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Re: Government job cuts
[Re: bill]
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02/22/25 07:50 AM
02/22/25 07:50 AM
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Posts: 20,117 North AL
AU338MAG
Freak of Nature
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In my opinion this complaining is exactly why we never win. Hardline cuts and a complete restructuring of the government was needed. Trump is making cuts that no other president had the guts to make but even some Republicans don't have the stomach for what's necessary. . I'm guessing he's going to get it down to what's essential then evaluate what kind of funding will be needed to operate things before submitting his budget for approval. I don't think it would be a good idea to submit the reduced budget then make the cuts because there would be too much opposition from those saying the funding wouldn't be sufficient to operate the government. Make the necessary cuts then show them we can still operate effectively after the cuts then there is no argument against a greatly reduced budget. Never thought I'd be the one defending Trump but this time around he's taking no prisoners and is keeping his promises. Nailed it. Tear everything down to the foundations and rebuild what needs to be built. Why does the department of agriculture need 4 employees for every farmer? Put those extra people out in the fields to replace the illegal immigrants that Trump is sending back home.
Dying ain't much of a living boy...Josey Wales
Molon Labe
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Re: Government job cuts
[Re: Ridge Life]
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02/22/25 07:58 AM
02/22/25 07:58 AM
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Posts: 15,475 Hoover
Fattyfireplug
Old Mossy Horns
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I see the problem this way. There are a bunch of folk who are convinced they're the only ones capable of doing a job correctly. Convinced they are essential. I've been prone to that thinking myself a few times in my younger years. Experience has taught me otherwise. A very wise man once told me this and he was absolutely spot on. "If you think you're irreplaceable, fill a 5 gallon bucket with water and stick your hands in it. Remove your hands quickly and see how long it takes to fill that void." He was absolutely 100% correct. There are an exceptionally small number of jobs that cannot be filled just that quickly.
But that government teat is hard to come off of. It's big money with little oversite on when, where, who and what it's spent on. Everyone who's on it will cry like an infant when pulled off it. But mommas tits are sore and she needs a break.
I hope Musk puts a blade on that chainsaw and gets to work. I hope Trump releases the Epstein and Diddy lists. Burn it to the ground.
Character is not developed in moments of temptation and trial. That is when it is intended to be used.
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Re: Government job cuts
[Re: AlabamaSwamper]
#4290143
02/22/25 08:06 AM
02/22/25 08:06 AM
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Posts: 25,072 blount county alabama
jwalker77
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And how many times have we passed by a govt jobsite, 5 men standing there watching one guy work. Yeah, i know those are county or state jobsites. Dont you think federal is the same? Dont you think the same amount of work could get done with half as many workers? We all know thats the reality of the situation. It is what it is. Then theres the crazy inflated prices we pay for materials. Then we could get into the good ole boy contracts given to politicians families and friends, all costing 10x what they should. Theres plenty of problems. You apparently have no idea what you are talking about. That has nothing to do with the people. You want them to get fired for breaking safety regulations because that’s exactly why you see what you see. And at the bottom field level you also apparently have no clue how govt contracts work for materials or anything else. You’d be shocked to learn how wrong your are. I You work for the county? Five county cuys standing around watching one guy dig a hole, or whatever job theyre currently doing, is a running joke around here, so common its become a cliche. And i guess if i dont know what im talking about, i guess im not alone. And i guess all the contrcts on govt work are straight up and given to the lowest bidder every time? Politicians giving contracts to their families and buddies is also so common its cliche. And the price of materials the govt uses is definately inflated. Likely being sold to them by one of their buddies company, that is also a fact. I dont know where youve been but all thats been going on all my life and its pretty well documented.
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Re: Government job cuts
[Re: Ridge Life]
#4290154
02/22/25 08:22 AM
02/22/25 08:22 AM
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cartervj
Freak of Nature
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There’s so many problems at so many levels this is gonna hurt like hell.
Firing so many at the same time is a bit concerning I’d guess but it depends on the numbers. I’d imagine the stock market is gonna do some serious corrections considering how much it loved all that corporate welfare that drove the market.
I know a gal that is complaining about having to go into work and also now is worried about her job. She works for the IRS. That makes her of the ship. lol
“Socialism only works in two places: Heaven where they don't need it and hell where they already have it.” ― Ronald Reagan
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Re: Government job cuts
[Re: Mbrock]
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02/22/25 08:58 AM
02/22/25 08:58 AM
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Posts: 72,323 Luverne, AL
Skinny
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Lots of federal wildland firefighters, wildlife biologists and foresters have been cut. Hard to find careers in those fields. Wish there was more oversight on who’s getting cut. Try competent archaeologists. I could list dozens who are not working because they have been replaced by straight to PhD idiots. I can show you thousands of unfinished or incomplete reports that never got done because some ass-jaw phucktard reviewer could not understand the damn first page of a report, much less the data in the report.
"Never Trust Government" -- Smart people. "The Great thing we should Fear and the Weird Thing we Trust is Elon Musk" -- Me "You can be broke but you cant be poor." -- Ruthie-May Webster
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Re: Government job cuts
[Re: Ridge Life]
#4290167
02/22/25 09:08 AM
02/22/25 09:08 AM
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Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 8,397 Boaz,AL
CarbonClimber1
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I mean..wouldnt right now be a good time to start a private business doin what you were doin..if it was essential as so many say…then you shouldn’t have any problem just fillin the void left by your government job…small government and big people…maybe the states should feel the federal gap…i hate folks are losin their job..but…most of these folks aint worth what they are bein paid in the first place and..its time to change..or at least.. become something new
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"I dont quit.. And ill fight alone if i have to"
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Re: Government job cuts
[Re: Ridge Life]
#4290168
02/22/25 09:09 AM
02/22/25 09:09 AM
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Posts: 26,793 Tampa
Beer Belly
Freak of Nature
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When "Learn to Code" was turned around on social media & media when their jobs were being lost, it became a bannable offense. It was fine when it was said to coal miners, but when it was said to the leftist crown it was weaponized hate speech. Yes, You Can Get Kicked Off Twitter for Saying 'Learn To ... The weaponization of 'learn to code' Will Twitter Punish Users Who Tweet 'Learn to Code' at ... Why the “Learn to Code” Meme Is Toxic and Shouldn't Be ... Bunch of articles explaint it.
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Re: Government job cuts
[Re: Mbrock]
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02/22/25 09:49 AM
02/22/25 09:49 AM
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Vernon Tull
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Lots of federal wildland firefighters, wildlife biologists and foresters have been cut. Hard to find careers in those fields. Wish there was more oversight on who’s getting cut. That's exactly right. This administration is creating tremendous bad will even among good, conservative, loyal Americans who have done their jobs very well and deserve in no way to be fired. Cutting waste and fraud in government can be done in a sensible and systematic way instead of a blizzard of unthinking carnage and chaos.
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Re: Government job cuts
[Re: Vernon Tull]
#4290193
02/22/25 09:56 AM
02/22/25 09:56 AM
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turkey247
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Cutting waste and fraud in government can be done in a sensible and systematic way
Nobody in the private sector believes that. Systematic way? That IS government waste and everybody knows it.
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Re: Government job cuts
[Re: jwalker77]
#4290197
02/22/25 09:59 AM
02/22/25 09:59 AM
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Posts: 13,058 Satsuma
kodiak06
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Kodiak, theyve had 4yrs to figure out what needs to be done. What youre saying sounds exactly like what theyre screaming on msnbc. Those studies youre talking about take quite a bit of time, more people are hired to do the study and the study always cost millions of dollars itself. Thats about like congress saying they should get to decide what money gets cut. Theyre the ones who decided to spend it to start with. Whats going on in this country right now will come at a price. I believe in and fully support whats happening. Its going to sting for a minute but in the end, every citizen will benefit. And again i say, this is what we voted for. Hes doing exactlywhat he said he would do. I know those studies take some time but I also know rushing the task is a Fugg-up on Trumps part. Musk hasn't completed those studies nor anyone else to our knowledge and until they do so it's a total numbers game to impress people . Again "we" didn't vote on people losing jobs with elon musk and DOGE coming in making uneducated or unproven decisions. I don't watch any news outlets but what I'm saying is straight up common sense when it comes to a RIF. I lived through the governments DA decision with a military RIF and watched people get booted out the door when they didn't met the wording of the RIF. Those same guys received calls a year later to come back lol, and they all told Uncle Sam to FO... From reports DOGE fired nuclear folks only to recall those needed for the job, kinda makes the point for me lol. Same goes with the NF jobs except they won't be called back until shit catches on fire.
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Re: Government job cuts
[Re: Vernon Tull]
#4290214
02/22/25 10:37 AM
02/22/25 10:37 AM
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Posts: 8,318 Tenn
woodduck
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Lots of federal wildland firefighters, wildlife biologists and foresters have been cut. Hard to find careers in those fields. Wish there was more oversight on who’s getting cut. That's exactly right. This administration is creating tremendous bad will even among good, conservative, loyal Americans who have done their jobs very well and deserve in no way to be fired. Cutting waste and fraud in government can be done in a sensible and systematic way instead of a blizzard of unthinking carnage and chaos. I agree to an extent. But I think trump and crew know this has to be done fast and furious. You give democrats and rhino republicans a few months of planning over their wine and cheese study groups it won’t get done.
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Re: Government job cuts
[Re: woodduck]
#4290221
02/22/25 10:45 AM
02/22/25 10:45 AM
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Posts: 21,929 colbert county
cartervj
Freak of Nature
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Lots of federal wildland firefighters, wildlife biologists and foresters have been cut. Hard to find careers in those fields. Wish there was more oversight on who’s getting cut. That's exactly right. This administration is creating tremendous bad will even among good, conservative, loyal Americans who have done their jobs very well and deserve in no way to be fired. Cutting waste and fraud in government can be done in a sensible and systematic way instead of a blizzard of unthinking carnage and chaos. I agree to an extent. But I think trump and crew know this has to be done fast and furious. You give democrats and rhino republicans a few months of planning over their wine and cheese study groups it won’t get done. It’s a hard reset or least as hard as they can go. They’ll bring back some I’m sure but this whole entire situation is one huge bureaucratic nightmare
“Socialism only works in two places: Heaven where they don't need it and hell where they already have it.” ― Ronald Reagan
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Re: Government job cuts
[Re: Ridge Life]
#4290226
02/22/25 10:52 AM
02/22/25 10:52 AM
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Posts: 4,720 Lower Alabama
Andalusia
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Trump is in his last term as President and he understands that drastic measures have to be done and done quickly or they won't get done. He isn't running for re-election so doing some things that aren't comfortable or popular along with all the good things he is doing is just getting us to a better place. In a few years all the anxiety and concern will be forgotten and focused on something else.
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it"
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