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Re: Steven’s 301
[Re: BPI]
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02/18/25 04:45 PM
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Crappie
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Patterned the 301 with 6 shot TSS this weekend and I am impressed. It is a 40 plus yard gun all day long. 6 shot out of a .410? But why?
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Re: Steven’s 301
[Re: Crappie]
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02/19/25 08:30 AM
02/19/25 08:30 AM
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Patterned the 301 with 6 shot TSS this weekend and I am impressed. It is a 40 plus yard gun all day long. 6 shot out of a .410? But why? Cause that's what they had at the store. Patterning it was the point. I'll fine tune later. Heck I looked to order some more and they don't make 6 shot so it couldn't have been 6. Must have been 7 or 9. I'm thinking it was probably 7 because some of the pellets were shooting through metal roofing at over 40 yards.
Last edited by BPI; 02/20/25 08:55 AM.
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Re: Steven’s 301
[Re: Livintohunt19]
#4290044
02/21/25 09:59 PM
02/21/25 09:59 PM
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Rollin around here somewhere
YB21
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The Yildiz is much lighter and cheaper at 3.3 be lbs and $129, but more expensive in the long run as you’ll need to have it drilled and tapped for a red dot mount and the barrel threaded for chokes. I sent my barrel to a gunsmith in northAlabama and had it back in less than a week.
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Re: Steven’s 301
[Re: BPI]
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02/22/25 08:19 AM
02/22/25 08:19 AM
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North Jackson
ridgestalker
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Patterned the 301 with 6 shot TSS this weekend and I am impressed. It is a 40 plus yard gun all day long. 6 shot out of a .410? But why? Cause that's what they had at the store. Patterning it was the point. I'll fine tune later. Heck I looked to order some more and they don't make 6 shot so it couldn't have been 6. Must have been 7 or 9. I'm thinking it was probably 7 because some of the pellets were shooting through metal roofing at over 40 yards. #9 will blow thru metal roofing at 40. This will be my 13th season carrying 410 and it’s good to 45 easy. I’m around 67 birds with my Kmart special 410. I shoot mostly handloads but have used Apex with great results.
"The Heavens declare the glory of God;and the firmament sheweth his handiwork" Pslam 19:1
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Re: Steven’s 301
[Re: ridgestalker]
#4290444
02/22/25 07:56 PM
02/22/25 07:56 PM
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Rollin around here somewhere
YB21
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#9 will blow thru metal roofing at 40. This will be my 13th season carrying 410 and it’s good to 45 easy. I’m around 67 birds with my Kmart special 410. I shoot mostly handloads but have used Apex with great results. What 410 you got ridgestalker?
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Re: Steven’s 301
[Re: YB21]
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02/22/25 09:30 PM
02/22/25 09:30 PM
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North Jackson
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#9 will blow thru metal roofing at 40. This will be my 13th season carrying 410 and it’s good to 45 easy. I’m around 67 birds with my Kmart special 410. I shoot mostly handloads but have used Apex with great results. What 410 you got ridgestalker? CB came from Kmart in early 80s.
"The Heavens declare the glory of God;and the firmament sheweth his handiwork" Pslam 19:1
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Re: Steven’s 301
[Re: howl]
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02/26/25 01:05 PM
02/26/25 01:05 PM
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Boxes Cove
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That's the big chunk of Chinese steel, right? Lots of people like them. Seems like you may as well get the 20ga over the .410 since they weigh the same.
For .410 I prefer a tiny bit of Turkish aluminum from Academy. In a 410 you get what will throw a killer pattern , most won't . Those little 301s and a few others are the only ones that will make the grade.
"Why do you ask"?
Always vote the slowest path to socialism.
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Re: Steven’s 301
[Re: 2Dogs]
#4292685
02/27/25 12:38 PM
02/27/25 12:38 PM
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Posts: 1,320
Georgia
howl
8 point
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That's the big chunk of Chinese steel, right? Lots of people like them. Seems like you may as well get the 20ga over the .410 since they weigh the same.
For .410 I prefer a tiny bit of Turkish aluminum from Academy. In a 410 you get what will throw a killer pattern , most won't . Those little 301s and a few others are the only ones that will make the grade. You can buy .410 turkey chokes just like everything else. The critical part is the load. .410 is persnickety and factory shells aren't as consistent as needed to be sure of performance.
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Re: Steven’s 301
[Re: howl]
#4292725
02/27/25 02:44 PM
02/27/25 02:44 PM
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Posts: 37,659
Boxes Cove
2Dogs
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That's the big chunk of Chinese steel, right? Lots of people like them. Seems like you may as well get the 20ga over the .410 since they weigh the same.
For .410 I prefer a tiny bit of Turkish aluminum from Academy. In a 410 you get what will throw a killer pattern , most won't . Those little 301s and a few others are the only ones that will make the grade. You can buy .410 turkey chokes just like everything else. The critical part is the load. .410 is persnickety and factory shells aren't as consistent as needed to be sure of performance. I've seen some that won't shoot regardless of choke. I do agree , 410s are not forgiving when it comes to shells. I have a great combo in my 301 with factory choke , polished bore and some highly tested hand loads. The only person I know that has thrown more TSS at paper than me, is the man who developed the load.
"Why do you ask"?
Always vote the slowest path to socialism.
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Re: Steven’s 301
[Re: 2Dogs]
#4292787
02/27/25 05:17 PM
02/27/25 05:17 PM
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Georgia
howl
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That's the big chunk of Chinese steel, right? Lots of people like them. Seems like you may as well get the 20ga over the .410 since they weigh the same.
For .410 I prefer a tiny bit of Turkish aluminum from Academy. In a 410 you get what will throw a killer pattern , most won't . Those little 301s and a few others are the only ones that will make the grade. You can buy .410 turkey chokes just like everything else. The critical part is the load. .410 is persnickety and factory shells aren't as consistent as needed to be sure of performance. I've seen some that won't shoot regardless of choke. I do agree , 410s are not forgiving when it comes to shells. I have a great combo in my 301 with factory choke , polished bore and some highly tested hand loads. The only person I know that has thrown more TSS at paper than me, is the man who developed the load. That's my point. If you're going to carry the weight, just get the 20ga. You'll double the number of pellets so you don't have to go through all the fine tuning. Different stroke for different folks, though, I guess. My only interest is in a 3.3# gun. Glad you found a hobby you like with patterning. Seems like there a lots of people who enjoy that.
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Re: Steven’s 301
[Re: Livintohunt19]
#4292806
02/27/25 05:49 PM
02/27/25 05:49 PM
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Crappie
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The .410 301T is nowhere close to the weight of the 20 gauge 310T. I know because I own them both.
The 20 gauge is 1.5 lbs heavier than the .410, just weighed them.
Last edited by Crappie; 02/27/25 09:42 PM.
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Re: Steven’s 301
[Re: ridgestalker]
#4293068
02/28/25 08:44 AM
02/28/25 08:44 AM
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BPI
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Patterned the 301 with 6 shot TSS this weekend and I am impressed. It is a 40 plus yard gun all day long. 6 shot out of a .410? But why? Cause that's what they had at the store. Patterning it was the point. I'll fine tune later. Heck I looked to order some more and they don't make 6 shot so it couldn't have been 6. Must have been 7 or 9. I'm thinking it was probably 7 because some of the pellets were shooting through metal roofing at over 40 yards. #9 will blow thru metal roofing at 40. This will be my 13th season carrying 410 and it’s good to 45 easy. I’m around 67 birds with my Kmart special 410. I shoot mostly handloads but have used Apex with great results. I rechecked the TSS box to see what they were and they are 9 shot. I must have read the 9 upside down LOL !
Last edited by BPI; 02/28/25 08:44 AM.
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