It appears software companies don't want to even talk to someone over 50. Took an early retirement package as it was time to move on and 30 years with one company won't even get you rejection letters.

Totally agree. But some love to point fingers. And the political climate is a direct result of their voting too.

Exactly

Yup. Oh and that i'm gonna work hard so my kids don't have too chit BACKFIRED 🤣

And here I am wanting and needing a job...but all I get in indeed are the email responses... unfortunately we went with a different application...I'm sure age and edimication papers are more important now a days...🤬

I have to spend way to much time working "in" my business, when I should be spending that time working "on" my business, due to the problem of finding and retaining quality workers. I have a core group of great guys but, I have 2 or 3 positions that are a revolving door of slackers.

Some of my core group are going to start aging out and it's concerning

It's not just the "younger" people but most of them definitely aren't worth a chit in most cases. It's people in general. The really good, quality workers are being taken care of by the company they work for and are hard to find and get. You have to just weed through the rest to hopefully find 1 or 2 that you might be worth a chit.

From personal experience in the industrial construction industry in central AL the worker holds the power now versus 10 years ago. First off its incredibly hard to find good help, secondly good help can leave to make more money at any time whether that's going to work with the mill or going to the gulf coast where theres alot more money to make in the oil/gas industry. Yes the employers look like they have gone soft but trust me, its hard to keep help and if you are too hard on them they will just drag up and leave you in a bind. Yes there is a line in the sand where you just have to tell them to pound sand, but that line has moved along ways from when i came into the industry.

I had an example this past week, my boss needed me to send 2 workers out of state last minute on an outage for a few days and they had reasons they couldn't go. 10 years ago they would have been told to take there tools and hit the gate, in today's workforce they got there way because if they hit the gate you cant find anyone to replace them. Mamaging todays workforce for the most parts sucks.

Trust me the employers are struggling and it doesn't matter if its open shop or union, quality workers are like unicorns.

It's absolutely ridiculous. I've got one that is 10-15 minutes late every day, not occasionally, every friggin day. But, he's there every day. I think he's missed 2 days of work in 3 yrs. He's slow and he had a couple of screw ups that cost me about $10k out of pocket last year but he's there every day.

I have another that apparently has IBS and has to chit about a dozen times a day. All I can do to reduce the unproductive time is restrict cell phones in the chitter. It doesn't cut down on how many times he goes but it greatly reduced the time of each visit.

I have a 21yo son that tried the college route and didn't work out. He now works at a wood beam manufacturer. He gets up and goes in at 530-600 am and works until 5pm Mon-Fri and works any weekend he they will let him. He had a beam drop and break his foot a couple of months back, he missed 2 days of work and asked to be put on light duty (could have sat at home for 6 weeks). Then at about 4 weeks he got the Dr to release him back to full duty. He has been out sick 1 day in the past year.

There are young people out there that are willing to put in the work, they are just few and far between. And in our area, I just don't see him being able to really make a good living in this town, and wished he would look elsewhere. He likes working with his hands but does not want to follow in my footsteps and work in the automotive world. I honestly wished he would get on somewhere that works different places in the US, just so he could get out and see the different parts of the country.

Here's some great factual information about today's hardworking "American" workforce that I posted in another thread:

"According to data from the Department of Health and Human Services, roughly 27% of working-age 24-64 adults in the United States participate in a social safety net program, meaning they receive some form of welfare assistance; this translates to around one in four working-age Americans. At a time when the United States is struggling with labor shortages, nearly 20% of prime-age adults—approximately 24 million Americans aged 25-54 — are not working. The vast majority of these people, roughly 21 million, are not even looking for work and are therefore “out of the labor force.” Only three million prime-age adults are seeking work and so are “unemployed”.

That's right, a full 20% of the prime working age US citizens, ages 25-54, are not working at all and 90% of those are not even looking for a job.

There are still quite a few hard workers and skilled craftsmen in the workforce but unfortunately, the majority of these exceptional workers are quickly aging out of the workforce. Almost all are locked down by their current employers and most of those employers, know what they have and will do whatever it takes to keep them. More benefits, more pay, more tolerance for bad actions, whatever it takes. Why, because replacing those guys with what is currently available, is virtually impossible.

I see/read those numbers, but it's hard for me to wrap my head around it being that many. Mind boggling that approx 1 outta 4 folks just don't work & live off Gov tit. How can they afford to live? Do all of 'em live w' relatives or mommy & daddy & mooch off them? Somebody make it make sense. IMO anyone that allows a grown working age person to mooch off them while they do nothing but draw a fed gov check is also part of the problem.

How can they not have anything for their kids Christmas?

Well Eddie's been out of work for 7 yrs, Clark.

In 7 yrs, he couldn't find a job?

Catherine said he's been holding out for a management position.

Christmas Vacation

Try hire someone work in logging industry . Logging industry is slowly dieing . The good folks is retiring . Especially truck drivers . No one take their place . 32 mills shut down last yr nation wide and more schedule to shut down this yr.

Healthcare workforce is bad too. Can't get half of our nurses to come in on a regular basis. Look for any reason to call in. We run 12 hr shifts and at least one nurse calls in daily.

Our youngest son is an RN (currently holds an ADN) and is working toward his BSN while working as a surgical nurse at a local hospital. He told me the other night that their CEO had informed them that they were discontinuing their incentive program in August of this year. We are not sure if he will be able to finish in August or if he will have to wait until December depending on what classes will be offered through the summer. But, he has already been looking into travel nurse jobs because of this decision. He should have gotten a $3.00/hour raise upon completion of the BSN if they were not eliminating the program.

I don't understand how this works but I have seen it happen before here. Hospitals will choose to pay lower wages and run the local nurses off to take travel jobs or have a longer commute for better pay and end up having to hire travel nurses who they have to pay more for - make it make sense!

There's some out there that will work and they possess a superpower compared to their peers. They can work anywhere and about name their price. I tell my son and daughter this all the time, if they will do their job, be on time, and not complain, they will never have a lack for a job and will always make decent money.

I’d thought it’d be higher actually. Considering so many meth heads exist. They moooch too, depending on who knows how to work the paperwork and get whatever welfare they can.

It was funny a few years back a friend of mine, Hancock was helping a family with their power bills and food. Come to find out hay families drawing several thousand in welfare and blowing at the casinos. They’d stay until they blew thru it and then go to the church for help. Found out it was several churches. My friend church helped several meth heads get new teeth etc….
I ithink beer if that church still helps those meth heads, they haven’t changed their ways.

Don’t forget helicopter parents and grandparents. Can’t let the kids breath since they smother the kids with protection from all.