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Re: Taxes??? [Re: Bulls eye] #4289615
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Re: Taxes??? [Re: Bulls eye] #4289617
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Inheritance tax on stuff that has already been taxed. Capital gains taxes on houses I’ve already purchased, paid property taxes, rental taxes, business licenses, etc. Taxes on stocks, etc.


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Re: Taxes??? [Re: Geeb] #4289624
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Originally Posted by Geeb
Originally Posted by Backwards cowboy
Originally Posted by jwalker77
Add it all up and see about what % of your money the govt ends up with. Were taxed, retaxed then taxed again. Theyre screwing us going and coming.



I have sat down and figured it out. If you combine all the taxes I have to pay, it's right at 54% . That means 50 cent of every single dollar i earn government steals. This is ridiculous, this is NOT a free country

I've tried to sit down and figure up paid taxes and a day or two after i think I've drawn a conclusion, a forgotten / hidden tax will show itself. I think north of 50% is without question, but I think 54% might be low.

A tax most forget / can't calculate, is the amount of corporate / business tax paid before they ever receive their pay. Employers pay a tremendous amount in the name of / for the employee.

50% atleast for the common American. If George Washington was alive, there would be blood in the streets. Weve become just a bit too civilized to do the hard jobs. Dont want to get our hands dirty. People at church might look at us funny.

Re: Taxes??? [Re: Davyalabama] #4289626
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Originally Posted by Davyalabama
Inheritance tax on stuff that has already been taxed. Capital gains taxes on houses I’ve already purchased, paid property taxes, rental taxes, business licenses, etc. Taxes on stocks, etc.

If a car is sold every couple of years, how many times would it have to be sold before the govt makes more on the car than the company that built it? Fro the manufacturing of the parts till the third or fourth time the car changes hands? All taxes considered. I figure (on average) every car in America that is 20+ yrs old, the govt has made more on it than Ford or Chevrolet. Taxed, retaxed and then taxed again, multiple taxes on the same product.

Now lets talk about that land we "own".

Re: Taxes??? [Re: Bulls eye] #4289629
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I'm just glad I've already got my federal tax refund before all those IRS employees got laid off.

Re: Taxes??? [Re: DryFire] #4289632
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Originally Posted by DryFire
I'm just glad I've already got my federal tax refund before all those IRS employees got laid off.

The ones weve always had or the 80000 new ones? Which was it got laid off? And im pretty sure theres been plenty of people waited months for their refund every year before now and plenty of people got their refund quicker than expected well before your president hired the extra 80000 extra employess. Dont cry too much for those laid off employess, there are jobs opening up every few minutes as the illegals are getting deported. If they really want to work, theyll be able to.

Re: Taxes??? [Re: jwalker77] #4289638
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Originally Posted by jwalker77
Originally Posted by DryFire
I'm just glad I've already got my federal tax refund before all those IRS employees got laid off.

The ones weve always had or the 80000 new ones? Which was it got laid off? And im pretty sure theres been plenty of people waited months for their refund every year before now and plenty of people got their refund quicker than expected well before your president hired the extra 80000 extra employess. Dont cry too much for those laid off employess, there are jobs opening up every few minutes as the illegals are getting deported. If they really want to work, theyll be able to.


They had not hired 80,000 new employees yet.

Re: Taxes??? [Re: jwalker77] #4289642
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Originally Posted by jwalker77
Originally Posted by Davyalabama
Inheritance tax on stuff that has already been taxed. Capital gains taxes on houses I’ve already purchased, paid property taxes, rental taxes, business licenses, etc. Taxes on stocks, etc.

If a car is sold every couple of years, how many times would it have to be sold before the govt makes more on the car than the company that built it? Fro the manufacturing of the parts till the third or fourth time the car changes hands? All taxes considered. I figure (on average) every car in America that is 20+ yrs old, the govt has made more on it than Ford or Chevrolet. Taxed, retaxed and then taxed again, multiple taxes on the same product.

Now lets talk about that land we "own".


I own 4 vehicles and a boat. The oldest car is 14 years old, the newest is 7 years old, and the boat is 21 years old. My tag renewals last month were almost $800. It’s ridiculous.

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Re: Taxes??? [Re: wew3006] #4289643
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Originally Posted by wew3006
Originally Posted by jwalker77
Originally Posted by DryFire
I'm just glad I've already got my federal tax refund before all those IRS employees got laid off.

The ones weve always had or the 80000 new ones? Which was it got laid off? And im pretty sure theres been plenty of people waited months for their refund every year before now and plenty of people got their refund quicker than expected well before your president hired the extra 80000 extra employess. Dont cry too much for those laid off employess, there are jobs opening up every few minutes as the illegals are getting deported. If they really want to work, theyll be able to.


They had not hired 80,000 new employees yet.

Thats good news. Reckon why? They had been talking about it for over a year.

Re: Taxes??? [Re: jwalker77] #4289693
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Originally Posted by jwalker77
Originally Posted by wew3006
Originally Posted by jwalker77
Originally Posted by DryFire
I'm just glad I've already got my federal tax refund before all those IRS employees got laid off.

The ones weve always had or the 80000 new ones? Which was it got laid off? And im pretty sure theres been plenty of people waited months for their refund every year before now and plenty of people got their refund quicker than expected well before your president hired the extra 80000 extra employess. Dont cry too much for those laid off employess, there are jobs opening up every few minutes as the illegals are getting deported. If they really want to work, theyll be able to.


They had not hired 80,000 new employees yet.

Thats good news. Reckon why? They had been talking about it for over a year.


Because nobody wants to work. It's hard enough to hire one, much less 80k


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Between work and personal vehicles i pay over 1k in tags each May🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

Re: Taxes??? [Re: Bulls eye] #4289824
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Originally Posted by Bulls eye
Between work and personal vehicles i pay over 1k in tags each May🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬


That’s all?




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Re: Taxes??? [Re: Bulls eye] #4289836
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What's this "Refund" thingy ya'll talkin bout?


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Re: Taxes??? [Re: eclipse829] #4289841
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Originally Posted by eclipse829
Because nobody wants to work. It's hard enough to hire one, much less 80k


Reckon why they didnt hire them "refugees"? That is why they came here, right?

Re: Taxes??? [Re: jwalker77] #4289859
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Originally Posted by jwalker77
Originally Posted by DryFire
I'm just glad I've already got my federal tax refund before all those IRS employees got laid off.

The ones weve always had or the 80000 new ones? Which was it got laid off? And im pretty sure theres been plenty of people waited months for their refund every year before now and plenty of people got their refund quicker than expected well before your president hired the extra 80000 extra employess. Dont cry too much for those laid off employess, there are jobs opening up every few minutes as the illegals are getting deported. If they really want to work, theyll be able to.


Think they can beat the bid I got from Juan and his two amigos to paint the inside of my house?

Re: Taxes??? [Re: DryFire] #4289862
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Originally Posted by DryFire
Originally Posted by jwalker77
Originally Posted by DryFire
I'm just glad I've already got my federal tax refund before all those IRS employees got laid off.

The ones weve always had or the 80000 new ones? Which was it got laid off? And im pretty sure theres been plenty of people waited months for their refund every year before now and plenty of people got their refund quicker than expected well before your president hired the extra 80000 extra employess. Dont cry too much for those laid off employess, there are jobs opening up every few minutes as the illegals are getting deported. If they really want to work, theyll be able to.


Think they can beat the bid I got from Juan and his two amigos to paint the inside of my house?

I doubt they would do it for any price. Theres alot of different sides to that cheap labor deal. Im pretty sure i would beat the price of the mexican tree crew. Most mexicans (mexican owned crews)in construction around here are charging just about like everyone else. Painters might be a bit different. Not much overhead so they can charge less. I worked on hurricane jobs where fema hired about anyone who applied, gave them a clipboard and rulebook and theyd watch me climb trees and order me around like theyd been cutting trees all their life. For the most part, around here, the day of the cheap mexican labor is a thing of the past. And mexicans despise us for treating them poorly when they came here for a better life. Just about the only cheap mexican labor around here is farm work.

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Originally Posted by DryFire
Originally Posted by jwalker77
Originally Posted by DryFire
I'm just glad I've already got my federal tax refund before all those IRS employees got laid off.

The ones weve always had or the 80000 new ones? Which was it got laid off? And im pretty sure theres been plenty of people waited months for their refund every year before now and plenty of people got their refund quicker than expected well before your president hired the extra 80000 extra employess. Dont cry too much for those laid off employess, there are jobs opening up every few minutes as the illegals are getting deported. If they really want to work, theyll be able to.


Think they can beat the bid I got from Juan and his two amigos to paint the inside of my house?


Definitely not if you could even get them to actually come out there to quote it.

Re: Taxes??? [Re: Bulls eye] #4289895
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There are 2 times a year that I get upset. Tax time and when I have to go get my DL renewed. And I understand I don’t get it renewed every year but yall know what I mean.

I see the OP listed “local income tax”. Do some cities or counties charge income tax?

Obviously the problem with government is it’s grossly inefficient. That goes without saying. But it does provide most of the infrastructure we use. There are some good things the government provides that we would not want to do without so I understand and agree with the concept of paying taxes. It’s just the percentage that I don’t agree with. We should be doing less government with less taxes.

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[/quote]Think they can beat the bid I got from Juan and his two amigos to paint the inside of my house?
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Depends on how much stuff of yours, that Juan and his two amigos make off with! grin

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