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Re: Mark Buxton and Clover
[Re: Sasquatch Lives]
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TurkeyJoe
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It doesn’t seem to. I’ve never seen one sick from it, and I see the same ones on cell camera night after night
Micah 6:8
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Re: Mark Buxton and Clover
[Re: CNC]
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Deer are in ours and so are the turkey On the deer, keep in mind there are a lot of forages that are new and tender right now. The main benefit with clover is the amount of biomass they produce and the high quality of that biomass. If a deer comes into my clover and spends 10-30min+ and moves on then overall I have increased their protein intake on the day. Any high quality is better than none and in another month or two when other plants get woody the clover will still be succulent and they will still be browsing on them. It's hard to see browse in them right now as fast as they are growing. When you get down there though you can see the leaves and flowers nipped off.
"Hell with them fellows, buzzard got to eat same as a worm" Josey Wales
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Re: Mark Buxton and Clover
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Sprayed my field with poast a month ago to keep the grass down. It’s mostly ladino with a few cereal grains left. The deer were killing it a couple weeks ago before full green up. They are still in there every night, but I think they have some other options now since it’s greened up. Does it harm the deer to eat the clover just after it has been sprayed with this stuff? We have always just fertilized and mowed and have some weeds but not enough to make a difference, the deer still hammer it. It just doesn't look like a post card and we don't have much $ in it.
Micah 6:8
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Re: Mark Buxton and Clover
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Deer are in ours and so are the turkey On the deer, keep in mind there are a lot of forages that are new and tender right now. The main benefit with clover is the amount of biomass they produce and the high quality of that biomass. If a deer comes into my clover and spends 10-30min+ and moves on then overall I have increased their protein intake on the day. Any high quality is better than none and in another month or two when other plants get woody the clover will still be succulent and they will still be browsing on them. It's hard to see browse in them right now as fast as they are growing. When you get down there though you can see the leaves and flowers nipped off. I don’t disagree with any of that but the original idea was that basically they could still be consuming that same amount of clover plus also getting benefit from consuming other top tier plant species as well….. I think you have the potential to grow other things in these field settings that the wildlife likely wont get anywhere else…..deer and turkey both…..and with turkey you also have the more dynamic insect food web that will likely not be found in many other locations……. Just for example, here is late summer utilization of a patch of teaweed with exclusion cages in the back. You can just see the green post sticking up that’s holding one of the two cages…..I didn’t plant it….it just started growing once the soil conditions improved…..I really think the lime and high levels of Ca was a big part of that…..At this point in time tests were showing over 4000 lbs/ac of Ca in my topsoil…..You don’t get those type conditions in burn units….. ![[Linked Image]](https://i.imgur.com/N4blw7U.jpeg)
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“Buy the ticket, take the ride...And if it occasionally gets a little heavier than what you had in mind….well, maybe chalk it up to forced consciousness expansion…..Tune in, freak out, get beaten”....Hunter S. Thompson
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Re: Mark Buxton and Clover
[Re: CNC]
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Again, don’t get me wrong……I’m not saying Buxton’s methods are wrong or anything…..I’m just suggesting that there might be a more optimal way of managing these big fields where you actually produce more benefit for the wildlife even if it’s a little less beneficial to the camera lens and doesn’t sale quite as well
“Buy the ticket, take the ride...And if it occasionally gets a little heavier than what you had in mind….well, maybe chalk it up to forced consciousness expansion…..Tune in, freak out, get beaten”....Hunter S. Thompson
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Re: Mark Buxton and Clover
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Buxton don’t disagree with you. He promotes variety in food plots. Just not all mixed together. If it’s all mixed together it’s harder to spray for the unwanted plants. 10-4….I was just going off of what I see him post on his page……Seems like he really promotes growing fields of pure clover
“Buy the ticket, take the ride...And if it occasionally gets a little heavier than what you had in mind….well, maybe chalk it up to forced consciousness expansion…..Tune in, freak out, get beaten”....Hunter S. Thompson
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Re: Mark Buxton and Clover
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k bush
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Another thing to keep in mind, a weedy plot with a diverse mixture of species is likely a bigger benefit on a tract with a majority of acreage in closed canopy forest. If you a good portion of your property in varying stages of succession like utility ROW, clear cuts, old field etc I don’t see it as being such a big deal to have a few acres dedicated to clover.
"Cull" is just another four letter word...
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