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Turkey season complaints #4287450
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What is the most effective way to voice a concern? In the past I have emailed the DCNR directly and reached out to the CAB members.


Why are public land hunters penalized with a shortened season and harvest restrictions? Does anyone know what their reasoning was behind these regulations? I want to understand the “why”

The season comes in 7 days later than private land.
You can only kill one turkey during the first 10 days on a wma.
You can only kill 2 turkeys TOTAL per hunter per WMA



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Re: Turkey season complaints [Re: Southwood7] #4287460
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They bought into Chamberlains flawed theory with zero scientific evidence. The thought process behind the season changes on WMAs was to prove his theory by restricting hunter opportunity on public lands. Originally they were pilots to evaluate results, until someone conned an outgoing CAB member into proposing the statewide changes.

Re: Turkey season complaints [Re: Southwood7] #4287472
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Dang straight!

I thought chuck wanted it to be fair to everyone.



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Re: Turkey season complaints [Re: Mbrock] #4287475
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Originally Posted by Mbrock
They bought into Chamberlains flawed theory with zero scientific evidence. The thought process behind the season changes on WMAs was to prove his theory by restricting hunter opportunity on public lands. Originally they were pilots to evaluate results, until someone conned an outgoing CAB member into proposing the statewide changes.


I figured that was the case. I did hear from a current DCNR employee recently that the dates on public land might be going back to mirror the statewide season.

Matt, I know I might be pissing up my own leg but in your experience what is the best way for a public citizen to really be heard? A few years ago I sent enough emails that I finally got to correspond directly with Chuck.



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Originally Posted by Southwood7

Originally Posted by Mbrock
They bought into Chamberlains flawed theory with zero scientific evidence. The thought process behind the season changes on WMAs was to prove his theory by restricting hunter opportunity on public lands. Originally they were pilots to evaluate results, until someone conned an outgoing CAB member into proposing the statewide changes.


I figured that was the case. I did hear from a current DCNR employee recently that the dates on public land might be going back to mirror the statewide season.

Matt, I know I might be pissing up my own leg but in your experience what is the best way for a public citizen to really be heard? A few years ago I sent enough emails that I finally got to correspond directly with Chuck.

Honestly you’re not valued, so don’t waste your time. They don’t care.

I hate feeling that way, but everything that’s been recommended to that admin from the common public or employees has been discarded. It’s just the truth. I used to try and refrain from speaking negative about what’s going on up there and I’ve always supported the agency publicly. Professionally and ethically I disagree with nearly everything they do, and is why I no longer work there. Don’t care to speak the truth when it’s needed now.

Re: Turkey season complaints [Re: Southwood7] #4287546
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Man that is a sad state of affairs but I appreciate the candor.



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Originally Posted by Southwood7

Man that is a sad state of affairs but I appreciate the candor.

Hey, send them some direct feedback. You never know. I’m speaking from first hand experience though.

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Originally Posted by Mbrock
Originally Posted by Southwood7

Man that is a sad state of affairs but I appreciate the candor.

Hey, send them some direct feedback. You never know. I’m speaking from first hand experience though.


Oh I am still going to tell them what I think 😂



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Re: Turkey season complaints [Re: Southwood7] #4287585
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Re: Turkey season complaints [Re: Southwood7] #4287593
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None of them care. I emailed all the senators before the vote. One actually replied. Piss on chuck Sykes and chamberlain. I’d tell em to their face. Matt you can also thank Dave and all the social media pop stars on YouTube too


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Re: Turkey season complaints [Re: Gobble4me757] #4287602
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Originally Posted by Gobble4me757
None of them care. I emailed all the senators before the vote. One actually replied. Piss on chuck Sykes and chamberlain. I’d tell em to their face. Matt you can also thank Dave and all the social media pop stars on YouTube too

Yeah I went to KS two years ago hunting WIHA areas and it was vastly different than my prior experience. I saw more rented Toyota Camrys with college aged film crews than I did actual hunters. It was pathetic. We killed birds, but had to really work hard to get away from groups of guys with their cameras. Monetizing on material conducted on public lands should be prohibited. I don’t care what anyone’s motivation is, it’s not a benefit to public resources.

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I made an embarrassing amount of posts on this forum trying to fire up resistance. I even thought I may have overreacted using “anti-hunting woke science” and similar language. Well, here we are.

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It’s horse crap what they’re doing with moving the season back. Give us in south Alabama earlier in March to hunt, this may hunting is just lip service. The only way I’ve ever seen them act is when my dad would get them to come speak at our restaurant and he would have about 150 drunk hunters there about to start a lynch mob after them. They probably won’t come back to our place anymore though 🤣

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You can only kill one turkey during the first 10 days on a wma.
You can only kill 2 turkeys TOTAL per hunter per WMA

If these number just doubled it would wipe out a flock of gobblers. The number of hunters on WMA are insane. Truck stack up at the gates.
Say 2 in the first 10 days 4 total. Better leave it alone really not that many birds to go around. Please don’t kill them all.

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Originally Posted by Mbrock
They bought into Chamberlains flawed theory with zero scientific evidence. The thought process behind the season changes on WMAs was to prove his theory by restricting hunter opportunity on public lands. Originally they were pilots to evaluate results, until someone conned an outgoing CAB member into proposing the statewide changes.


Chamberlain is the Fauci to turkey hunting.
I’m extremely glad to see so many other biologists stepping up.

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Originally Posted by bayouturkey
Originally Posted by Mbrock
They bought into Chamberlains flawed theory with zero scientific evidence. The thought process behind the season changes on WMAs was to prove his theory by restricting hunter opportunity on public lands. Originally they were pilots to evaluate results, until someone conned an outgoing CAB member into proposing the statewide changes.


Chamberlain is the Fauci to turkey hunting.
I’m extremely glad to see so many other biologists stepping up.

I’m fine with scientists proposing theories. The scientific method is how we learn. It’s just Mind blowing that so many professionals and state agencies immediately began changing regs and harvest strategies before any science supported it.

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I cant afford to go much..an i sure aint got bk places to hunt no more..aint ever had much ever..i have hunted public land almost exclusively my whole life…my favorite thing to get to do since i been old enough to go by myself..is hit the natfo wide open as much as i could an take me a debbie cake an aggervate one all day long…i cant do that no more…i mean..huntin til lunch sucks bad enough on a wma…but..they rurnt my good time. I growed up knowin you hunt a turkey everday you can..an as long as you can..an youll killeem…piss on them non turkey huntin weirdos


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Originally Posted by Mbrock
Originally Posted by bayouturkey
Originally Posted by Mbrock
They bought into Chamberlains flawed theory with zero scientific evidence. The thought process behind the season changes on WMAs was to prove his theory by restricting hunter opportunity on public lands. Originally they were pilots to evaluate results, until someone conned an outgoing CAB member into proposing the statewide changes.


Chamberlain is the Fauci to turkey hunting.
I’m extremely glad to see so many other biologists stepping up.

I’m fine with scientists proposing theories. The scientific method is how we learn. It’s just Mind blowing that so many professionals and state agencies immediately began changing regs and harvest strategies before any science supported it.


It’s because it was an easy fix. Stroke of a pen was gonna cure their problems.

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Chuck knows more than anybody about anything wildlife related. The sooner y’all get in line the better.
Chamberlain is the greatest turkey biologist the world has ever known


Cluck both of ‘em


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Originally Posted by Mbrock
Originally Posted by bayouturkey
Originally Posted by Mbrock
They bought into Chamberlains flawed theory with zero scientific evidence. The thought process behind the season changes on WMAs was to prove his theory by restricting hunter opportunity on public lands. Originally they were pilots to evaluate results, until someone conned an outgoing CAB member into proposing the statewide changes.


Chamberlain is the Fauci to turkey hunting.
I’m extremely glad to see so many other biologists stepping up.

I’m fine with scientists proposing theories. The scientific method is how we learn. It’s just Mind blowing that so many professionals and state agencies immediately began changing regs and harvest strategies before any science supported it.


Amen, that was what I said over and over when this started. The way that the scientific method was ignored is what produced all the anger among turkey hunters and managers.


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