When I used to hunt w/ my Rem 7-08, 120gr BTs over varget pushing a tad over 3000fps. Very accurate and sub moa. Figured to try them as an alternative to the Sierra 120gr PHs. Shot a doe at ~ 75 yards. Slightly quartering to. Entered just a tad forward in the rib cage and exited tad rear rib cage, complete pass-through. Dead deer running but not a drop of blood, all internal until just before the last death leap over the bench. Probably went 80 yards. Luckily knew how she was running after going out of sight.