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Re: Was legalizing baiting a good idea or not?
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01/25/25 02:25 PM
01/25/25 02:25 PM
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T-hatchie
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You’re damn right it’s true. Insurance companies in general try their hardest to push for extended seasons and liberal limits. Deer collisions total over 1 billion yearly in this country. I used to work in that industry, its definitely a big concern for the bottom line. Alfa lobby tells the political folks what to do including the the dept of conservation. They want every deer dead. They have controlled policy on deer hunting for years. That’s why the season is so long. Ive always heard that but is it actually true???? Any documentation to prove it??? Bottom line would be impacted at most during a single policy cycle before actuaries re-determine rates at annual review. I still work in the industry.
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Re: Was legalizing baiting a good idea or not?
[Re: T-hatchie]
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01/25/25 02:46 PM
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You’re damn right it’s true. Insurance companies in general try their hardest to push for extended seasons and liberal limits. Deer collisions total over 1 billion yearly in this country. I used to work in that industry, its definitely a big concern for the bottom line. Alfa lobby tells the political folks what to do including the the dept of conservation. They want every deer dead. They have controlled policy on deer hunting for years. That’s why the season is so long. Ive always heard that but is it actually true???? Any documentation to prove it??? Bottom line would be impacted at most during a single policy cycle before actuaries re-determine rates at annual review. I still work in the industry. And BULLCHIT Alabama farmers association has had plenty to do with deer hunting in Alabama in the past. And Y'all keep saying beetlejuice and the resident ALFA agent will show up to tell ya they don't (but done proved him wrong by his own post lmao) 🤣 Heck are you an ALFA Agent Sir?
Do not regret growing older, it's a privilege denied to many!
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Re: Was legalizing baiting a good idea or not?
[Re: Sasquatch Lives]
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01/25/25 02:51 PM
01/25/25 02:51 PM
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I’m not an agent. I’m an actuary who develops product rates and used to perform insurance department rate audits
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Re: Was legalizing baiting a good idea or not?
[Re: T-hatchie]
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01/25/25 03:17 PM
01/25/25 03:17 PM
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James
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I’m not an agent. I’m an actuary who develops product rates and used to perform insurance department rate audits I gotcha 👍🏽 Was actually funny story what i was referring too though 🙂
Do not regret growing older, it's a privilege denied to many!
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Re: Was legalizing baiting a good idea or not?
[Re: James]
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01/25/25 03:58 PM
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I’m not an agent. I’m an actuary who develops product rates and used to perform insurance department rate audits I gotcha 👍🏽 Was actually funny story what i was referring too though 🙂 No worries, and I wasn’t at all trying to be confrontational with aldeer royalty!
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Re: Was legalizing baiting a good idea or not?
[Re: Sasquatch Lives]
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01/25/25 03:59 PM
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Re: Was legalizing baiting a good idea or not?
[Re: T-hatchie]
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01/25/25 04:11 PM
01/25/25 04:11 PM
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James
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I’m not an agent. I’m an actuary who develops product rates and used to perform insurance department rate audits I gotcha 👍🏽 Was actually funny story what i was referring too though 🙂 No worries, and I wasn’t at all trying to be confrontational with aldeer royalty! No you Good! Don't nobody like me on here anyways 🤣
Do not regret growing older, it's a privilege denied to many!
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Re: Was legalizing baiting a good idea or not?
[Re: James]
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01/25/25 04:39 PM
01/25/25 04:39 PM
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Frankie
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I’m not an agent. I’m an actuary who develops product rates and used to perform insurance department rate audits I gotcha 👍🏽 Was actually funny story what i was referring too though 🙂 No worries, and I wasn’t at all trying to be confrontational with aldeer royalty! No you Good! Don't nobody like me on here anyways 🤣 Wait,, I hold that spot lol
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Re: Was legalizing baiting a good idea or not?
[Re: Bankheadhunter]
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01/25/25 05:11 PM
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How much revenue does Alfa Insurance generate? As of October 2024, Alfa Insurance's annual revenue reached $5B.
That's off Google. I'd say that they probably have a input on things. NAIC consumer search will give you publicly reported gross premium written and net income realized. And to clarify, WK2hnt is surely right about the farmer interest in regulation, I’m just saying the pure insurance side of carrier operations is agnostic about deer numbers and seasons.
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Re: Was legalizing baiting a good idea or not?
[Re: T-hatchie]
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01/25/25 05:23 PM
01/25/25 05:23 PM
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CNC
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How much revenue does Alfa Insurance generate? As of October 2024, Alfa Insurance's annual revenue reached $5B.
That's off Google. I'd say that they probably have a input on things. NAIC consumer search will give you publicly reported gross premium written and net income realized. And to clarify, WK2hnt is surely right about the farmer interest in regulation, I’m just saying the pure insurance side of carrier operations is agnostic about deer numbers and seasons. So right now we kill over 100K does per season…….You’re telling me that if we hypothetically just stopped shooting does tomorrow and in a few years populations grow and those 100K does started getting killed in the highway instead……You’re telling me that this doesn’t matter to the insurance company???.....How much is the average insurance claim on an auto-deer collision……$10,000 ????......That would equate to a billion dollars……I just have a hard time wrapping my head around that being a non-issue for them to concern themselves with
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We dont rent pigs
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Re: Was legalizing baiting a good idea or not?
[Re: CNC]
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01/25/25 05:36 PM
01/25/25 05:36 PM
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How much revenue does Alfa Insurance generate? As of October 2024, Alfa Insurance's annual revenue reached $5B.
That's off Google. I'd say that they probably have a input on things. NAIC consumer search will give you publicly reported gross premium written and net income realized. And to clarify, WK2hnt is surely right about the farmer interest in regulation, I’m just saying the pure insurance side of carrier operations is agnostic about deer numbers and seasons. So right now we kill over 100K does per season…….You’re telling me that if we hypothetically just stopped shooting does tomorrow and in a few years populations grow and those 100K does started getting killed in the highway instead……You’re telling me that this doesn’t matter to the insurance company???.....How much is the average insurance claim on an auto-deer collision……$10,000 ????......That would equate to a billion dollars……I just have a hard time wrapping my head around that being a non-issue for them to concern themselves with No. They simply raise your rates to maintain margin. And on and on. Your example isn’t wrong, it just assumes they are working with a finite purse.
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Re: Was legalizing baiting a good idea or not?
[Re: Sasquatch Lives]
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01/25/25 06:00 PM
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CNC
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I’m not completely buying it……I mean I hear what you’re saying but let that scenario actually play out and SOMEONE is going to start hollering foul at a certain point……If premiums start sky rocketing to pay for a billion dollars of deer damage then that’s going to cause an issue of some kind……Maybe it jacks rates up to a point that a bunch folks start dropping full coverage or something......or dropping coverage all together and risking not having any....The company has to have some kind of incentive to keep prices to an affordable rate
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We dont rent pigs
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Re: Was legalizing baiting a good idea or not?
[Re: wk2hnt]
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01/25/25 06:42 PM
01/25/25 06:42 PM
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Alfa lobby tells the political folks what to do including the the dept of conservation. They want every deer dead. They have controlled policy on deer hunting for years. That’s why the season is so long. Horse. Schitt
Dying ain't much of a living boy...Josey Wales
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Re: Was legalizing baiting a good idea or not?
[Re: Sasquatch Lives]
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01/25/25 08:14 PM
01/25/25 08:14 PM
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cartervj
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Exactly
How many people on here wanted baiting to be legalized
A damn big bunch did!!!!!!
I argued against it along with others.
Now it’s others fault and not the hunters jumping up and down wanting it!!!!!!!!
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