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Re: Season Predictions: The Final Tally [Re: Driveby] #4285637
02/13/25 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Driveby
Originally Posted by eclipse829
I think we should all buy really nice cameras and take pictures of the deer. Not like a trail camera pics, that's too easy . I'm talking about scouting, hanging stands, cutting picture lanes, etc. No kills for 2 yrs. We can post our pics on here and get our egos stroked.

What y'all think?

This is a real thing and not photoshopped. There was a character on a TV show years ago that did this. He was supposed to be a hunter that got tired of killing deer but still enjoyed the "hunt". He did exactly what you are describing and used one of these cameras to get the "feel" of hunting.

[Linked Image]



Know a guy that got tired of killing them and started hunting them with a high dollar paintball gun. He’d get a kick out using different colored paintballs to keep up with when he shot them. He eventually went back to killing them and then quit altogether


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Re: Season Predictions: The Final Tally [Re: mathews prostaff] #4285671
02/13/25 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by mathews prostaff
Originally Posted by Mbrock
Originally Posted by Nightwatchman
Originally Posted by Stickers
Something going on with bucks in the Black Belt....



The hunting in the black belt is starting to suck bigtime. I can tell you without a shadow of a doubt that there are FAR less total deer here than just a couple years ago. It is insanely obvious to anyone who hunts here consistently like I do

I’ve noticed it too

Some properties with real good habitat have less than ideal populations and buck quality is not good either. I attribute that more to high grading by neighbors than a habitat issue though.





it's why Colorado had to go draw only statewide. massive amount of hunters and not enough resources. this 3 month rifle season in alabama has to go no need to rifle hunt for 3 straight months.


Oh lord, I wouldn't want that. I would actually like to be able to go hunting every year after buying a license

Re: Season Predictions: The Final Tally [Re: cartervj] #4285673
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Originally Posted by cartervj
Originally Posted by Driveby
Originally Posted by eclipse829
I think we should all buy really nice cameras and take pictures of the deer. Not like a trail camera pics, that's too easy . I'm talking about scouting, hanging stands, cutting picture lanes, etc. No kills for 2 yrs. We can post our pics on here and get our egos stroked.

What y'all think?

This is a real thing and not photoshopped. There was a character on a TV show years ago that did this. He was supposed to be a hunter that got tired of killing deer but still enjoyed the "hunt". He did exactly what you are describing and used one of these cameras to get the "feel" of hunting.

[Linked Image]



Know a guy that got tired of killing them and started hunting them with a high dollar paintball gun. He’d get a kick out using different colored paintballs to keep up with when he shot them. He eventually went back to killing them and then quit altogether


My dad had a buddy like that years ago. That's actually not a bad idea.

Re: Season Predictions: The Final Tally [Re: mathews prostaff] #4285726
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Originally Posted by mathews prostaff
Originally Posted by Mbrock
Originally Posted by Nightwatchman
Originally Posted by Stickers
Something going on with bucks in the Black Belt....



The hunting in the black belt is starting to suck bigtime. I can tell you without a shadow of a doubt that there are FAR less total deer here than just a couple years ago. It is insanely obvious to anyone who hunts here consistently like I do

I’ve noticed it too

Some properties with real good habitat have less than ideal populations and buck quality is not good either. I attribute that more to high grading by neighbors than a habitat issue though.





it's why Colorado had to go draw only statewide. massive amount of hunters and not enough resources. this 3 month rifle season in alabama has to go no need to rifle hunt for 3 straight months.


Or bow hunt

Re: Season Predictions: The Final Tally [Re: CNC] #4285857
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Family , 4-6 guys ; brothers/ cousins/ sons ; 5-6 years back I overheard one of them say they needed like 2 more to get to 100 deer killed for the season. Don’t know if the new regs, old age or what has slowed them up . Think maybe one even died. We can’t go back to this .

Re: Season Predictions: The Final Tally [Re: blade] #4285893
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it's why Colorado had to go draw only statewide. massive amount of hunters and not enough resources. this 3 month rifle season in alabama has to go no need to rifle hunt for 3 straight months.[/quote]

Or bow hunt
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why don't any of the states like illinois and kansas gun hunt the rut? bow hunting is not like rifle hunting. I had a mid 160 class 13 point at 90 a high 160 class 12 point at 75 and a mid 150 class 10 point at 60 yards in illinois this year. with a rifle I could have killed all 3 but I had a bow and they are still alive. with a rifle that's all you do is kill them. but when you kill one with a bow you beat him and the energy it took to kill him come from your muscles pulling that string back storing the energy in the limbs and transferring that energy into the arrow and into the animal. everything about a bow kill is all about you and what you did to make that happen. when you kill him with a gun that's all you did was kill. it is 100 percent easier to kill one with a gun and that is why the best states to hunt have very limited gun hunting.there is NO REASON to gun hunt 3 straight months. if u need that much time to kill a deer with a gun I reccomend you take up golf.

Re: Season Predictions: The Final Tally [Re: CNC] #4285975
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I just hope that the state closes deer season down completely so that y'all can find something else to bitch and whine about....


I had much rather be tried by twelve than carried to my grave by six!!!!

Re: Season Predictions: The Final Tally [Re: CNC] #4285983
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Well, I didn't kill a single Spike this year. I must be slipping.


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My luck has been so bad lately, it could be raining pussies and I'd catch one with a dick broke off in it.
Re: Season Predictions: The Final Tally [Re: quailman] #4286014
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Originally Posted by quailman
Well, I didn't kill a single Spike this year. I must be slipping.

You’re such a disappointment!!


It's hard to kiss the lips at night that chews your a$$ all day long.


Re: Season Predictions: The Final Tally [Re: CNC] #4286050
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People wanting the season shortened must have poor self control. Don't go if you don't want to.

Re: Season Predictions: The Final Tally [Re: UA Hunter] #4286054
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Originally Posted by UA Hunter
People wanting the season shortened must have poor self control. Don't go if you don't want to.


On the contrary, they care for the resource more than their lack of control to kill something for 3 months.

Re: Season Predictions: The Final Tally [Re: Mbrock] #4286057
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Originally Posted by Mbrock
Originally Posted by UA Hunter
People wanting the season shortened must have poor self control. Don't go if you don't want to.


On the contrary, they care for the resource more than their lack of control to kill something for 3 months.


Who's killing anything for 3 months? The neighbors must be great hunters. They go in areas where there are no deer, and stack them up.

Re: Season Predictions: The Final Tally [Re: marshmud991] #4286098
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Originally Posted by marshmud991
Originally Posted by quailman
Well, I didn't kill a single Spike this year. I must be slipping.

You’re such a disappointment!!



Let us pray... 😃


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Re: Season Predictions: The Final Tally [Re: mathews prostaff] #4286122
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Originally Posted by mathews prostaff




it's why Colorado had to go draw only statewide. massive amount of hunters and not enough resources. this 3 month rifle season in alabama has to go no need to rifle hunt for 3 straight months.


Or bow hunt
[/quote]



why don't any of the states like illinois and kansas gun hunt the rut? bow hunting is not like rifle hunting. I had a mid 160 class 13 point at 90 a high 160 class 12 point at 75 and a mid 150 class 10 point at 60 yards in illinois this year. with a rifle I could have killed all 3 but I had a bow and they are still alive. with a rifle that's all you do is kill them. but when you kill one with a bow you beat him and the energy it took to kill him come from your muscles pulling that string back storing the energy in the limbs and transferring that energy into the arrow and into the animal. everything about a bow kill is all about you and what you did to make that happen. when you kill him with a gun that's all you did was kill. it is 100 percent easier to kill one with a gun and that is why the best states to hunt have very limited gun hunting.there is NO REASON to gun hunt 3 straight months. if u need that much time to kill a deer with a gun I reccomend you take up golf.[/quote]

Get off your phuckin high horse there's nothing special about killing a deer with a modern compound bow


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Re: Season Predictions: The Final Tally [Re: quailman] #4286146
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Originally Posted by quailman
Well, I didn't kill a single Spike this year. I must be slipping.




just make it up next year

Re: Season Predictions: The Final Tally [Re: CNC] #4286174
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beadlescomb.....the point went right over your head. and yes there is something special about killing a big buck with a modern compound bow. you have to get drawn when the deer is in your wheelhouse so you have to beat his eyes he's close so the chances getting winded is high and then you have to hold it still while executing a strong shot. everything about killing a big mature buck with a bow is waaaaay harder than it is with a rifle. even kids can kill deer with a rifle. can 8 yr olds kill a deer with a compound bow?

one again I had 3 bucks this year in illinois inside 100 yds but not on bow range. one was a high 160 or maybe 170 class 12 point a mid 160 class 13 point and a mid 150 class 10 point. could have easily killed all 3 with a rifle. i guarantee you if I could've got an arrow in one of those it would have been way more rewarding than blasting them with a gun.

why do so many folks down here go to the Midwest?

could it be that with the very limited gun hunting that they have more and bigger bucks?

Re: Season Predictions: The Final Tally [Re: CNC] #4286182
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Until you make your own osage bow, whittle your own arrow, make sinew for your string, and knap your own arrowhead- don't come telling us that a modern bow is not an advantage. My bow has an 80lb draw weight, will easily shoot 60yds, and the new cams make let off a dream. It's more challenging than a rifle but not by much. The key to killing a big deer is to have a property good enough to produce big deer. That's it. Truth be told, the guys killing the most big deer are spending the most $ and have the best places to hunt.

Re: Season Predictions: The Final Tally [Re: CNC] #4286186
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Yep!!! Hunters arguing amongst themselves!! Exactly what the activists want. Keep it up!!


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Re: Season Predictions: The Final Tally [Re: CNC] #4286191
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Everyone spouts off because they want to kill big bodied, high scoring bucks. To do that takes discipline and that is severely lacking in Alabama. The first time I drove through South Dakota there were 150 inch bucks bedded in the corn off the interstate. No one was poking a gun barrel out the window and blasting away. Try putting a decoy that size in your front yard and you will have bullet holes in your windows in Alabama.

To raise deer of that size requires a huge amount of acreage or a high fence. I am not able to afford the first and have no desire to hunt in the second.

The guys championing bow hunting as the answer go against my personal experience. I was on a large lease with several individuals. 2 were avid hunters and hunted on the bow opener until the season ended. Those boys were killers. They would pattern and shoot the better bucks before gun season opened. Problem was they recovered only 25% of what they shot. Cannot tell you how many times I crawled through a briar patch 100's of yards following blood and not finding a deer. At the time, I had a decent blood trailing lab that found all my deer. She found very few for them. I was friends with the bow hunters and we eventually got kicked off the lease. Can't say that I blamed the other guys.

Those with political clout are going to win. Just look at the current baiting laws. They were pushed to satisfy those already breaking the law. Now those same guys are ticked off that the guy with 5 acres is doing the same thing now it is legal.

Re: Season Predictions: The Final Tally [Re: Fishduck] #4286199
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Originally Posted by Fishduck

The guys championing bow hunting as the answer go against my personal experience. I was on a large lease with several individuals. 2 were avid hunters and hunted on the bow opener until the season ended. Those boys were killers. They would pattern and shoot the better bucks before gun season opened. Problem was they recovered only 25% of what they shot. Cannot tell you how many times I crawled through a briar patch 100's of yards following blood and not finding a deer. At the time, I had a decent blood trailing lab that found all my deer. She found very few for them. I was friends with the bow hunters and we eventually got kicked off the lease. Can't say that I blamed the other guys.

That’s on those individuals, not bow hunters as a whole. The bow hunters I know have incredible records on recovery. A less than ideal shot happens from time to time, but it shouldn’t be the norm. I know a lot of gun hunters who lose deer every year, but I don’t blame all gun hunters for lost deer.

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