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Re: Church attire
[Re: deerman24]
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03/10/25 06:01 PM
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Romans 14
As for the one who is weak in faith, welcome him, but not to quarrel over opinions. 2 One person believes he may eat anything, while the weak person eats only vegetables. 3 Let not the one who eats despise the one who abstains, and let not the one who abstains pass judgment on the one who eats, for God has welcomed him. 4 Who are you to pass judgment on the servant of another? It is before his own master[a] that he stands or falls. And he will be upheld, for the Lord is able to make him stand.
5 One person esteems one day as better than another, while another esteems all days alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind. 6 The one who observes the day, observes it in honor of the Lord. The one who eats, eats in honor of the Lord, since he gives thanks to God, while the one who abstains, abstains in honor of the Lord and gives thanks to God. 7 For none of us lives to himself, and none of us dies to himself. 8 For if we live, we live to the Lord, and if we die, we die to the Lord. So then, whether we live or whether we die, we are the Lord's. 9 For to this end Christ died and lived again, that he might be Lord both of the dead and of the living.
10 Why do you pass judgment on your brother? Or you, why do you despise your brother? For we will all stand before the judgment seat of God; 11 for it is written,
āAs I live, says the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess[b] to God.ā
12 So then each of us will give an account of himself to God.
Do Not Cause Another to Stumble 13 Therefore let us not pass judgment on one another any longer, but rather decide never to put a stumbling block or hindrance in the way of a brother. 14 I know and am persuaded in the Lord Jesus that nothing is unclean in itself, but it is unclean for anyone who thinks it unclean. 15 For if your brother is grieved by what you eat, you are no longer walking in love. By what you eat, do not destroy the one for whom Christ died. 16 So do not let what you regard as good be spoken of as evil. 17 For the kingdom of God is not a matter of eating and drinking but of righteousness and peace and joy in the Holy Spirit. 18 Whoever thus serves Christ is acceptable to God and approved by men. 19 So then let us pursue what makes for peace and for mutual upbuilding.
20 Do not, for the sake of food, destroy the work of God. Everything is indeed clean, but it is wrong for anyone to make another stumble by what he eats. 21 It is good not to eat meat or drink wine or do anything that causes your brother to stumble.[c] 22 The faith that you have, keep between yourself and God. Blessed is the one who has no reason to pass judgment on himself for what he approves. 23 But whoever has doubts is condemned if he eats, because the eating is not from faith. For whatever does not proceed from faith is sin.[d]
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Re: Church attire
[Re: deerman24]
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03/10/25 07:15 PM
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Religious topics sure get lot opinions on here . Only one bible.on judgement day donāt think we be asked what we wore to church or even if we went . More a personal connection.
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Re: Church attire
[Re: jwalker77]
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03/10/25 09:14 PM
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BPI you are absolutely correct, the foundation of the law consists of those two things and if you really do those two things, you will keep the other 10. Jesus came to fulfill the law, not to do away with it. The old testament was the schoolmaster. What did the schoolmaster teach? I am God, i changeth not. Explain that one to me. When God decided to change something, he put it in the book. But, if were doing away with the old commandments, i reckon its ok to steal now? What about kill? Can we have another God before him? Who was it decided which rules he still wanted us to keep? We did. And every time we humans are advocating for change, it makes things a little easier on us, dont it. Allows for a little more inclusiion. Gets rid of some of those pesky rules we hate to follow. God never changed. We changed. Thats pretty clear. And i havent said once theres a dress code. I said we should give God our best. We should respect God above tge workplace or datenight. And thats notjust our attire but everything about us. We are supposed to be different than the world. People should be able to look at a crowd and pick out the christians. I bet we are probably closer on this than we think we are. And possibly speaking about 2 different subjects. First, I agree that God is unchanging. But the new covenant is not about Him changing, its about the way we approach God has changed. And there is no doubt that it changed when Jesus rose from the dead. I know you know this, but legalism of any kind is a slippery slope. That's all I'm saying. Think abou it. Should pastors dress like they did in Exodus 28 ? If you follow the legalistic road to its end, that's where you arrive. Also, I'm not arguing that mankind has attempted to water down God's word. I agree with that. But on this particular subject it's a moot point, other than provocative clothing.
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Re: Church attire
[Re: deerman24]
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03/10/25 09:15 PM
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Wow - i only got about 1/3 of the way thru! I use to really dress up when i was younger going to church. Now i wear jeans or kaki amd golf shirt. Neither will get me to heaven and back in the day flip flops are open toe were common. Its more about what is in your heart. No where does the Bible say wear your best š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£ and being a good wittness has everything to do about how you act and treat people with love
It says give off the top or give your first fruits and not the last. That has nothing to do with what you wear. Wear sometiing respectable without the crotch torn out. He wants you to give your best effort in your walk. We donāt hav a boy scout dress code š¤£š¤£š¤£
I out!!
Hunt the wind - leave it better than you found it - love your neighbor as you love your self We need prayer for our country now more than ever
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Re: Church attire
[Re: bill]
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03/10/25 09:17 PM
03/10/25 09:17 PM
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Romans 14
As for the one who is weak in faith, welcome him, but not to quarrel over opinions. 2 One person believes he may eat anything, while the weak person eats only vegetables. 3 Let not the one who eats despise the one who abstains, and let not the one who abstains pass judgment on the one who eats, for God has welcomed him. 4 Who are you to pass judgment on the servant of another? It is before his own master[a] that he stands or falls. And he will be upheld, for the Lord is able to make him stand.
5 One person esteems one day as better than another, while another esteems all days alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind. 6 The one who observes the day, observes it in honor of the Lord. The one who eats, eats in honor of the Lord, since he gives thanks to God, while the one who abstains, abstains in honor of the Lord and gives thanks to God. 7 For none of us lives to himself, and none of us dies to himself. 8 For if we live, we live to the Lord, and if we die, we die to the Lord. So then, whether we live or whether we die, we are the Lord's. 9 For to this end Christ died and lived again, that he might be Lord both of the dead and of the living.
10 Why do you pass judgment on your brother? Or you, why do you despise your brother? For we will all stand before the judgment seat of God; 11 for it is written,
āAs I live, says the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess[b] to God.ā
12 So then each of us will give an account of himself to God.
Do Not Cause Another to Stumble 13 Therefore let us not pass judgment on one another any longer, but rather decide never to put a stumbling block or hindrance in the way of a brother. 14 I know and am persuaded in the Lord Jesus that nothing is unclean in itself, but it is unclean for anyone who thinks it unclean. 15 For if your brother is grieved by what you eat, you are no longer walking in love. By what you eat, do not destroy the one for whom Christ died. 16 So do not let what you regard as good be spoken of as evil. 17 For the kingdom of God is not a matter of eating and drinking but of righteousness and peace and joy in the Holy Spirit. 18 Whoever thus serves Christ is acceptable to God and approved by men. 19 So then let us pursue what makes for peace and for mutual upbuilding.
20 Do not, for the sake of food, destroy the work of God. Everything is indeed clean, but it is wrong for anyone to make another stumble by what he eats. 21 It is good not to eat meat or drink wine or do anything that causes your brother to stumble.[c] 22 The faith that you have, keep between yourself and God. Blessed is the one who has no reason to pass judgment on himself for what he approves. 23 But whoever has doubts is condemned if he eats, because the eating is not from faith. For whatever does not proceed from faith is sin.[d] Amen
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Re: Church attire
[Re: BPI]
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03/10/25 09:33 PM
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jwalker77
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BPI you are absolutely correct, the foundation of the law consists of those two things and if you really do those two things, you will keep the other 10. Jesus came to fulfill the law, not to do away with it. The old testament was the schoolmaster. What did the schoolmaster teach? I am God, i changeth not. Explain that one to me. When God decided to change something, he put it in the book. But, if were doing away with the old commandments, i reckon its ok to steal now? What about kill? Can we have another God before him? Who was it decided which rules he still wanted us to keep? We did. And every time we humans are advocating for change, it makes things a little easier on us, dont it. Allows for a little more inclusiion. Gets rid of some of those pesky rules we hate to follow. God never changed. We changed. Thats pretty clear. And i havent said once theres a dress code. I said we should give God our best. We should respect God above tge workplace or datenight. And thats notjust our attire but everything about us. We are supposed to be different than the world. People should be able to look at a crowd and pick out the christians. I bet we are probably closer on this than we think we are. And possibly speaking about 2 different subjects. First, I agree that God is unchanging. But the new covenant is not about Him changing, its about the way we approach God has changed. And there is no doubt that it changed when Jesus rose from the dead. I know you know this, but legalism of any kind is a slippery slope. That's all I'm saying. Think abou it. Should pastors dress like they did in Exodus 28 ? If you follow the legalistic road to its end, that's where you arrive. Also, I'm not arguing that mankind has attempted to water down God's word. I agree with that. But on this particular subject it's a moot point, other than provocative clothing. I think alot of consideration should be given to the change in the way people dress now compared to 2000yrs ago. And im not promoting a dress code at all. Just giving God your best, out of respect. And i agree with Bills accessment as well. At my church, men wear pants and women wear dresses. Its always been that way. Visitors sometimes go outside of that and i doubt anything has ever been said to them about it. But 100% of the time, if they hang around, they eventually submit. And there is no dress code, its just always been that way. Ive visited churchs plenty of times whose dress was more lax and i would never tell them there was anything wrong with their way. The bottom line is i cant see in another mans heart and i cant see in another mans closet. But i believe we should give God our best, in everything. That is absolutely not common these days. Society is more about that he will accept me the way i am way of thinking. I personally believe we will be required to submit to God, not the other way around. And alot of people wear nicer clothes than me but some wear less nice. But i do go to worship as presentable as possible.
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Re: Church attire
[Re: deerman24]
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03/10/25 09:44 PM
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I will wear khakis or jeans to church, with a nice black collarless tee-shirt and a sport jacket over the top of it. I wear the jacket every time I go as I carry concealed in an OWB holster every time I'm there.
My clothes are clean, ironed, and in good condition but I think God is much more concerned with the condition of my heart than he is with what I have on my body. If my heart and mind is not open, focused on edifying/lifting up Him, is full of hate, filth, and sin, then I'm sure he is not pleased with me or my church attendance, no matter what I am wearing.
The condition of the heart matters the most...
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Re: Church attire
[Re: deerman24]
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Yesterday at 04:54 AM
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I find it funny that many here were upset when Obama dressed down in the White House and Oval Office
āSocialism only works in two places: Heaven where they don't need it and hell where they already have it.ā ā Ronald Reagan
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Re: Church attire
[Re: jwalker77]
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Yesterday at 06:40 AM
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Bowtechdan, i would 100% rather see that fella come in church in his workclothes than go home and skip church because he didnt have time to change. In that case, that man was doing the best he could and chose to go worship God when he was likely pretty tired from working all day, and had a really good excuse not to. That absolutely does show where his heart is and how much God means to him. Agree.
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Re: Church attire
[Re: deerman24]
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Yesterday at 07:36 AM
Yesterday at 07:36 AM
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Driveby
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My thoughts are.......do what you can. The fellow showing up straight from work in his dirty work clothes is doing what he can. His priority was getting there instead of missing for the sake of looking good. Been there myself. I have to wonder though.....the same folks that say they wear what they want because that is what's comfortable, i.e. shorts and flip flops.....would show up to their granny's funeral or their daughter's wedding dressed the same way? Are they the same people who, as cartervj and I mentioned, bashed Obama for dressing down in the White House and Fetterman for wearing sweat pants and a hoodie to the inauguration. What's more important to you? That's a choice you alone have to make.
The true mark of a man is not how he conducts himself during times of prosperity, but how he conducts himself during times of adversity.
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Re: Church attire
[Re: BowtechDan]
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Yesterday at 07:48 AM
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Bowtechdan, i would 100% rather see that fella come in church in his workclothes than go home and skip church because he didnt have time to change. In that case, that man was doing the best he could and chose to go worship God when he was likely pretty tired from working all day, and had a really good excuse not to. That absolutely does show where his heart is and how much God means to him. Agree. Yep, we have a lady that's a nurse, she works the night shift at the Hospital . If she's just got off work , she sometimes comes in her nursing clothes . If she comes to Sunday night she may have them on as she'll be going to work later. If she's not working that weekend , she dresses like the other ladies. My Grandpa wore the old school Khaki pants and shirt to Church and everywhere else . I reckon that's all he had as I never saw him in anything else . My Grandma did make sure they were his best , clean and ironed for Church.
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Re: Church attire
[Re: deerman24]
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Yesterday at 08:33 AM
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Its a shame this is a subject, these judgments from supposed brothers and sisters.
Matthew 20:1-16 Is another hurdle of these same types.
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Re: Church attire
[Re: Driveby]
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Yesterday at 08:42 AM
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My thoughts are.......do what you can. The fellow showing up straight from work in his dirty work clothes is doing what he can. His priority was getting there instead of missing for the sake of looking good. Been there myself. I have to wonder though.....the same folks that say they wear what they want because that is what's comfortable, i.e. shorts and flip flops.....would show up to their granny's funeral or their daughter's wedding dressed the same way? Are they the same people who, as cartervj and I mentioned, bashed Obama for dressing down in the White House and Fetterman for wearing sweat pants and a hoodie to the inauguration. What's more important to you? That's a choice you alone have to make. I donāt think attire shows importance. The reason we dress the way we do at funerals and weddings is due to traditions. Iāve been to a few weddings at the beach. We wore shorts and flip flops. Those traditions were established by men, not God. I believe the āSunday Bestā is a tradition established by men as well. And itās ok if people like that tradition and want to go to a church that adheres to it. Nothing wrong with that at all. But I donāt believe that not wearing fancy clothes to the church service means you are disrespecting God. He is with us Al the time. Even when we nekkid
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Re: Church attire
[Re: JohnnyLoco]
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Yesterday at 08:50 AM
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Boy has his thread ran off the track. Church dress is a relative subject. We owe it out of respect to the lord to wear decent and respectable attire. What that is for me may be different for you. I was a deacon at a Southern Baptist Church about 20 years ago. On a Sunday night service we had a couple that had never came to the church before walk the isle. Their cloths looked like they lived on the streets and they Reeked with BO. They said they had not ever been to church but felt something pulling them in to join.. The good Baptist were appalled!! The deacons called a meeting about this couple doesnāt belong in this church. I let them ramble and finally said my pieceā¦I told them if any of them felt like this couple was beneath them, Iām at the wrong churchā¦I asked them Would Jesus say they didnāt belong here? Needless to say, my tenure as a deacon and member of the Southern Baptist didnāt last long after that. Show me the one and only New Testament verse that loosely supports the āowe it to the Lord to wear decent attireā (capital āLā decon ) šš¤£š While you are at it show the verse that supports the opposite opinion from folk that look down on other. Its close to the place that addresses knuckle heads that think they own a particular pew šš¤£šš¤£ Come on decon, you can do it. šš¤£šš¤£ Here is the dress code for women and men 1st Tim 2:9-10 1st Peter 3:3-4 This is not all but there is absolutely nothing about getting all dressed up I wear a Stetson hat all the time and yes on Sunday too I feel my jeans, sports jacket, boots and hat are sufficient and Iāve never been convicted over this way of dressing
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