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Re: A New Paradigm in Doe Management [Re: CNC] #4300039
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You are delusional if you think the majority of hunters in Alabama can practice any type of common sense doe management, especially in hunting clubs.

One thing for an owner of a 2000 acre piece in central Alabama to do it. Is another for any size group in North Alabama to do it. Or anywhere in the state for that matter.

Take Lauderdale. There are areas of this county full of deer and areas that are not and they are all mixed together. I’m sure every county is similar especially up here.

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Re: A New Paradigm in Doe Management [Re: CNC] #4300094
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Originally Posted by CNC
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GWs have a hard enough time policing a county.. who is going to police the cooperatives?


Whatchu talkin bout Willis??.....Police them for what?? loco


I'm sure everyone who enters one of these fabled cooperatives would be an upstanding, up and up, no nonsense sportsman... no way ever that anyone would cheat the system, esp along property lines from the neighboring cooperatives.


You gonna pull them pistols, or whistle Dixie?
Re: A New Paradigm in Doe Management [Re: treemydog] #4300105
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Originally Posted by treemydog
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GWs have a hard enough time policing a county.. who is going to police the cooperatives?


Whatchu talkin bout Willis??.....Police them for what?? loco


I'm sure everyone who enters one of these fabled cooperatives would be an upstanding, up and up, no nonsense sportsman... no way ever that anyone would cheat the system, esp along property lines from the neighboring cooperatives.


But… it’s no different than… I mean it’s the same policing whether they are in a cooperative or not. I think maybe you are confused on what people mean by cooperative.

Re: A New Paradigm in Doe Management [Re: Pwyse] #4300127
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Originally Posted by Pwyse
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Originally Posted by CNC
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GWs have a hard enough time policing a county.. who is going to police the cooperatives?


Whatchu talkin bout Willis??.....Police them for what?? loco


I'm sure everyone who enters one of these fabled cooperatives would be an upstanding, up and up, no nonsense sportsman... no way ever that anyone would cheat the system, esp along property lines from the neighboring cooperatives.


But… it’s no different than… I mean it’s the same policing whether they are in a cooperative or not. I think maybe you are confused on what people mean by cooperative.


Maybe I did miss something?? I was under the assumption that cooperatives would attempt to hold themselves to a more stringent set of rules than what the state issues.


You gonna pull them pistols, or whistle Dixie?
Re: A New Paradigm in Doe Management [Re: CNC] #4300139
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We’ve used cooperatives for years with unparalleled success. You have to in order to manage a deer herd properly. Few ppl own enough land to make it work without forming some type of cooperative.

But you can’t do it if anyone who impacts the others decides to go rogue.

Re: A New Paradigm in Doe Management [Re: Mbrock] #4300248
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Originally Posted by Mbrock
We’ve used cooperatives for years with unparalleled success. You have to in order to manage a deer herd properly. Few ppl own enough land to make it work without forming some type of cooperative.

But you can’t do it if anyone who impacts the others decides to go rogue.


I could see it working in areas with likeminded leases in a given area. Especially in areas that have leases that are 200 to 500 acres ( rough estimate ) in size that want to have quality deer. In areas like I'm in, with landowners who have 30 to 200 acres I'd have to believe it's more of an uphill climb. Not impossible, but probably less likely depending on the landowners.

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Re: A New Paradigm in Doe Management [Re: CNC] #4300252
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A cooperative to not shoot does would be a lot easier to pull off than one trying to manage for big bucks


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Re: A New Paradigm in Doe Management [Re: CNC] #4300259
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A cooperative to not shoot does would be a lot easier to pull off than one trying to manage for big bucks


Maybe so. I had a nice 2 year old 6 point I let walk all season. He would have been a shooter this year if he made it and would have been a good buck for my area. He was like clockwork every single day. A neighbor ended up getting him with just a couple of days left in the season. Managing deer in an area with neighbors who don't is like pouring water in a bucket with no bottom. It's an exercise in futility.

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Re: A New Paradigm in Doe Management [Re: CNC] #4300303
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“Maybe I did miss something?? I was under the assumption that cooperatives would attempt to hold themselves to a more stringent set of rules than what the state issues.“

Hold themselves is the key phrase. No extra work for game wardens.

Re: A New Paradigm in Doe Management [Re: Pwyse] #4300355
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Originally Posted by Pwyse
“Maybe I did miss something?? I was under the assumption that cooperatives would attempt to hold themselves to a more stringent set of rules than what the state issues.“

Hold themselves is the key phrase. No extra work for game wardens.


I was leaning more towards the situation where the cooperative members "Hold themselves" until the last week or so of season when somebody in the cooperative decides they are going to do whatever they want and screw on their suppressor....


You gonna pull them pistols, or whistle Dixie?
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