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Re: anyone else???? [Re: BhamFred] #4287535
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Does Texas still allow for baiting?

That was the argument for legalizing baiting for deer. 😂

I’d wish it was illegal for all of baiting or feeding during season

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Originally Posted by cartervj
Does Texas still allow for baiting?

That was the argument for legalizing baiting for deer. 😂

I’d wish it was illegal for all of baiting or feeding during season

I find humor in ill gotten gains. I like careful what you wish for, you just might get it !

Yes. Also can hunt them with rifles. But after spending many years on several south TX ranches and landowners, you can not allow what TX does on a large scale in other southeastern states. Rather than landowners owning 40-400 acres, they own 4000-400000 acres. Baiting don’t have near the impact there. I chuckle when ppl here say “They do it in TX, and we should too.” TX has nowhere near the private land hunters per land area that we do. Not even close.

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Originally Posted by Mbrock
Originally Posted by cartervj
Does Texas still allow for baiting?

That was the argument for legalizing baiting for deer. 😂

I’d wish it was illegal for all of baiting or feeding during season

I find humor in ill gotten gains. I like careful what you wish for, you just might get it !

Yes. Also can hunt them with rifles. But after spending many years on several south TX ranches and landowners, you can not allow what TX does on a large scale in other southeastern states. Rather than landowners owning 40-400 acres, they own 4000-400000 acres. Baiting don’t have near the impact there. I chuckle when ppl here say “They do it in TX, and we should too.” TX has nowhere near the private land hunters per land area that we do. Not even close.


You used to be able to shoot them with a rifle in Wyoming too. Not sure if that’s the case now or not, but I had a guide that wanted me to shoot one out of an alfalfa field at about 800 yards with his 22-250.



Did I read the first post right to say that you can feed during turkey season in FL as long as you wer 100yards away from the feed?

Re: anyone else???? [Re: Pwyse] #4287584
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Originally Posted by Pwyse




Did I read the first post right to say that you can feed during turkey season in FL as long as you wer 100yards away from the feed?


Yup.



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We hunted the same WMA in FL for several years and camped close to a guide (several public land turkey guides in FL cause Osceola = $$$). The guide had a jam up late morning spot where he'd back about 50 yards off a boundary line and call gobblers away from a feeder on the next property. lol. We camped by him 3 years I believe and they killed mid-day feeder gobblers two of those years.

Re: anyone else???? [Re: BhamFred] #4287807
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Wow, and I thought I was old fashioned because I want every cell camera to be turned off during turkey season. My nephew takes off for a greenfield every time that stupid camera goes off at 1:00 in the afternoon.


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Re: anyone else???? [Re: wareagle22] #4287820
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Originally Posted by wareagle22
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The difference in hunting deer and turkeys over corn is that deer can also eat at night. A turkey is gonna eat the easiest thing he can find which makes killing him that much easier. If you got turkeys, you could sit over bait all day long and NEVER call and could limit out easily. To compare to the two is foolish.



Doesn’t change what the bag limit is. What difference does it make how someone kills their turkey?

Folks can and do sit over chufa plots all day and NEVER call now. So what?


Because most people don’t put in the effort to plant chufas but damn near everyone will put out scratch feed if it’s legal. Whole lot less trouble and WAY easier. You wanna see a helluva lot more gobblers get killed, legalize baiting then.

People do it now, even with it illegal. You know why, it’s easier to kill a gobbler that way.



So it’s an effort thing to you and not the baiting itself. Or more to the point, it’s based on your feelings.


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Re: anyone else???? [Re: poorcountrypreacher] #4287823
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Originally Posted by poorcountrypreacher
Originally Posted by N2TRKYS
Originally Posted by wareagle22
The difference in hunting deer and turkeys over corn is that deer can also eat at night. A turkey is gonna eat the easiest thing he can find which makes killing him that much easier. If you got turkeys, you could sit over bait all day long and NEVER call and could limit out easily. To compare to the two is foolish.



Doesn’t change what the bag limit is. What difference does it make how someone kills their turkey?

Folks can and do sit over chufa plots all day and NEVER call now. So what?


You seem to be going on the very false assumption that the folks setting the limit expect every hunter to kill the season limit. No state anywhere expects that. The state of Alabama doesn't have enough turkeys for every hunter to kill 4.

The season limit has nothing to do with whether or not bait is allowed. I've never understood why you so often put those 2 things together. They are unrelated, and everyone else on this forum understands that.


So now you’re changing your mind? You used to say that you can’t kill enough gobblers in the spring to effect the population? It’s I that had been saying that the State knew that it couldn’t support that. It took you you a while to come to that realization , but welcome. It took you far to long to get to that conclusion.


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Re: anyone else???? [Re: BhamFred] #4287830
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Deer hunters typically, feed deer for about 6 months((August-January) and the turkey hunters feed them another couple of months leading up to turkey season. Texas has been feeding for decades. Texas’ hatches depend more on a wet Spring than anything. So, apparently Texas and our birds aren’t being killed by diseases from feed. And, as we’ve been told for years on this forum, that you can’t kill enough Spring gobblers to effect the population, then what’s the issue with baiting during season?

Outside of feelings and emotions, that is? Whether or not you like how someone may or may not hunt is based on feelings and emotions and not based on facts and biology.


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Re: anyone else???? [Re: BhamFred] #4287838
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The only think I’ve found with primos and feeding turkeys was a podcast 2 years ago.,They had couple of known biologists and Will wasn’t in the podcast. They were talking how feeders in turkey season concentrated the nest predators making them easy to trap and taking attention from turkey nesting. Coons were the main predator in discussion. They were talking how a feeder can continue to bring coons in at a long distance. I ever heard anything about hunting turkey around feeder. The Will thing might be something totally different but if true there has to be more to the story.

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Re: anyone else???? [Re: N2TRKYS] #4288039
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Originally Posted by N2TRKYS
Originally Posted by poorcountrypreacher
Originally Posted by N2TRKYS
Originally Posted by wareagle22
The difference in hunting deer and turkeys over corn is that deer can also eat at night. A turkey is gonna eat the easiest thing he can find which makes killing him that much easier. If you got turkeys, you could sit over bait all day long and NEVER call and could limit out easily. To compare to the two is foolish.



Doesn’t change what the bag limit is. What difference does it make how someone kills their turkey?

Folks can and do sit over chufa plots all day and NEVER call now. So what?


You seem to be going on the very false assumption that the folks setting the limit expect every hunter to kill the season limit. No state anywhere expects that. The state of Alabama doesn't have enough turkeys for every hunter to kill 4.

The season limit has nothing to do with whether or not bait is allowed. I've never understood why you so often put those 2 things together. They are unrelated, and everyone else on this forum understands that.


So now you’re changing your mind? You used to say that you can’t kill enough gobblers in the spring to effect the population? It’s I that had been saying that the State knew that it couldn’t support that. It took you you a while to come to that realization , but welcome. It took you far to long to get to that conclusion.


Lol, once again, your logic escapes me, and you have at best, misrepresented my position. You have at worst, told a blatant lie.

I have always said that I didn't think we could kill enough gobblers to effect reproduction under the CURRENT REGULATIONS. There is no way you could have read my posts all these years without understanding that. The primary part of those regulations are no baiting and one gobbler a day. I have always supported those regulations 100%, and it's only with both of them in force that I have made those statements.

You, on the other hand, have advocated being able to bait and kill the entire season limit in one day. Even when the limit was 5, you wanted to be able to kill them all over bait in one day, always using the excuse that it wouldn't matter as long as you didn't exceed the season limit. As I have said, that logic doesn't work because no dcnr anywhere sets the limit expecting everyone to get a limit.

I could write a long essay explaining how you and one of your buddies could wipe out every gobbler in an area in opening morning by shooting them in your corn trench, but you don't like to read or write more than 2 sentences at a time, so I will just say in the nicest way that I can that your position is nonsense, and everyone on here knows it.


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Re: anyone else???? [Re: poorcountrypreacher] #4288084
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Originally Posted by poorcountrypreacher
...... but you don't like to read or write more than 2 sentences at a time, so I will just say in the nicest way that I can that your position is nonsense, and everyone on here knows it.


Yep


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Re: anyone else???? [Re: BhamFred] #4288090
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I 100% agree with PCP.....


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Re: anyone else???? [Re: BhamFred] #4288105
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People actually advocate for baiting turkeys?

Re: anyone else???? [Re: BhamFred] #4288113
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Cant believe that hunting a turkey over bait is even a discussion. I leave a couple feeders running through turkey season with a cell camera until the deer lose their horns. My kids know I would whip them if I caught one of them decoying a turkey off the feed that they just got a picture of much less....hunting over the actual feeder. Man...I was raised different and have a lot of respect for playing the game fairly. Im not very old but can still remember well no cameras and no decoys. I am thankful for being taught that way and now can teach my kids about how it matters where and how you setup on a turkey etc.

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I really can’t believe this guy is serious.

Re: anyone else???? [Re: Nightwatchman] #4288175
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Originally Posted by Nightwatchman
People actually advocate for baiting turkeys?



I can’t believe people on here are actually debating hunting turkeys over bait. If you are hunting turkeys over bait, or with decoys for that matter, you are missing the dang point of hunting turkeys and really shouldn’t call yourself a turkey hunter. You’re in it for absolutely the wrong reasons. Probably the same folks whining when someone mentions reducing the 3 buck limit or reducing deer season length. “Gotta get my 3 buck limit of 100” deer” or shoot 15 50lb yearlings talking about “feeding my family”…..

Re: anyone else???? [Re: poorcountrypreacher] #4288176
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Originally Posted by poorcountrypreacher
[quote=N2TRKYS][quote=poorcountrypreacher]

Lol, once again, your logic escapes me, and you have at best, misrepresented my position. You have at worst, told a blatant lie.

I have always said that I didn't think we could kill enough gobblers to effect reproduction under the CURRENT REGULATIONS. There is no way you could have read my posts all these years without understanding that. The primary part of those regulations are no baiting and one gobbler a day. I have always supported those regulations 100%, and it's only with both of them in force that I have made those statements.

You, on the other hand, have advocated being able to bait and kill the entire season limit in one day. Even when the limit was 5, you wanted to be able to kill them all over bait in one day, always using the excuse that it wouldn't matter as long as you didn't exceed the season limit. As I have said, that logic doesn't work because no dcnr anywhere sets the limit expecting everyone to get a limit.

I could write a long essay explaining how you and one of your buddies could wipe out every gobbler in an area in opening morning by shooting them in your corn trench, but you don't like to read or write more than 2 sentences at a time, so I will just say in the nicest way that I can that your position is nonsense, and everyone on here knows it.


It’s kinda like the weirdos on the street preacher. Don’t look them in the eyes and NEVER speak to them. It’s hard enough to get them to leave you alone as is.

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I bet the whole thing dies down in Mississippi without much fan fare. But, I bet Primos gets his wink and nod that he won’t be bother with tickets for feeding deer during turkey season, which was probably the plan all along. Nothing to see here type deal.


83% of all statistics are made up.

Re: anyone else???? [Re: poorcountrypreacher] #4289124
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Originally Posted by poorcountrypreacher
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Lol, once again, your logic escapes me, and you have at best, misrepresented my position. You have at worst, told a blatant lie.

I have always said that I didn't think we could kill enough gobblers to effect reproduction under the CURRENT REGULATIONS. There is no way you could have read my posts all these years without understanding that. The primary part of those regulations are no baiting and one gobbler a day. I have always supported those regulations 100%, and it's only with both of them in force that I have made those statements.

You, on the other hand, have advocated being able to bait and kill the entire season limit in one day. Even when the limit was 5, you wanted to be able to kill them all over bait in one day, always using the excuse that it wouldn't matter as long as you didn't exceed the season limit. As I have said, that logic doesn't work because no dcnr anywhere sets the limit expecting everyone to get a limit.

I could write a long essay explaining how you and one of your buddies could wipe out every gobbler in an area in opening morning by shooting them in your corn trench, but you don't like to read or write more than 2 sentences at a time, so I will just say in the nicest way that I can that your position is nonsense, and everyone on here knows it.



It would be funny if it weren’t so sad how you’re trying to change your old opinion. You use to go on and on about how you can’t kill enough gobblers in the Spring to effect the population. My position was always that you could. You would always like to beat that drum and come on here and say to anyone that had a different opinion, oh you think gobblers help raise the poults? So, I posed the question about why can’t you kill the limit in one day. You would always talk out of both sides of your mouth, but ultimately came back to the you can’t kill enough gobblers in the Spring to matter.

Operating under your opinion that you can’t kill enough gobblers in the Spring to effect the population, I posed another question. Why not baiting during turkey season? Outside of feelings and emotions, of course. It was all for the discussion, sake.

But all that seems to be posted is feelings and emotion and your changed opinion.

Since there’s been nothing brought forth to counter the question, then I guess nothing will.

Y’all have a good turkey season.


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