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Patel and Schiff #4290104
02/22/25 03:20 AM
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Re: Patel and Schiff [Re: Tree Dweller] #4290118
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If Kash follows through then there will be quite a few people in serious trouble


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Re: Patel and Schiff [Re: Tree Dweller] #4290121
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Burn his a$$!

Re: Patel and Schiff [Re: Tree Dweller] #4290158
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Was Shifty given a pre emptive pardon by Brandon? If so, there was a reason.

Re: Patel and Schiff [Re: Tree Dweller] #4290191
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Listening to that piece of schiff talk about issues like integrity and protecting the people makes me want to throw up. He needs to be tried and end up at the end of a rope.

Re: Patel and Schiff [Re: RidgeRanger] #4290498
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Originally Posted by RidgeRanger
Listening to that piece of schiff talk about issues like integrity and protecting the people makes me want to throw up. He needs to be tried and end up at the end of a rope.



I agree.

Re: Patel and Schiff [Re: Red Fox] #4290695
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Originally Posted by Red Fox
Was Shifty given a pre emptive pardon by Brandon? If so, there was a reason.

He was. I don’t know everything that the pardon covered, but there’s probably plenty of illegal things he’s been involved in that’s illegal. If nothing else, they can revoke any security clearances he has to limit what committees he sits on.

Re: Patel and Schiff [Re: Red Fox] #4291346
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Originally Posted by Red Fox
Was Shifty given a pre emptive pardon by Brandon? If so, there was a reason.



Only for the J6 stuff.

He is still wide open for the Russia Gate stuff. I am hoping his is the first person to be made an example of. He is probably also on the Epstein list so hopefully that will get him and all these other "elites" what they have coming.


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Re: Patel and Schiff [Re: Tree Dweller] #4291366
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however this falls out this inner circle of lying Democrats needs to be eliminated from our future politics.

I can make a list of Republicans that someone ought to take a look at just the same....


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Re: Patel and Schiff [Re: Tree Dweller] #4291419
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I still remember this stupid POS talking about all of the evidence during Trumps BS impeachment and then when it came time to present it they had nothing. He lied to the American people and yet nothing will happen to him

Re: Patel and Schiff [Re: Tree Dweller] #4291423
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Nothing will happen to him, because Congressmen can say whatever they want, truth or lie, without any fear of prosecution. Here is a copy and paste.

"The Constitution has a clause that protects Congressmen and Senators from having the Executive Branch claim that their speech is criminal. From Article I, Section 6, speaking of Senators and members of the House:

… for any Speech or Debate in either House, they shall not be questioned in any other Place.

There is however, accountability for lying in an open hearing, at least theoretically. From Article I, Section 5:

Each House may determine the Rules of its Proceedings, punish its Members for disorderly Behaviour, and, with the Concurrence of two thirds, expel a Member.

So, in particular, if a Congressman is proven to have been lying in his opening remarks in each of the recent depositions, he cannot be prosecuted for it. He could, however, be censured or even removed by the House for it. However, removal would require 2/3 of the House to vote for it, and that is not likely, even if it is shown that he or she was paid by Russia to do so."

Basically, they can say and do anything they want and are accountable to only themselves and their peers. Outright lying has been allowed on the floor and in chambers for so long, that nobody even thinks twice about doing it, as long as it advances a point or moves the needle politically. While we are fixing government, this needs to be changed, as well as adding strict term limits and maximum age requirements.

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Re: Patel and Schiff [Re: abolt300] #4291768
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Originally Posted by abolt300
Nothing will happen to him, because Congressmen can say whatever they want, truth or lie, without any fear of prosecution. Here is a copy and paste.

"The Constitution has a clause that protects Congressmen and Senators from having the Executive Branch claim that their speech is criminal. From Article I, Section 6, speaking of Senators and members of the House:

… for any Speech or Debate in either House, they shall not be questioned in any other Place.

There is however, accountability for lying in an open hearing, at least theoretically. From Article I, Section 5:

Each House may determine the Rules of its Proceedings, punish its Members for disorderly Behaviour, and, with the Concurrence of two thirds, expel a Member.

So, in particular, if a Congressman is proven to have been lying in his opening remarks in each of the recent depositions, he cannot be prosecuted for it. He could, however, be censured or even removed by the House for it. However, removal would require 2/3 of the House to vote for it, and that is not likely, even if it is shown that he or she was paid by Russia to do so."

Basically, they can say and do anything they want and are accountable to only themselves and their peers. Outright lying has been allowed on the floor and in chambers for so long, that nobody even thinks twice about doing it, as long as it advances a point or moves the needle politically. While we are fixing government, this needs to be changed, as well as adding strict term limits and maximum age requirements.



That is only the case for speech made on the floor. When he is being interviewed outside the chamber or on in a TV studio he has no such protection.


I love my country, but don't trust my government.
Re: Patel and Schiff [Re: sumpter_al] #4291813
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Originally Posted by sumpter_al
Originally Posted by abolt300
Nothing will happen to him, because Congressmen can say whatever they want, truth or lie, without any fear of prosecution. Here is a copy and paste.

"The Constitution has a clause that protects Congressmen and Senators from having the Executive Branch claim that their speech is criminal. From Article I, Section 6, speaking of Senators and members of the House:

… for any Speech or Debate in either House, they shall not be questioned in any other Place.

There is however, accountability for lying in an open hearing, at least theoretically. From Article I, Section 5:

Each House may determine the Rules of its Proceedings, punish its Members for disorderly Behaviour, and, with the Concurrence of two thirds, expel a Member.

So, in particular, if a Congressman is proven to have been lying in his opening remarks in each of the recent depositions, he cannot be prosecuted for it. He could, however, be censured or even removed by the House for it. However, removal would require 2/3 of the House to vote for it, and that is not likely, even if it is shown that he or she was paid by Russia to do so."

Basically, they can say and do anything they want and are accountable to only themselves and their peers. Outright lying has been allowed on the floor and in chambers for so long, that nobody even thinks twice about doing it, as long as it advances a point or moves the needle politically. While we are fixing government, this needs to be changed, as well as adding strict term limits and maximum age requirements.



That is only the case for speech made on the floor. When he is being interviewed outside the chamber or on in a TV studio he has no such protection.


Agree, but show me just one house or senate member, in the last 100 yrs, that has been prosecuted for lying, defamation, or knowingly and intentionally spreading false propaganda, for political benefit, outside of the chamber. There aren't any and there should be hundreds, if not thousands in just the past 75 yrs. This "get out of jail free speech exemption" has be construed by all to be another blanket immunity type deal. That needs to change immediately, with formal prosecutions of those found guilty of it, repub or dem. Duly elected senators and representatives should face severe legal repercussions for intentionally lying to those that elected them.

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Re: Patel and Schiff [Re: Tree Dweller] #4291815
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They don't use the word lie. They say : " The Gentleman lacks candor". grin


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