impossibly young, ill-informed reps to the SHOT show, and I appreciate Randy Wakeman educating them on their own product. I would have bet money on that happening. I knew before the video interview even started that Mr. W would know more about the mythical, still-unavailable A5 20 than the Browning rep whose eye was twitching as he strained to say the Hunter 20 is . . . ahem . . . "shipping now." Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dKMv9vegOw
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Re: Browning Can't Build and Sell an Inertia 20 Gauge
[Re: Vernon Tull]
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01/28/25 03:47 PM
01/28/25 03:47 PM
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Pike Road Al
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Browning sends these impossibly young, ill-informed reps to the SHOT show, and I appreciate Randy Wakeman educating them on their own product. I would have bet money on that happening. I knew before the video interview even started that Mr. W would know more about the mythical, still-unavailable A5 20 than the Browning rep whose eye was twitching as he strained to say the Hunter 20 is . . . ahem . . . "shipping now." Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dKMv9vegOwHe just asked the wrong rep; I walked by at 1:25 I could have jumped in and saved him. lol
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Re: Browning Can't Build and Sell an Inertia 20 Gauge
[Re: Vernon Tull]
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02/03/25 06:35 PM
02/03/25 06:35 PM
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ranburne,al
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You own 3 or have 3 to sell?
Jesus died for you,what are you doing for him?
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Re: Browning Can't Build and Sell an Inertia 20 Gauge
[Re: Vernon Tull]
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02/04/25 08:56 AM
02/04/25 08:56 AM
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Posts: 12,592
Kennedy, al
globe
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I love brownings, always been a browning man, but the price/value is not there.
“Turkish walnut” like on every Turkish shotgun that’s flooding the market now.
There’s a LOT of options with shotguns today, very much like pistols.
Everything woke turns to shucks
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Re: Browning Can't Build and Sell an Inertia 20 Gauge
[Re: globe]
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02/04/25 07:28 PM
02/04/25 07:28 PM
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Posts: 2,891
Marion County, Alabama
Vernon Tull
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I love brownings, always been a browning man, but the price/value is not there.
“Turkish walnut” like on every Turkish shotgun that’s flooding the market now.
There’s a LOT of options with shotguns today, very much like pistols.
I agree: I'm not sure if Turkish walnut is a good thing or not. For a long time, the rich, beautiful walnut that was polished to a high gloss on Brownings was called French walnut. During their better quality years, Remington used American black walnut. I wish someone here on ALDEER who knows wood better than I could tell us if all this is just marketing hype or if there's a difference between walnuts.
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