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Re: DOGE firings [Re: kodiak06] #4288213
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I give zero shits. Burn it down. I don't believe shit the media says. It's always got an angle and that angle will be to hurt America. Government is too big. Clean house. I don't care who makes the cuts, or who they cut. Simply don't give a damn.

There are some I'd like to see cut more than others. But everyone who does get cut will tell you they were essential and had done nothing wrong. 2/3 of them are lying. The other 1/3 are twisting the truth.


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Re: DOGE firings [Re: Fattyfireplug] #4288220
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Originally Posted by Fattyfireplug
I give zero shits. Burn it down. I don't believe shit the media says. It's always got an angle and that angle will be to hurt America. Government is too big. Clean house. I don't care who makes the cuts, or who they cut. Simply don't give a damn.

There are some I'd like to see cut more than others. But everyone who does get cut will tell you they were essential and had done nothing wrong. 2/3 of them are lying. The other 1/3 are twisting the truth.


Nailed it


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Re: DOGE firings [Re: Fattyfireplug] #4288221
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Originally Posted by Fattyfireplug
I give zero shits. Burn it down. I don't believe shit the media says. It's always got an angle and that angle will be to hurt America. Government is too big. Clean house. I don't care who makes the cuts, or who they cut. Simply don't give a damn.

There are some I'd like to see cut more than others. But everyone who does get cut will tell you they were essential and had done nothing wrong. 2/3 of them are lying. The other 1/3 are twisting the truth.


Same here . Cut it to the bare bones . I wouldn’t believe any thing any media outlets say . None them. I do get enjoyment watching national news nowadays just to see the liberal heads explode . They just don’t get it an never will


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Re: DOGE firings [Re: kodiak06] #4288236
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Problem is that, most of the folks getting cut are just normal everyday folks like the rest of us, they just happen to have taken a job with the government. Most probably did it cause it was a cushy job with good benefits and retirement. These people still aren't the problem. It's all the swamp dwellers and their cronies throughout the land at all levels of government that are still gonna be stealing us blind. See the machine that is the Alabama political system. All the money spent and changes and extra taxes, and we still can't get out of 49th place. Thank God for Mississippi.

Re: DOGE firings [Re: CKyleC] #4288237
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Originally Posted by CKyleC
Originally Posted by Fattyfireplug
I give zero shits. Burn it down. I don't believe shit the media says. It's always got an angle and that angle will be to hurt America. Government is too big. Clean house. I don't care who makes the cuts, or who they cut. Simply don't give a damn.

There are some I'd like to see cut more than others. But everyone who does get cut will tell you they were essential and had done nothing wrong. 2/3 of them are lying. The other 1/3 are twisting the truth.


Nailed it



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Re: DOGE firings [Re: kodiak06] #4288241
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There will be plenty of jobs to go around when all the illegals go home. We will see then just how bad these poor victims want to work.

Re: DOGE firings [Re: Fattyfireplug] #4288247
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Originally Posted by Fattyfireplug
I give zero shits. Burn it down. I don't believe shit the media says. It's always got an angle and that angle will be to hurt America. Government is too big. Clean house. I don't care who makes the cuts, or who they cut. Simply don't give a damn.

There are some I'd like to see cut more than others. But everyone who does get cut will tell you they were essential and had done nothing wrong. 2/3 of them are lying. The other 1/3 are twisting the truth.

TRUTH BOMB!!


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Re: DOGE firings [Re: kodiak06] #4288252
02/18/25 07:39 PM
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The medias job is to ally the base and they’re working overtime.

Some that were fired were called back in

I read one report that most of the fired are from the over bloated upper positions and not he actually workers that matter for the job at hand.
Guess they had all those multi-degree d folks to find positions for.


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Re: DOGE firings [Re: kodiak06] #4288258
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We do very much need to cut the size of government. Firing working people is not the way to do it. People going to work every day are not the problem.

Re: DOGE firings [Re: kodiak06] #4288260
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I can't wait until they do away with the Dept of Education. And give it back to the states. The school system is a joke these days. I'm glad my daughters have been out of school for several years now. Although I have grandbabies that will be starting school in a couple years.

Re: DOGE firings [Re: kodiak06] #4288263
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Re: DOGE firings [Re: cartervj] #4288265
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Originally Posted by cartervj
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A when dumbass shut down keystone pipeline an 10,000 folks lost their job . Burn it DOWN!!!


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Re: DOGE firings [Re: hawndog] #4288267
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Originally Posted by hawndog
We do very much need to cut the size of government. Firing working people is not the way to do it. People going to work every day are not the problem.


I don't think you understand the size of the problem. Most people have never looked at the numbers.

20 million gov employees
130 million private sector employees

Total individual income tax collected (including gov employees) = $2.2 Trillion + corporate tax = $2.3 trillion
= $4.5 trillion total
Gov employees cost the US = $3.3 TRILLION per year. (Salary + Benefits + Pensions (only) = no perks, travel, lodging, food, etc)

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How much do all gov employees cost? Chat GPT

The total cost of government employees in the U.S., including salaries, benefits, and pensions, is substantial. Here's an estimate based on federal, state, and local employment data:
Step 1: Total Government Employees
Federal: ~2.9 million civilian employees
State & Local: ~17 million employees
Total: ~20 million government employees

Step 2: Salary Costs
Federal: Average salary ~$95,000 → $275 billion
State & Local: Average salary ~$70,000 → $1.19 trillion
Total Salary Cost: ~$1.46 trillion

Step 3: Benefits (Healthcare, Paid Leave, etc.)
Benefits typically add ~40% to salary costs.
Total Benefits Cost: ~$580 billion

Step 4: Pension Costs
Public pension liabilities (state & local) require ~$1 trillion per year in funding.
Federal pensions add ~$250 billion per year.
Total Pension Cost: ~$1.25 trillion

Step 5: Grand Total (Salary + Benefits + Pensions)
💰 Estimated total cost: ~$3.3 trillion per year

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Re: DOGE firings [Re: brushwhacker] #4288270
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Originally Posted by brushwhacker
Originally Posted by cartervj
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A when dumbass shut down keystone pipeline an 10,000 folks lost their job . Burn it DOWN!!!

Yea those were stupid too. Pointing at something else stupid does not change anything

Re: DOGE firings [Re: brushwhacker] #4288271
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Originally Posted by brushwhacker


A when dumbass shut down keystone pipeline an 10,000 folks lost their job . Burn it DOWN!!!



One of the guys that owned a company that had 90 or so dozer plus support equipment took it all home and sold it off. His company employed 300 or so well paying jobs. A guy I know is good friends with that fellow. He didn’t need any more money he just liked working and providing for others. He’s set and those 300 hundred workers lost out. Most went to Texas he said. You’d know the guy I know. He was in logging and then trucking business along with other opportunities. He just plays these days, has a D6 to play with he needs things done around his place.


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Re: DOGE firings [Re: Beer Belly] #4288273
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Originally Posted by Beer Belly
Originally Posted by hawndog
We do very much need to cut the size of government. Firing working people is not the way to do it. People going to work every day are not the problem.


I don't think you understand the size of the problem. Most people have never looked at the numbers.

20 million gov employees
130 million private sector employees

Total individual income tax collected (including gov employees) = $2.2 Trillion + corporate tax = $2.3 trillion
= $4.5 trillion total
Gov employees cost the US = $3.3 TRILLION per year. (Salary + Benefits + Pensions (only) = no perks, travel, lodging, food, etc)

----------------------------------

How much do all gov employees cost? Chat GPT

The total cost of government employees in the U.S., including salaries, benefits, and pensions, is substantial. Here's an estimate based on federal, state, and local employment data:
Step 1: Total Government Employees
Federal: ~2.9 million civilian employees
State & Local: ~17 million employees
Total: ~20 million government employees

Step 2: Salary Costs
Federal: Average salary ~$95,000 → $275 billion
State & Local: Average salary ~$70,000 → $1.19 trillion
Total Salary Cost: ~$1.46 trillion

Step 3: Benefits (Healthcare, Paid Leave, etc.)
Benefits typically add ~40% to salary costs.
Total Benefits Cost: ~$580 billion

Step 4: Pension Costs
Public pension liabilities (state & local) require ~$1 trillion per year in funding.
Federal pensions add ~$250 billion per year.
Total Pension Cost: ~$1.25 trillion

Step 5: Grand Total (Salary + Benefits + Pensions)
💰 Estimated total cost: ~$3.3 trillion per year



Right. The government should not be the biggest employer in the country. This is long past due.


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Re: DOGE firings [Re: jwalker77] #4288274
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Originally Posted by jwalker77
There will be plenty of jobs to go around when all the illegals go home. We will see then just how bad these poor victims want to work.

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Re: DOGE firings [Re: Beer Belly] #4288279
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Originally Posted by Beer Belly
Originally Posted by hawndog
We do very much need to cut the size of government. Firing working people is not the way to do it. People going to work every day are not the problem.


I don't think you understand the size of the problem. Most people have never looked at the numbers.

20 million gov employees
130 million private sector employees

Total individual income tax collected (including gov employees) = $2.2 Trillion + corporate tax = $2.3 trillion
= $4.5 trillion total
Gov employees cost the US = $3.3 TRILLION per year. (Salary + Benefits + Pensions (only) = no perks, travel, lodging, food, etc)

----------------------------------

How much do all gov employees cost? Chat GPT

The total cost of government employees in the U.S., including salaries, benefits, and pensions, is substantial. Here's an estimate based on federal, state, and local employment data:
Step 1: Total Government Employees
Federal: ~2.9 million civilian employees
State & Local: ~17 million employees
Total: ~20 million government employees

Step 2: Salary Costs
Federal: Average salary ~$95,000 → $275 billion
State & Local: Average salary ~$70,000 → $1.19 trillion
Total Salary Cost: ~$1.46 trillion

Step 3: Benefits (Healthcare, Paid Leave, etc.)
Benefits typically add ~40% to salary costs.
Total Benefits Cost: ~$580 billion

Step 4: Pension Costs
Public pension liabilities (state & local) require ~$1 trillion per year in funding.
Federal pensions add ~$250 billion per year.
Total Pension Cost: ~$1.25 trillion

Step 5: Grand Total (Salary + Benefits + Pensions)
💰 Estimated total cost: ~$3.3 trillion per year



That leaves $1.2 trillion to cover everything else! No wonder we are so dang deep in debt!!!



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Re: DOGE firings [Re: kodiak06] #4288281
02/18/25 08:52 PM
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If Elon is an “employee” he can’t work for free. It’s illegal. As an employee you cannot do work and not be paid in the federal govt.

He can most likely be considered a volunteer on paper. He probably has his clearance due to Space X stuff.


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Re: DOGE firings [Re: TexasHuntress] #4288293
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Originally Posted by TexasHuntress
Originally Posted by Beer Belly
Originally Posted by hawndog
We do very much need to cut the size of government. Firing working people is not the way to do it. People going to work every day are not the problem.


I don't think you understand the size of the problem. Most people have never looked at the numbers.

20 million gov employees
130 million private sector employees

Total individual income tax collected (including gov employees) = $2.2 Trillion + corporate tax = $2.3 trillion
= $4.5 trillion total
Gov employees cost the US = $3.3 TRILLION per year. (Salary + Benefits + Pensions (only) = no perks, travel, lodging, food, etc)

----------------------------------

How much do all gov employees cost? Chat GPT

The total cost of government employees in the U.S., including salaries, benefits, and pensions, is substantial. Here's an estimate based on federal, state, and local employment data:
Step 1: Total Government Employees
Federal: ~2.9 million civilian employees
State & Local: ~17 million employees
Total: ~20 million government employees

Step 2: Salary Costs
Federal: Average salary ~$95,000 → $275 billion
State & Local: Average salary ~$70,000 → $1.19 trillion
Total Salary Cost: ~$1.46 trillion

Step 3: Benefits (Healthcare, Paid Leave, etc.)
Benefits typically add ~40% to salary costs.
Total Benefits Cost: ~$580 billion

Step 4: Pension Costs
Public pension liabilities (state & local) require ~$1 trillion per year in funding.
Federal pensions add ~$250 billion per year.
Total Pension Cost: ~$1.25 trillion

Step 5: Grand Total (Salary + Benefits + Pensions)
💰 Estimated total cost: ~$3.3 trillion per year



That leaves $1.2 trillion to cover everything else! No wonder we are so dang deep in debt!!!



Most those gov employees are state/local & are covered by other taxes, so there is much more $. I was just using fed income tax to show how big the total bill is for gov employees is in the US.




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