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Re: Grubb as offensive coordinator
[Re: Bronco 74]
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02/04/25 03:40 PM
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Tried the NFL. Back to where he belongs Seems like that worked out for Bama in the past?
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Re: Grubb as offensive coordinator
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02/04/25 04:26 PM
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It’s kind of telling that this guy is your only cheerleader. Again…… this guy is a bad QB. Holds on to the ball too long, won’t throw it away when needed and takes bad sacks. Keep him in the pocket and he’s worthless. Alabama didn’t have the best O Line by any stretch but to blame Milroe’s struggles solely on them is asinine. The guy had 5 INT’s, 7 fumbles, and was sacked 7 times in his last three games. The only game out of those three that he won he ran for 104 yards and 3 TD’s.
"Some men are mere hunters; others are turkey hunters."
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Re: Grubb as offensive coordinator
[Re: geeb1]
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02/04/25 04:35 PM
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You know we can just end this entire Milroe thread if Pwyse and CNC will just admit that they were both bad wrong and that he really was not a very good or successful QB, he hasnt improved or developed any at all in 2 years, and that he was a major problem with the success or lack thereof of the Bama offense. Looking at the past 3 years, it looks like Bill Obrien and Abolt both called this one really early out of the gate. I actually kind of wish that it was still Rees calling the plays next year. That way when the offense looks better next year, with a different QB working with almost all of the same returning personnel, the two of you cannot start using the OC as y'alls newest excuse for Milroe. With you two, it's always gotta be something other than the fact that he just is not a very good QB. It's the center, it's the o-line, RBs not good enough to carry the ball so Milroe has to try to do it all himself, the OC is a terrible play caller, he couldnt see those open WRs because he was still frazzled because was harassed on the previous play before, and on and on. It's always someone else's fault other than the Milroid's.
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Re: Grubb as offensive coordinator
[Re: geeb1]
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02/04/25 05:38 PM
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You're a democrat CNC. You've really got that deflection move, and the only relaying the part of the story that fits your narrative, down pat.
He was at Alabama for 4 full yrs. Redshirted one, so yes he had a year of eligibility left, but his draft stock, as well as the heisman hype, had already started to head south around game 6 or 7 this past season. He will not go in the first round. Second is most likely where he'll go, if the Giants take him, but that will most likely work out terrible for him because based on what I am reading, he'll be forced into service very early which will not be good for him and his longevity in the league. He's, at best, a work in progress and his best hope is to get with a team that will give him years to develop in the program before having to take the reins. He is absolutely not NFL ready at this point, as a passer. Id' be almost willing to bet that his decision to declare was helped by the fact that he had most likely also been told by Deboer and staff, in his after season interview, that they were probably moving in another direction at QB next year. That left him with just two choices, transfer somewhere else where he most likely would not have the same caliber of supporting staff that he had at Bama, that saved his butt many many times with miraculous catches and plays on a lot of questionable throws. Or if he transferred and had another year next year, like he did this year, he might not get drafted at all. So his best option is to declare for the draft and go pro now, while there is still enough mystery about his play and freak athleticism, that a few NFL teams are still willing to think about rolling the dice on the chance that he can be developed into something. He supposedly looked really bad at the Sr. Bowl. Bad enough that the teams that were interested are now looking elsewhere? Overall it is a super weak QB class coming out so who knows, but it doesnt sound like it was pretty or that he helped himself in any way going to Mobile. It's a good thing that he won those multiple Nattys and heisman trophies you've been crowing about and promising/predicting since 2022. If not for all that, he'd be nothing but an after thought in the Alabama books. How many of each did he win CNC? I seem to be having trouble remembering.
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Re: Grubb as offensive coordinator
[Re: geeb1]
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02/04/25 06:35 PM
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Look guys I never said he was the second coming of black Jesus that will win two nattys and a heisman. I said he was somewhere in between what Abolt and some of you say he is and what CNC says he is. And all I’ve continued to say is that he is getting pegged as the reason Bama was sub par this year offensively and that isn’t correct. Is he perfect? No. His biggest problem is that when he is pressured, he doesn’t make great decisions. He got pressured a bunch. He was sacked a TON. Could you imagine trying to read and react with that offensive line? After awhile he was hyper sensitive to the pressure. That’s a typical symptom of getting sacked a lot.
I don’t think he was an incredible QB. I thought he was really good. Heck after beating GA they were talking about him being the second QB in the draft. Horrible QBs don’t get that said about them.
Someone talked about how he couldn’t read a zone read run. Are you serious? Did you even see who usually tackled him on the unsuccessful zone reads? 90% of the time it wasn’t the read man. It was a stunting opposite side line backer, that the offensive line couldn’t get to because either they weren’t quick enough or they were having to help. Watch the run plays and see how many times they had leverage and still a man goes unblocked and either makes the tackle or the RB made him miss. It was a TON.
I will come back and say I am wrong if the oline plays just as bad next year and whoever is QB has a stellar year.
Edited to say he isn’t a freak athlete either. He just runs really well for a QB.
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Re: Grubb as offensive coordinator
[Re: geeb1]
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02/04/25 07:16 PM
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Coach KD missed out by hiring Grubbs instead of one our resident experts  RTR - I can’t wait for the spring game and a glimpse of the new look Tide
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Re: Grubb as offensive coordinator
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02/04/25 07:19 PM
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Coach KD missed out by hiring Grubbs instead of one our resident experts  RTR - I can’t wait for the spring game and a glimpse of the new look Tide Hopefully it will be a new look in the fall.
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Re: Grubb as offensive coordinator
[Re: geeb1]
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02/04/25 11:54 PM
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^^ Yea - all the experts for bama and au are right up in here and not tuscaloosa and auburn 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Hunt the wind - leave it better than you found it - love your neighbor as you love your self We need prayer for our country now more than ever
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Re: Grubb as offensive coordinator
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02/05/25 06:53 AM
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^^ Yea - all the experts for bama and au are right up in here and not tuscaloosa and auburn 🤣🤣🤣🤣 I’m not an expert, but I do watch the games. I think a lot of people that comment here do not.
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Re: Grubb as offensive coordinator
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02/05/25 09:49 AM
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It was not meant for any one person - more of a joke - i threw myself in on the group
Hunt the wind - leave it better than you found it - love your neighbor as you love your self We need prayer for our country now more than ever
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Re: Grubb as offensive coordinator
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02/05/25 10:37 AM
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Man, i wish i was as knowledgeable as pwise...guess that's where the wise part of his name comes from. I watched a good bit (not as much due to my soured attitude cause of nil) and not just bama/au. I've coached a good bit, but not at the higher levels...was part of a 6a schools football program for 15+ years and watched lots of film with the coaches. But i guess i just don't know what i'm looking at in regards to Nilroe.
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Re: Grubb as offensive coordinator
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02/05/25 11:06 AM
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If Alabama had enough talent to blow out LSU in Death Valley, then there was more than enough juice on the roster to win at Vanderbilt and Oklahoma. The reason for those losses was a combination of poor preparation by the coaching staff and inconsistent quarterback play by Jalen Milroe.
Maybe those two things are related, but either way I’m not about to start blaming Alabama’s offensive line for all of Milroe’s blunders. With a trip to the playoffs in the balance, why didn’t DeBoer and offensive coordinator Nick Sheridan bench Milroe after the first half against Oklahoma?
Was it out of loyalty? Was it fear of being exposed? The most consistent thing about Milroe last season was that when things started to go badly for him they usually got worse. It didn’t take a coaching mastermind to spot the trend. Will DeBoer be loyal once again?
DeBoer should have benched Milroe against Oklahoma in an attempt to save the season. Maybe things would have been different if DeBoer had lieutenant Ryan Grubb by his side. DeBoer and Grubb won a lot of games at Washington with Michael Penix, Jr., playing quarterback, but let’s not forget that it was Sheridan who coached Penix at Indiana before joining DeBoer’s staff in Washington for the 2022 season. This was in an article on Al.com today. He's the lead Sports Writer for the Alabama Media Group and has authored books on Alabama football. Maybe you should drop him a line and tell him he's full of shit too. jgoodman@al.com
"Some men are mere hunters; others are turkey hunters."
-- Archibald Rutledge
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Re: Grubb as offensive coordinator
[Re: BC]
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02/05/25 04:04 PM
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If Alabama had enough talent to blow out LSU in Death Valley, then there was more than enough juice on the roster to win at Vanderbilt and Oklahoma. The reason for those losses was a combination of poor preparation by the coaching staff and inconsistent quarterback play by Jalen Milroe.
Maybe those two things are related, but either way I’m not about to start blaming Alabama’s offensive line for all of Milroe’s blunders. With a trip to the playoffs in the balance, why didn’t DeBoer and offensive coordinator Nick Sheridan bench Milroe after the first half against Oklahoma?
Was it out of loyalty? Was it fear of being exposed? The most consistent thing about Milroe last season was that when things started to go badly for him they usually got worse. It didn’t take a coaching mastermind to spot the trend. Will DeBoer be loyal once again?
DeBoer should have benched Milroe against Oklahoma in an attempt to save the season. Maybe things would have been different if DeBoer had lieutenant Ryan Grubb by his side. DeBoer and Grubb won a lot of games at Washington with Michael Penix, Jr., playing quarterback, but let’s not forget that it was Sheridan who coached Penix at Indiana before joining DeBoer’s staff in Washington for the 2022 season. This was in an article on Al.com today. He's the lead Sports Writer for the Alabama Media Group and has authored books on Alabama football. Maybe you should drop him a line and tell him he's full of shit too. jgoodman@al.com Good stuff BC... and he is spot on about benching Milroe in the Okie game to get us into the playoff...
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Re: Grubb as offensive coordinator
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02/06/25 12:03 AM
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Man, i wish i was as knowledgeable as pwise...guess that's where the wise part of his name comes from. I watched a good bit (not as much due to my soured attitude cause of nil) and not just bama/au. I've coached a good bit, but not at the higher levels...was part of a 6a schools football program for 15+ years and watched lots of film with the coaches. But i guess i just don't know what i'm looking at in regards to Nilroe. Gman mine is spelled with a “y”. We too dumb to even spell it right 🤣. Like I said earlier I’m not saying he was elite and an incredible QB, I am saying that is is really good. And obviously the coaches felt that benching him would have done no good. If you have coached then you know that they know what they got at each position. They are gonna play the players that give them the best chance to win.
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Re: Grubb as offensive coordinator
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02/06/25 12:10 AM
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If Alabama had enough talent to blow out LSU in Death Valley, then there was more than enough juice on the roster to win at Vanderbilt and Oklahoma. The reason for those losses was a combination of poor preparation by the coaching staff and inconsistent quarterback play by Jalen Milroe.
Maybe those two things are related, but either way I’m not about to start blaming Alabama’s offensive line for all of Milroe’s blunders. With a trip to the playoffs in the balance, why didn’t DeBoer and offensive coordinator Nick Sheridan bench Milroe after the first half against Oklahoma?
Was it out of loyalty? Was it fear of being exposed? The most consistent thing about Milroe last season was that when things started to go badly for him they usually got worse. It didn’t take a coaching mastermind to spot the trend. Will DeBoer be loyal once again?
DeBoer should have benched Milroe against Oklahoma in an attempt to save the season. Maybe things would have been different if DeBoer had lieutenant Ryan Grubb by his side. DeBoer and Grubb won a lot of games at Washington with Michael Penix, Jr., playing quarterback, but let’s not forget that it was Sheridan who coached Penix at Indiana before joining DeBoer’s staff in Washington for the 2022 season. This was in an article on Al.com today. He's the lead Sports Writer for the Alabama Media Group and has authored books on Alabama football. Maybe you should drop him a line and tell him he's full of shit too. jgoodman@al.com Good stuff BC... and he is spot on about benching Milroe in the Okie game to get us into the playoff... So if he knows so much and is spot on, why is he a sports righter for AL.com? Why isn’t he coaching an SEC team? Heck he ain’t even a national writer. He is lead sports writer to one of the crappiest news organizations in the country. It’s always easy to sit here and play Monday morning QB and say they should have done this or that. Yall keep in mind that the guy that coaches this team for a living and makes millions doing it agrees with playing Milroe and not the sports writer.
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