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Federal judges
#4307228
04/04/25 05:12 PM
04/04/25 05:12 PM
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woodduck
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Can congress not put a stop to them blocking trumps agenda? Cut off their money? Impeach? We can see the plan it’s the same one going after trump before he was re-elected. Out of control judge shopping to push the lefts agenda and put a stop to what’s right and in America’s best interest. Last question is congress just letting it happen because 98% are just buying time till trump is out of office and they can all just stay in office business as usual robbing you and I the hardworking American taxpayer. I think it can be stopped tomorrow if congress wanted it to stop. I guess one day We The People will have to deal with it looks like if their is enough balls swinging by then to make it happen.
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Re: Federal judges
[Re: woodduck]
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04/04/25 05:44 PM
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deerman24
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whow, they are blocking everything, even removal of gang members that are committing crimes. this is OK? men in women sports is ok? Come on man
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Re: Federal judges
[Re: deerman24]
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04/04/25 05:51 PM
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Michael256
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whow, they are blocking everything, even removal of gang members that are committing crimes. this is OK? men in women sports is ok? Come on man Again, if you replace the name “Donald Trump” with “Joe Biden” or “Barrack Obama” “calling for federal judges to be dealt with for obstructing the administration” and you don’t like how that sounds, well.. Plus.. they deported a non-gang El Salvador national who was here legally on asylum and now they say they “can’t get him back.” They claimed he was a gang member, turns out he wasn’t. Maybe if people were given a little due process..
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Re: Federal judges
[Re: woodduck]
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04/04/25 05:56 PM
04/04/25 05:56 PM
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woodduck
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Re: Federal judges
[Re: woodduck]
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04/04/25 06:36 PM
04/04/25 06:36 PM
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Michael256
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I’m just saying.. imagine if Biden had went on a rampage and sought to impeach all of Trumps 200+ judges he appointed, and removed them. If that would upset you, but Trump doing the same wouldn’t.. there is a name for that. I’m just going by the constitution and what the founding fathers said. It sucks for Trump and you but it sucked for me too. What’s good for the goose is good for the gander though.
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Re: Federal judges
[Re: Michael256]
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04/04/25 07:53 PM
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That’s literally the purpose of the separation of powers and checks and balances between branches. I suspect nary an Aldeer member cried when Biden’s student loan forgiveness was blocked by a Federal judge, as well as his overtime expansion that would have given skilled salary employees like me the chance to get overtime.
No one man is supposed to have all the power, that’s by the forefathers design. They literally fought off a tyrant king, so they put many, many stumbling blocks for tyrants in the architecture of America’s structure of government.
The hissy fits over judges kind of reminds me of playing something like Monopoly or Uno with a child. When the game isn’t going their way, suddenly they start spouting all kinds of rules that you’ve never heard of, that suspiciously only benefit them. But the moment the tables have turned and you try to use one of those rules, suddenly it’s not valid again. Biden's loan forgiveness went before SCOTUS and was found unconstitutional. But, all these rulings against Trump's EOs by lower level progressive judges are not what our Founders envisioned when they created our Constitution and the Seperation of Powers concept Nor would they have agreed with the concept of "judge shopping". Here's Schumer admitting that he and the Dems appointed judges with the sole purpose of hamstringing Trump's agenda. https://youtu.be/ddRD2he3gA8?feature=shared
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Re: Federal judges
[Re: woodduck]
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04/04/25 08:15 PM
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Michael256
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I mean is that not what Trump did when he appointed almost half the Supreme Court? AFTER everyone made a big controversy about Obama trying to pick a judge on his way out too. Let’s face it, a judge with an R is going to follow the R agenda for the most part. One with a D is going to follow the D party for the most part. Whoever happens to have the right judge in there at the right time wins and that’s the breaks. If he wasn’t trying to rule by executive order, he wouldn’t have this problem. By and large a lot of this stuff needs to go through Congress. Let’s not forget Trump heavily criticized Obama for the amount of executive orders he signed, then turned around and wrote nearly as many in 4 years as Obama did in 8, and will probably outstrip that this term by a large margin. Again .. reminds me of playing something like Monopoly or Uno with a child. When the game isn’t going their way, suddenly they start spouting all kinds of rules that you’ve never heard of, that suspiciously only benefit them. But the moment the tables have turned and you try to use one of those rules, suddenly it’s not valid again.
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Re: Federal judges
[Re: Michael256]
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04/04/25 10:10 PM
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I mean is that not what Trump did when he appointed almost half the Supreme Court? AFTER everyone made a big controversy about Obama trying to pick a judge on his way out too. Let’s face it, a judge with an R is going to follow the R agenda for the most part. One with a D is going to follow the D party for the most part. Whoever happens to have the right judge in there at the right time wins and that’s the breaks. If he wasn’t trying to rule by executive order, he wouldn’t have this problem. By and large a lot of this stuff needs to go through Congress. Let’s not forget Trump heavily criticized Obama for the amount of executive orders he signed, then turned around and wrote nearly as many in 4 years as Obama did in 8, and will probably outstrip that this term by a large margin. Again .. reminds me of playing something like Monopoly or Uno with a child. When the game isn’t going their way, suddenly they start spouting all kinds of rules that you’ve never heard of, that suspiciously only benefit them. But the moment the tables have turned and you try to use one of those rules, suddenly it’s not valid again. Have you heard of chief justice John Roberts?
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Re: Federal judges
[Re: CeeHawk37]
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04/04/25 10:13 PM
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In Biden’s loan forgiveness EO, judges cited particular constitutional issues with said EO. The briefs the judges entered as to why they were stopping that EO cited case law and the articles of the constitution that they believed he had run afoul of. In the Trump cases they issued universal injunctions on the basis that the constitution may have been violated but did not cite any existing case law nor the particular articles of the constitution that he allegedly violated. Briefs in the Biden case were many pages long with actual legal arguments. In the Trump cases they have been maybe two pages long with no legal explanation as to why the injunction was issued. They are not the same. To act like they are is either ignorant or just straight up cheerleading for the opposition party. Not to mention half of the universal injunctions have major issues with the court they were filed in or failed to even address legal standing. In the event the judiciary willingly and knowingly oversteps far beyond their bounds, impeachment was written into the constitution as the remedy. These judges are supposed to be impartial regardless of who they were appointed by. These district judges have chosen to become political with these rulings they know will not be upheld and they can’t even cite what part of the constitution is being violated. Impeachment is the political remedy for when judges become political. The timeline is a lot different on the issues Trump is trying to EO vs Biden* though. Biden’s student loan forgiveness went through many months or years of being planned. They had the time to do such. With Trump, he’s blitzing. “I’m gonna use this war time law in peacetime to deport people I think should go, with no due process.. starting.. now.” Or “I’m gonna block these funds and cancel these contracts that Congress legally provisioned starting .. now.” So yeah it’s no surprise the judges are like “wait, no. Hold the **** up.” because if he’s doing something unlawful like shutting down a whole agency he doesn’t have the authority to do, you can’t wait months or years to be like “you didn’t have the power to do that” because by then the damage is long since done, and that organization or those people are gone.
Last edited by Michael256; 04/04/25 10:29 PM. Reason: Corrected a word or two
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Re: Federal judges
[Re: Michael256]
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04/04/25 10:39 PM
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In Biden’s loan forgiveness EO, judges cited particular constitutional issues with said EO. The briefs the judges entered as to why they were stopping that EO cited case law and the articles of the constitution that they believed he had run afoul of. In the Trump cases they issued universal injunctions on the basis that the constitution may have been violated but did not cite any existing case law nor the particular articles of the constitution that he allegedly violated. Briefs in the Biden case were many pages long with actual legal arguments. In the Trump cases they have been maybe two pages long with no legal explanation as to why the injunction was issued. They are not the same. To act like they are is either ignorant or just straight up cheerleading for the opposition party. Not to mention half of the universal injunctions have major issues with the court they were filed in or failed to even address legal standing. In the event the judiciary willingly and knowingly oversteps far beyond their bounds, impeachment was written into the constitution as the remedy. These judges are supposed to be impartial regardless of who they were appointed by. These district judges have chosen to become political with these rulings they know will not be upheld and they can’t even cite what part of the constitution is being violated. Impeachment is the political remedy for when judges become political. The timeline is a lot different on the issues Trump is trying to EO vs Biden* though. Biden’s student loan forgiveness went through many months or years of being planned. They had the time to do such. With Trump, he’s blitzing. “I’m gonna use this war time law in peacetime to deport people I think should go, with no due process.. starting.. now.” Or “I’m gonna block these funds and cancel these contracts that Congress legally provisioned starting .. now.” So yeah it’s no surprise the judges are like “wait, no. Hold the **** up.” because if he’s doing something unlawful like shutting down a whole agency he doesn’t have the authority to do, you can’t wait months or years to be like “you didn’t have the power to do that” because by then the damage is long since done, and that organization or those people are gone. Did you have problem with biden letting all the illegals in the country in the first place? perhaps the judges should've spoken up while our country was being INVADED.
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Re: Federal judges
[Re: Geeb]
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04/04/25 10:43 PM
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Michael256
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In Biden’s loan forgiveness EO, judges cited particular constitutional issues with said EO. The briefs the judges entered as to why they were stopping that EO cited case law and the articles of the constitution that they believed he had run afoul of. In the Trump cases they issued universal injunctions on the basis that the constitution may have been violated but did not cite any existing case law nor the particular articles of the constitution that he allegedly violated. Briefs in the Biden case were many pages long with actual legal arguments. In the Trump cases they have been maybe two pages long with no legal explanation as to why the injunction was issued. They are not the same. To act like they are is either ignorant or just straight up cheerleading for the opposition party. Not to mention half of the universal injunctions have major issues with the court they were filed in or failed to even address legal standing. In the event the judiciary willingly and knowingly oversteps far beyond their bounds, impeachment was written into the constitution as the remedy. These judges are supposed to be impartial regardless of who they were appointed by. These district judges have chosen to become political with these rulings they know will not be upheld and they can’t even cite what part of the constitution is being violated. Impeachment is the political remedy for when judges become political. The timeline is a lot different on the issues Trump is trying to EO vs Biden* though. Biden’s student loan forgiveness went through many months or years of being planned. They had the time to do such. With Trump, he’s blitzing. “I’m gonna use this war time law in peacetime to deport people I think should go, with no due process.. starting.. now.” Or “I’m gonna block these funds and cancel these contracts that Congress legally provisioned starting .. now.” So yeah it’s no surprise the judges are like “wait, no. Hold the **** up.” because if he’s doing something unlawful like shutting down a whole agency he doesn’t have the authority to do, you can’t wait months or years to be like “you didn’t have the power to do that” because by then the damage is long since done, and that organization or those people are gone. Did you have problem with biden letting all the illegals in the country in the first place? perhaps the judges should've spoken up while our country was being INVADED. I mean theoretically your whole argument is shot by the fact that if Biden let them in, that would make them not illegal. And that is happening a lot. I see people who said “I don’t mind if they come here legally!” Then cheer as a bunch of refugees and asylum seekers (which is a legal status btw) get their legal status revoked or overturned and people who were previously legally are now told they have 30 days to self deport, and then people cheer “yeah, get those illegals out!” It’s not like Biden was standing at the border gate letting people with no papers come in. Biden actually deported more people than Trump did in his first administration. And in that same turn, even Obama deported more people than Trump. https://docs.house.gov/meetings/GO/GO00/20200109/110349/HHRG-116-GO00-20200109-SD007.pdf
Last edited by Michael256; 04/04/25 10:48 PM.
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Re: Federal judges
[Re: Michael256]
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04/05/25 05:39 AM
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Geeb
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In Biden’s loan forgiveness EO, judges cited particular constitutional issues with said EO. The briefs the judges entered as to why they were stopping that EO cited case law and the articles of the constitution that they believed he had run afoul of. In the Trump cases they issued universal injunctions on the basis that the constitution may have been violated but did not cite any existing case law nor the particular articles of the constitution that he allegedly violated. Briefs in the Biden case were many pages long with actual legal arguments. In the Trump cases they have been maybe two pages long with no legal explanation as to why the injunction was issued. They are not the same. To act like they are is either ignorant or just straight up cheerleading for the opposition party. Not to mention half of the universal injunctions have major issues with the court they were filed in or failed to even address legal standing. In the event the judiciary willingly and knowingly oversteps far beyond their bounds, impeachment was written into the constitution as the remedy. These judges are supposed to be impartial regardless of who they were appointed by. These district judges have chosen to become political with these rulings they know will not be upheld and they can’t even cite what part of the constitution is being violated. Impeachment is the political remedy for when judges become political. The timeline is a lot different on the issues Trump is trying to EO vs Biden* though. Biden’s student loan forgiveness went through many months or years of being planned. They had the time to do such. With Trump, he’s blitzing. “I’m gonna use this war time law in peacetime to deport people I think should go, with no due process.. starting.. now.” Or “I’m gonna block these funds and cancel these contracts that Congress legally provisioned starting .. now.” So yeah it’s no surprise the judges are like “wait, no. Hold the **** up.” because if he’s doing something unlawful like shutting down a whole agency he doesn’t have the authority to do, you can’t wait months or years to be like “you didn’t have the power to do that” because by then the damage is long since done, and that organization or those people are gone. Did you have problem with biden letting all the illegals in the country in the first place? perhaps the judges should've spoken up while our country was being INVADED. I mean theoretically your whole argument is shot by the fact that if Biden let them in, that would make them not illegal. And that is happening a lot. I see people who said “I don’t mind if they come here legally!” Then cheer as a bunch of refugees and asylum seekers (which is a legal status btw) get their legal status revoked or overturned and people who were previously legally are now told they have 30 days to self deport, and then people cheer “yeah, get those illegals out!” It’s not like Biden was standing at the border gate letting people with no papers come in. Biden actually deported more people than Trump did in his first administration. And in that same turn, even Obama deported more people than Trump. https://docs.house.gov/meetings/GO/GO00/20200109/110349/HHRG-116-GO00-20200109-SD007.pdfNo, not true at all. An official allowing illegal entry to occur in no way, shape, fashion, or form makes it legal. Refugee and asylum seeker is only a legal status when done correctly. You can't just hop the border illegally and then claim protected status. "The federal government is required to enforce immigration laws and protect the country from illegal immigration. According to the Presidential Proclamation on Protecting the American People Against Invasion, the government must enforce the provisions of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) and other federal laws related to the illegal entry and unlawful presence of aliens in the United States"
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Re: Federal judges
[Re: Michael256]
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04/05/25 09:34 AM
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CeeHawk37
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In Biden’s loan forgiveness EO, judges cited particular constitutional issues with said EO. The briefs the judges entered as to why they were stopping that EO cited case law and the articles of the constitution that they believed he had run afoul of. In the Trump cases they issued universal injunctions on the basis that the constitution may have been violated but did not cite any existing case law nor the particular articles of the constitution that he allegedly violated. Briefs in the Biden case were many pages long with actual legal arguments. In the Trump cases they have been maybe two pages long with no legal explanation as to why the injunction was issued. They are not the same. To act like they are is either ignorant or just straight up cheerleading for the opposition party. Not to mention half of the universal injunctions have major issues with the court they were filed in or failed to even address legal standing. In the event the judiciary willingly and knowingly oversteps far beyond their bounds, impeachment was written into the constitution as the remedy. These judges are supposed to be impartial regardless of who they were appointed by. These district judges have chosen to become political with these rulings they know will not be upheld and they can’t even cite what part of the constitution is being violated. Impeachment is the political remedy for when judges become political. The timeline is a lot different on the issues Trump is trying to EO vs Biden* though. Biden’s student loan forgiveness went through many months or years of being planned. They had the time to do such. With Trump, he’s blitzing. “I’m gonna use this war time law in peacetime to deport people I think should go, with no due process.. starting.. now.” Or “I’m gonna block these funds and cancel these contracts that Congress legally provisioned starting .. now.” So yeah it’s no surprise the judges are like “wait, no. Hold the **** up.” because if he’s doing something unlawful like shutting down a whole agency he doesn’t have the authority to do, you can’t wait months or years to be like “you didn’t have the power to do that” because by then the damage is long since done, and that organization or those people are gone. The rule of law doesn’t somehow magically change due to the fact that the executive is taking more action in a shorter time span than previous presidents. Judges don’t get to arbitrarily stop executive actions because of some perceived timeline. Biden’s EO didn’t go into effect until he auto penned it, same as all of Trump’s EO’s. Judges have to cite some statute or clause of the constitution that an action has violated. That didn’t happen with the majority of these universal injunctions. If what you say was even remotely true, any judge could literally block legislation the second it gets signed for no other reason than, they think the constitution was violated in someway, even though they don’t know how. They won’t say how, or what statute was violated but any EO or legislation would be fair game to the hypothetical “maybe”. That means the judiciary has tyrannical rule to cease any action of government when they see fit. That’s not how it works. But hey, leftists never let constitutional or logical arguments stop them from arguing for their desired outcomes so please feel free to continue showing your ignorance of basic civics.
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Re: Federal judges
[Re: woodduck]
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04/05/25 11:45 AM
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I mean theoretically your whole argument is shot by the fact that if Biden let them in, that would make them not illegal. And that is happening a lot. I see people who said “I don’t mind if they come here legally!” Then cheer as a bunch of refugees and asylum seekers (which is a legal status btw) get their legal status revoked or overturned and people who were previously legally are now told they have 30 days to self deport, and then people cheer “yeah, get those illegals out!” It’s not like Biden was standing at the border gate letting people with no papers come in. Biden actually deported more people than Trump did in his first administration. And in that same turn, even Obama deported more people than Trump. https://docs.house.gov/meetings/GO/GO00/20200109/110349/HHRG-116-GO00-20200109-SD007.pdf You can't just hop the border illegally and then claim protected status. [/quote] I’m gonna need proof that Biden “let the illegals in” because the only non-ragebait sources I can find said he “eased” the process for non-citizen spouses of citizens, and non-citizen children of citizens. And he created a program for asylum seekers and refugees : “ The Biden administration created a “humanitarian parole” program that allows Cubans, Haitians, Nicaraguans, and Venezuelans to stay in the U.S. for two years, but participants — who have legal permission to be here — must apply online with a financial sponsor, and they must be screened, vetted, and authorized for travel.” If one President can sell a $5 million “gold card” then I’m pretty sure Biden was allowed to do that.
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