I just attended his seminar in Thomasville yesterday and today. A lot of good stuff and a lot of results to back it up. I thought it was well put together and he did a pretty good job of teaching his methods and reasoning behind his methods. Did anyone else attend?

Give us some details. I’m not familiar

I would but not allowed to. 😂

Is it true He has You sign a non disclosure type agreement when You sign Up?

I’ll wait on the book

So this is where you pay to get talked down to?

Not true

I suspect that is how most if not all seminars work. There were some handouts

He had some companies donate some nice prizes that he sold raffle tickets too. They took in $8,200 (I think that’s the right number) in raffle ticket sales. He matched that amount and donated it to St Jude. Over $16k to St Jude is impressive. He had a bout with cancer and had chemo going with a kid in the next station beside him. He said that changed him forever. He does the same at all the seminars he does I believe. It was a good thing.

Did he take your phone at the door?

I attended last year. I sent my son and his wife this year. She took 60 pages of notes.

Looking forward to reading them!

nope and i aint going .

Haha no he didn’t.

I took right at 30 pages. But I write very small with short hand. And I took zero notes during the trapping part.

Did yall have to leave your car keys in a bowl ?

Who is he??? What is it about? Honestly never heard of this.

He’s a land manager who hosts seminars discussing deer and land management. He causes quite a controversy due to his character and personality.

Oh, ok. Yeah I honestly hadn’t heard the name before. Thanks Matt.

FIFY

FIFY

Is he like that Woods fella on growing deer?

No

What’s type of product is he selling?
Woods is selling no till drills from what I can tell.

I don’t care what kind of person he is if I’m buying information. I’m not working with him, being his friend, or kin to him. I always try to take in as much information and point of views on a subject I am interested in or needing to learn about. I will tell you that he is very matter of fact and confident. He’s not from the south so sometimes that can come across as rude. He wasn’t an a hole at the seminar, but that doesn’t mean he hasn’t been in the past. He is extremely confident in his methods that have produced great results over the years. And he should be. He believes in them whole heartedly.

Selling and suggesting what implements and methods to use are two different things.

They are both selling information. Woods sells the buffalo method. Buxton does not see the value in using a crimper. But they both agree that very little soil disturbance is necessary in most applications.

Does he cover habitat improvement other than just planting? Clover and alfalfa is easy to grow. We started plots just by raking the soil and broadcasting seed. The deer prefer the alfalfa but clover seems to stay green later into the winter. AND they are perennials.

Yes he does.

Sasquatch can you talk about the alfalfa? Sandy soil or clay? What type did you plant? Mow it every 30 days or so?

i went 2 years ago, he covers a lot of topics in detaill. if u plan to take notes, u better be able to write fast. if you browse this site much, 99.9% of it has been covered but i did learn things i did not know previously. it was worth it personally for the 2 pages of notes i took.

Matt how much is Your Seminar gonna cost?😃

Working on it now. Cheaper.

Good Deal!

Even cheaper if you still have the dress picture saved.

Careful!
I’ll charge you extra!

Did you try to get a ticket?

No he screens the applicant list. Won’t let any consultants or bios in. He’s already told Jerremy he couldn’t come, so I’m guilty by association.

Can’t say I blame him. In order to maintain some sense of decorum, you gotta keep the cross dressing riff raff out and you two dang sure fit the bill.

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I thought about trying but…… well, if figured I would not make the cut.

All you need to manage deer and property is time and money. Dont need a seminar for that.

I think knowledge sure helps……Just because someone has a bunch of money doesn’t mean they know what they’re doing when it comes to land and wildlife management

I’ve seen a lot of ppl with money and land make a lot of mistakes without professional guidance. I’m not using a plumber with lots of money to fix my electrical issues, just like you wouldn’t use a dental hygienist with lots of money to perform heart surgery. Habitat management and deer herd management takes more than money.

I think most folks would be surprised……I know my perception of things has changed a lot since I started tracking….You ride by them and you think that because a place has a nice fence and a fancy gate or its own personal caretaker, etc….. that they must have it all figured out…..Its often times not the case though……Its usually someone who made a bunch of money in some other industry and is throwing money at their recreational hunting property without really understanding for real-for real what they’re doing and why……

Precisely.

I only know 4 things for certain about Buxton-

1- He manages some high fence properties and uses some high fence pics to promote his business on facebook
2- He will block you from his facebook page if you simply ask free range or high fence
3- He’s an accomplished trapper of the trash pandas
4- His people skills are questionable at best

I’m amazed at how far behind folks still are on food plot management…..I go to a lot of properties and see a lot of food plots and I couldn’t tell you of a single one off the top of my head where someone is no-tilling and building up nice soil….. I figured that would be a lot farther along by now…..Maybe in another decade….Most places are still just plowing the chit out of piss poor dirt and throwing the 13-13-13 to it…..getting less than mediocre results……A lot of folks are wasting a lot more $$$ each year than the cost of a seminar ticket….Just sayin

How can one bit of Usefulness translate from a High Fence Property to the average free range landowner?

Habitat improvements can, but very little on deer herd management applies, UNLESS you have control of large acreages. Very large. We definitely manage herd dynamics different on fenced properties vs free range. People think you can fence a place and continue to manage like you have been. Can’t do it. Deer harvest is taken to a whole new level once a fence goes up.

If you got money somebody with knowledge is always willing to help. If you ain’t got money you can have all the knowledge in the world

I think if you have a large acreage hi fence with native deer ( which he admits in his seminar some of his properties are) the list would be shorter of what didn’t translate instead of what did.

I attended last year and enjoyed it. I took lots of notes and have referred to them several times over the last year.

We've been doing no till for about 10 years now. Went from having your standard coosa county clay in our food plots to a layer of topsoil so rich and thick that I almost got the tractor stuck in it on a dry day when the drag go hung on a T post.

Nope. It'll still change a bunch. Most high fence properties trap the crap out of predators, get rid of hogs, feed heavily. Fawn survival is exponentially higher and supplemental feeding and habitat management greatly increases the ability to maintain higher deer densities. Question is, which density and ratio are correct for your property and what you want to accomplish and how do you establish and maintain it. Herd is now confined within a finite area with virtually all natural mortality from outside factors being greatly reduced, other than rut mortality. Most of the deer mortality within a fence comes from man and those decisions that man makes become exponentially more important because that high fence prohibits your getting or not getting native replenishment of your herd and genetics from outside sources. How many does should be shot, exactly which bucks can/should be taken and which bucks should be protected at all cost? How many bucks and does do you want to carry within the fence at any given time? Too few bucks, you increase rut stress. To many bucks and you also increase rut stress and rut mortality and start having bucks killing each other and busting up racks, damaging pedicles, etc. They cannot just relocate to another adjoining property to avoid confrontation. Example: You've had your high fence for 5 years and you've got a 165" 4 yr old 10 point that is your best up and comer. You're carrying more bucks than you should and that superstar 10 gets in a fight with a 7 yr old 6 point that breaks his main beam off below the skull plate and that buck either dies from a brain abscess or survives and most likely has a damaged pedicle and never scores high on that side again. Every decision within a fence, comes with consequences, because mother nature is not there to bail you out when you make a bad one.

People can really screw up a high fence in a very short period of time if you dont have someone like Matt (and a few others that are very good at it) to assist in establishing and managing your nutrition, layout, herd dynamics and harvest strategies. It's not a hard topic to learn, but nobody is going to learn it in one session or one or two seasons. I'm sure Buxton has a ton of hands on experience but I'm not so sure that he has any formal training and I'm almost certain that he does not have any formal education in the form a wildlife biology degree, let alone the advanced wildlife degrees that most of the really good wildlife biologists possess, in addition to all of their in the field experience.

That’s what I’m saying. Everything that translates in managing a 5k acre property with no fence would apply to a 5k hi fence as well. The list of things that are not the same would be a shorter list.

Deer densities and sex ratios are site specific on a property with no fence as well as within a fence.

It is farmland not sure what type soil but pretty good if it is used for crops. Plain old alfalfa seed from the elevator, nothing special. Mow it twice a year. Fertilize every other year in the spring, that's it.

In Alabama or Michigan?

Michigan. Deer will paw through a foot of snow to get at it in late winter.

There ya go.

We planted alpha-rack from whitetail institute in sandy soil in Conecuh County. I have planted a ton of their seed, and this was the only thing that failed. Never tried it again, stuck with clover.

That’s exactly where I’m trying to plant it. Close to the sepulga river.

And you can listen to the Kinsey AG soil series podcast or any of the Ag PHD podcasts on soil and get the info for free as far as soil test, pH, base saturation, CEC, Macro and Micro elements, etc. Buy Craig Harpers book when the new edition comes out (the herbicide tables in the appendix are worth the cost alone), Listen to Southern U and Deer University podcasts and you're ahead of the game.

Bulldog 805 may be your best bet. But a really hot dry August is still likely to toast it.

Any idea when his new edition is coming out? I’ve been periodically checking in to see for about a year now and nothing so far. I’d love to have that book!

Supposed to be this year. I want a copy of the new edition as well and I have a copy of the first one.