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Re: For Dryfire, what really happened on jan 6
[Re: jwalker77]
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03/22/25 09:18 PM
03/22/25 09:18 PM
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Pwyse
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Honest question. Would everyone feel the same way about Jan 6 if it had been democrats that came into the capital building?
I’ve seen videos where it looked peaceful. And I’ve seen videos where I am embarrassed to see Trump flags and Trump hats on people.
I know one thing, if you are not allowed to go into a building, it is wrong to go into a building. Plain and simple. Were they treated fairly after breaching the capital? Absolutely not. Are democrat protestors treated differently after a violent protest? Absolutely and that is not right. But I don’t think acting like them is the right thing to do. Just my opinion. I’m sure most on here will disagree and that’s ok I have a couple of questions for you. Why weren't the liberals arrested and charged with the same charges when they went in the capital? Why did Trump issue the jan 6 people pardons? Youre right. Democraps did it too and there wasnt much said about it. Democrats have done a lot of bad things. That don’t mean that republicans get to do bad things. I want the party that best represents my values to uphold integrity and honesty and follow the laws. I know that is a pipe dream but that doesn’t mean that I can’t stand on those values.
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Re: For Dryfire, what really happened on jan 6
[Re: jwalker77]
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03/22/25 09:25 PM
03/22/25 09:25 PM
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Pwyse
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Pwyse, are you also denying that bidun won the primary? How was it harris got on the ballot? What primary did he win? That dont get talked about a whole lot either, does it? And our govt has pretty much controlled what gets talked about on a large scale. Thats pretty clear. Im no hard core republican. I agree with the sentiment that our govt, as a whole, is dirty. I am a Trump supporter, in a big way. And i think his administration is tge best chance our country has right now I think we have told you before, the Democratic Party and the Republican Party can nominate whoever they want for president. The nominee does not have to win the primary. I also am a big Trump supporter and I agree that his administration is the best choice we have as Americans right now. And I think he is a really good choice. Especially on the economy and the border. I don’t always agree with everything he says or does, but I believe he has American’s best interests at heart. I am a hard core conservative. I have conservative values. But I don’t hold the Republican Party in high regard because it is full of politicians.
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Re: For Dryfire, what really happened on jan 6
[Re: Geeb]
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03/22/25 09:29 PM
03/22/25 09:29 PM
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Pwyse
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[quote=Pwyse]Honest question. Would everyone feel the same way about Jan 6 if it had been democrats that came into the capital building?
I’ve seen videos where it looked peaceful. And I’ve seen videos where I am embarrassed to see Trump flags and Trump hats on people.
I know one thing, if you are not allowed to go into a building, it is wrong to go into a building. Plain and simple. Were they treated fairly after breaching the capital? Absolutely not. Are democrat protestors treated differently after a violent protest? Absolutely and that is not right. But I don’t think acting like them is the right thing to do. Just my opinion. I’m sure most on here will disagree and that’s ok I have a couple of questions for you. Why weren't the liberals arrested and charged with the same charges when they went in the capital? Why did Trump issue the jan 6 people pardons? [/ I didn’t know that liberals went in the capital on Jan 6th. If they did and didn’t get arrested then they should have been. But Trump should be able to prosecute the ones that did now correct?
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Re: For Dryfire, what really happened on jan 6
[Re: Pwyse]
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03/22/25 09:32 PM
03/22/25 09:32 PM
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jwalker77
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[quote=Pwyse]Honest question. Would everyone feel the same way about Jan 6 if it had been democrats that came into the capital building?
I’ve seen videos where it looked peaceful. And I’ve seen videos where I am embarrassed to see Trump flags and Trump hats on people.
I know one thing, if you are not allowed to go into a building, it is wrong to go into a building. Plain and simple. Were they treated fairly after breaching the capital? Absolutely not. Are democrat protestors treated differently after a violent protest? Absolutely and that is not right. But I don’t think acting like them is the right thing to do. Just my opinion. I’m sure most on here will disagree and that’s ok I have a couple of questions for you. Why weren't the liberals arrested and charged with the same charges when they went in the capital? Why did Trump issue the jan 6 people pardons? [/ I didn’t know that liberals went in the capital on Jan 6th. If they did and didn’t get arrested then they should have been. But Trump should be able to prosecute the ones that did now correct? It wasnt jan 6. It was another day
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Re: For Dryfire, what really happened on jan 6
[Re: Pwyse]
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03/22/25 10:00 PM
03/22/25 10:00 PM
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cartervj
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It also depends on what video you have seen and at what gate or what door. There were definitely some doors opened. There were definitely some gates and doors pushed in by the mob that were not opened. There was definitely some violence against police officers. Were the violent ones plants? I don’t know. There seem to have been a lot of them if they were all plants. It’s not hard to whip up a highly charged group into a frenzy. Really easy actually and it d bet that’s what those plants did.
“Socialism only works in two places: Heaven where they don't need it and hell where they already have it.” ― Ronald Reagan
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Re: For Dryfire, what really happened on jan 6
[Re: cartervj]
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03/23/25 07:46 AM
03/23/25 07:46 AM
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Pwyse
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It also depends on what video you have seen and at what gate or what door. There were definitely some doors opened. There were definitely some gates and doors pushed in by the mob that were not opened. There was definitely some violence against police officers. Were the violent ones plants? I don’t know. There seem to have been a lot of them if they were all plants. It’s not hard to whip up a highly charged group into a frenzy. Really easy actually and it d bet that’s what those plants did. You are right about that. It isn’t hard. But each person is responsible for their own actions. Just because someone talks you into something illegal doesn’t make it ok.
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Re: For Dryfire, what really happened on jan 6
[Re: jwalker77]
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03/23/25 07:49 AM
03/23/25 07:49 AM
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Pwyse
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[quote=Pwyse]Honest question. Would everyone feel the same way about Jan 6 if it had been democrats that came into the capital building?
I’ve seen videos where it looked peaceful. And I’ve seen videos where I am embarrassed to see Trump flags and Trump hats on people.
I know one thing, if you are not allowed to go into a building, it is wrong to go into a building. Plain and simple. Were they treated fairly after breaching the capital? Absolutely not. Are democrat protestors treated differently after a violent protest? Absolutely and that is not right. But I don’t think acting like them is the right thing to do. Just my opinion. I’m sure most on here will disagree and that’s ok I have a couple of questions for you. Why weren't the liberals arrested and charged with the same charges when they went in the capital? Why did Trump issue the jan 6 people pardons? [/ I didn’t know that liberals went in the capital on Jan 6th. If they did and didn’t get arrested then they should have been. But Trump should be able to prosecute the ones that did now correct? It wasnt jan 6. It was another day I probably don’t know about it because it was covered up by the dens. But I still don’t understand what the question has to do with what we are talking about. Just because someone else does something wrong and gets away with it doesn’t mean that I can do something and get away with it.
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Re: For Dryfire, what really happened on jan 6
[Re: Pwyse]
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03/23/25 08:00 AM
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cartervj
Freak of Nature
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It also depends on what video you have seen and at what gate or what door. There were definitely some doors opened. There were definitely some gates and doors pushed in by the mob that were not opened. There was definitely some violence against police officers. Were the violent ones plants? I don’t know. There seem to have been a lot of them if they were all plants. It’s not hard to whip up a highly charged group into a frenzy. Really easy actually and it d bet that’s what those plants did. You are right about that. It isn’t hard. But each person is responsible for their own actions. Just because someone talks you into something illegal doesn’t make it ok. Not giving anyone a pass, but the ones doing the direct agitation and especially the ones at the top that financed and pushed out should be held to a higher culpability. No different than the Summer of Love agitators and now the Tesla terrorist
“Socialism only works in two places: Heaven where they don't need it and hell where they already have it.” ― Ronald Reagan
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Re: For Dryfire, what really happened on jan 6
[Re: Pwyse]
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03/23/25 08:51 AM
03/23/25 08:51 AM
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Geeb
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[quote=Pwyse]Honest question. Would everyone feel the same way about Jan 6 if it had been democrats that came into the capital building?
I’ve seen videos where it looked peaceful. And I’ve seen videos where I am embarrassed to see Trump flags and Trump hats on people.
I know one thing, if you are not allowed to go into a building, it is wrong to go into a building. Plain and simple. Were they treated fairly after breaching the capital? Absolutely not. Are democrat protestors treated differently after a violent protest? Absolutely and that is not right. But I don’t think acting like them is the right thing to do. Just my opinion. I’m sure most on here will disagree and that’s ok I have a couple of questions for you. Why weren't the liberals arrested and charged with the same charges when they went in the capital? Why did Trump issue the jan 6 people pardons? [/ I didn’t know that liberals went in the capital on Jan 6th. If they did and didn’t get arrested then they should have been. But Trump should be able to prosecute the ones that did now correct? It wasnt jan 6. It was another day I probably don’t know about it because it was covered up by the dens. But I still don’t understand what the question has to do with what we are talking about. Just because someone else does something wrong and gets away with it doesn’t mean that I can do something and get away with it. Agreed. However, without equitable application of the law (across all spectrums), do we have actual law?
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Re: For Dryfire, what really happened on jan 6
[Re: Pwyse]
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03/23/25 09:47 AM
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Geeb
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Geeb, I don’t think that an unequal application of the law means we have no law at all. It just means that the people applying it are wrong.
Take speeding for an example. Sometimes cops let speeders go. They don’t even pull them over. Sometimes they write them tickets. That doesn’t mean that we shouldn’t follow the speed limits. Of course, I speed. Especially on the interstate where I mostly travel. It absolutely does when there is a clear delineation of whom gets to walk and whom doesn't. Selective enforcement is completely counter to a just judicial system.
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Re: For Dryfire, what really happened on jan 6
[Re: jwalker77]
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03/23/25 10:03 AM
03/23/25 10:03 AM
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goodman_hunter
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There was definitely some Antifa there on jan6. I seen proof before jan6 that they planned on showing up. It first showed up in a direct action call they put out. A little later there was chatter about them planning on donning trump gear. The day of, I seen vids posted of them changing into trump gear. I recognized some of them from watching riot footage daily from the previous year. Afterwards I seen photos of lefties at jan6.
The Republican Q bs played a big part in pushing the insurrection narrative as well. It was just explained differently.
They laid a trap and were lucky it wasn't worse. They expected it to be worse. They went with their narrative anyways, that's why it looked stupid.
Last edited by goodman_hunter; 03/23/25 10:04 AM.
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Re: For Dryfire, what really happened on jan 6
[Re: goodman_hunter]
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03/24/25 06:09 AM
03/24/25 06:09 AM
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Pwyse
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There was definitely some Antifa there on jan6. I seen proof before jan6 that they planned on showing up. It first showed up in a direct action call they put out. A little later there was chatter about them planning on donning trump gear. The day of, I seen vids posted of them changing into trump gear. I recognized some of them from watching riot footage daily from the previous year. Afterwards I seen photos of lefties at jan6.
The Republican Q bs played a big part in pushing the insurrection narrative as well. It was just explained differently.
They laid a trap and were lucky it wasn't worse. They expected it to be worse. They went with their narrative anyways, that's why it looked stupid. Well if that’s the case, Trump didn’t see that evidence of it. Because it would have been a lot easier for him to show that evidence publicly and leave them locked up instead of pardoning them.
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Re: For Dryfire, what really happened on jan 6
[Re: Pwyse]
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03/24/25 09:11 AM
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goodman_hunter
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There was definitely some Antifa there on jan6. I seen proof before jan6 that they planned on showing up. It first showed up in a direct action call they put out. A little later there was chatter about them planning on donning trump gear. The day of, I seen vids posted of them changing into trump gear. I recognized some of them from watching riot footage daily from the previous year. Afterwards I seen photos of lefties at jan6.
The Republican Q bs played a big part in pushing the insurrection narrative as well. It was just explained differently.
They laid a trap and were lucky it wasn't worse. They expected it to be worse. They went with their narrative anyways, that's why it looked stupid. Well if that’s the case, Trump didn’t see that evidence of it. Because it would have been a lot easier for him to show that evidence publicly and leave them locked up instead of pardoning them. they didnt lock up the antifa or their snitches/informants like ray epps or the proud boys leader.
"A moment of realization is worth a thousand prayers"
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Re: For Dryfire, what really happened on jan 6
[Re: jwalker77]
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03/24/25 10:24 AM
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She says on Jan 10 she gave a scheduled speech and didn't even mention Jan 6. because it wasn't a big deal to her. ummm...sure.
She didn't know who was putting on the speech display because her 'team' handles that. uhhhh...ok.
By the end of day Jan 6th everyone knew the deal (wrong or right). She didn't mention it on Jan 10 because she was trying to fly under the radar and not be associated.
She gave a megaphone speech as people ignored her and milled around the white house.
She's a quack sniffing her own farts.
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