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Re: NFL draft
[Re: bamaeyedoc]
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I donât think Bama fans could have stomached him coming back for his senior year. I still think he messed up by not coming back for one more season. If the o-line play doesnt improve it wont matter who the QB is......I'm hopeful though......I think there's a lot of potential there with Grubbs coming in as OC.......I just wish Milroe would have had the chance to shine with another year under the new Coach and better o-line play......Transition years are always tough
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Re: NFL draft
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He's gonna end up being a Super Bowl winning quarterback for some team and I predict that when he does abolt300 will still be a hater..... Put your money where your mouth is big boy. I'll bet you today, that the only way Milroe participates in a superbowl is if he's sitting on the bench watching a real starting QB slinging the ball around the yard. I'm not a Milroe hater. He's just not an elite quarterback and wont ever be. Great athlete but as I've said for three years, that does not always translate to being a great QB. He couldnt even get it done and win the big game as a 2 yr starter in college with a surrounding cast of 5 stars. And you think he'll be successful at an elite level throwing the ball in the NFL? Where he's playing the absolute best of the best every weekend. Come on, not even you are that delusional. I'm up for whatever bet you want to make on Milroe winning a superbowl as the starting QB. That's easy money. Like taking candy from baby.
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Re: NFL draft
[Re: bamaeyedoc]
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I donât think Bama fans could have stomached him coming back for his senior year. I still think he messed up by not coming back for one more season. From what I've read elsewhere, several of his teammates would have hit the transfer portal if he returned.
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Re: NFL draft
[Re: AU338MAG]
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04/25/25 04:27 PM
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I donât think Bama fans could have stomached him coming back for his senior year. I still think he messed up by not coming back for one more season. From what I've read elsewhere, several of his teammates would have hit the transfer portal if he returned. I read and heard the same thing.
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Re: NFL draft
[Re: AU338MAG]
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04/25/25 05:20 PM
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I donât think Bama fans could have stomached him coming back for his senior year. I still think he messed up by not coming back for one more season. From what I've read elsewhere, several of his teammates would have hit the transfer portal if he returned. What I heard too....I figure he probably has a "It's all about me showboat attitude" and nobody that ever played a team sport would want to have to put up with that bullcrap...
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Re: NFL draft
[Re: quailman]
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04/25/25 05:38 PM
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I donât think Bama fans could have stomached him coming back for his senior year. I still think he messed up by not coming back for one more season. From what I've read elsewhere, several of his teammates would have hit the transfer portal if he returned. I read and heard the same thing. From the Pellisero story on NFL.com: 2025 NFL Draft: Pro execs, scouts, coaches rank and evaluate the top 18 prospects in this QB classA two-year starter and team captain, Milroe succeeded No. 1 overall pick Bryce Young with the Crimson Tide, who went 21-6 with Milroe as the starter. Although he remains raw as a passer, Milroe's rare combination of traits and playmaking ability has drawn favorable comparisons to some of the NFL's most dynamic talents. "He is the greatest runner of the football at the quarterback position I've ever seen. And there's enough talent in the arm to make you want to play an offense that suits that," an AFC quarterbacks coach said. "It's (Jalen) Hurts. It's Lamar (Jackson). It's Colin Kaepernick. There are some guys that have successfully done it, and if you want to baby him into the league that way and then let him flourish, who knows?" Said an AFC coordinator: "He has a lot of accuracy issues. But he's a freak. He's the best running quarterback I've ever evaluated. He's like Cam Newton's power with Lamar's speed. He can throw the ball down the field -- his numbers over 20 yards are good. And he's a true developmental-type player. He's electric."
In 38 college games (27 starts), Milroe completed 64.3 percent of his passes for 6,016 yards and 45 touchdowns with 20 interceptions, including 11 INTs last season as he adjusted to a new offense. But he remained elite as a run threat in 2024, rushing for 726 yards and 20 TDs -- seven more than Hurts' prior Alabama record -- after rushing for 12 TDs the year before. "Jalen Hurts was a better passer (coming out). Lamar Jackson was a way better passer. But I think you could probably hear a GM say, 'All right, Jalen Hurts was picked in the second round; if you were to redo it, you'd take him in the first,' " an NFC scout said. "And Milroe is a much better runner. If he were a running back, he'd be a top-of-the-second-round running back." Said an AFC executive who saw Milroe play live: "This is the fastest guy on the goddamn field. He was outrunning angles. He's just so f---ing erratic. He's a smart enough kid, but not a fast processor. He's into all these f---ing mental coaches. Has to see it open. Doesn't have anticipation. He's the typical big, rifle-armed f---er who throws everything f---ing hard and fast and will throw a good pass and then the next five, you don't know where the f--- they're going to end up." At his pro day, Milroe (6-1 7/8, 217) ran a 4.40 40-yard dash with a 1.44 10-yard split, according to the SEC Network. "He's a 22 mph-on-the-ground guy," another AFC coordinator said. "He's got a fastball that's not very accurate. He doesn't know when to take it off the ball. We heard out of Alabama all the skill [players] would've transferred if he came back. He wants to be known as a pocket quarterback and your best skill is you're frickin' fast."
Milroe has said former Alabama offensive coordinator Bill O'Brien suggested he switch positions -- an idea Milroe rejected then and is still against now. While teams are intrigued by the idea of using Milroe in packages while he develops as a quarterback -- like Baltimore did in the first half of Jackson's rookie season -- Milroe has made clear in meetings with organizations that he sees himself strictly as a quarterback, not a gadget guy. "He can be as good, if not better than any of those guys (in this draft) in the right system. But it's a very specific system that I don't know if I believe in," an NFC scouting director said. "He's one of those guys that, if he's your starter, he could come in and wreck the league for about a year or two and then people start figuring him out. I think there's time -- Milroe wants to prove that he's a passer and he's a little bit resistant to being a physical runner." Said an NFC assistant coach: "From a playmaking standpoint, he is as good as anybody. That dude's impressive and he can make big plays and take off and run. But the consistent accuracy is the biggest part with him. He's probably got as much upside, if not more, than anybody in this draft. It's just, can you hone that? If you run your offense like they did early for Lamar -- it's using those physical traits as that pass game evolves -- then you've got something really special. If you try to say, 'Hey, we're going to make him into a pocket passer Year 1,' it might be tough." Jackson (No. 32 pick in 2018) and Hurts (No. 53 in 2020) both have developed significantly as passers after being drafted later. Other star QBs, such as Josh Allen, also have improved their accuracy in the NFL "You've gotta have a clear, clear vision of how you're going to move forward with this guy," an NFC coordinator said. "He's one of the best athletes on the field. I just don't know how much better the accuracy is going to get. It's not like a Josh Allen or a Lamar Jackson coming out, where there were some accuracy issues, but they were still natural, whip throwers. [Milroe] just isn't a real natural thrower. Those guys just needed to clean up their base and fundamentals. I just don't see the accuracy getting that much better. I don't think it'll be at a level where you feel great about him dropping back and throwing the ball."
One veteran coordinator pointed to Alabama's coaching change last year as a factor in slowing Milroe's development. During the Crimson Tide's 12-2 season in 2023, Milroe ranked third in FBS in pass yards per attempt (10) and seventh in yards per completion (15.2). Then Nick Saban retired, offensive coordinator/quarterbacks coach Tommy Rees left for the NFL and Alabama hired Kalen DeBoer, who'd just come off a playoff run with a spread offense built around Michael Penix Jr. -- a pocket passer with a vastly different skill set than Milroe. "If you can mold the correct system around him, then his ability as just an athlete and a ball-carrier -- he's dangerous," another AFC quarterbacks coach said. "It requires the right coaching staff and the right philosophical outlook. But I think he's the wild card in all this. He'll probably end up being the third or fourth one taken. But if somebody loves him enough to feel like you've got to jump back up there into the middle of the first to make sure you get him, that wouldn't surprise me either." Milroe won the William V. Campbell Trophy (a.k.a., the "Academic Heisman") last season. In a draft of older QBs, Milroe is still just 22 years old. "If that guy comes on the field, that's a problem" for the defense, an AFC scouting director said. "He can develop the throwing part. But for right now, get creative with him and have some packages. He's as dynamic as I've seen running the ball."
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Re: NFL draft
[Re: BPI]
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04/25/25 05:40 PM
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Sanders will be the next q.b. taken in round 2 and then most likely MIlroe. Also likely in round 2. Possibly round 3. IMO. Thats kinda what I'm thinking to....But what team wants a basket case Qb project unless you can get him on the really cheap....  anyone know what the minimum starting salary is for a basketcase project qb in the Nfl...???
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Re: NFL draft
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04/25/25 06:39 PM
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I hope Sanders doesn't get picked even in this 2nd round. He's an entitled prick, who isn't even that good! Daddy ain't helping him either, with all his bull$hit talk!
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Re: NFL draft
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04/25/25 07:37 PM
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Welp....Tyler Shough (Louisville) got picked at qb before Sanders and Milroe....  I had never even heard of him before....  ...  Aint looking too good for Ol Milroe....No one wants a project QB I guess....  He should of portaled out to Ok. or Oregon his final year of eligibility to help improve his draft stock....
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Re: NFL draft
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04/25/25 07:53 PM
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Those brilliant NFL GMs are just waiting for the opportunity to spend the least amount on a top tier QB...
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Re: NFL draft
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04/25/25 07:55 PM
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Welp....Tyler Shough (Louisville) got picked at qb before Sanders and Milroe....  I had never even heard of him before....  ...  Aint looking too good for Ol Milroe....No one wants a project QB I guess....  He should of portaled out to Ok. or Oregon his final year of eligibility to help improve his draft stock.... Damn, what a shocker! look back about 35 posts and see who predicted that one. Lol
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Re: NFL draft
[Re: AU338MAG]
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04/25/25 08:06 PM
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Those brilliant NFL GMs are just waiting for the opportunity to spend the least amount on a top tier QB... Yep......that's exactly what they're doing......If Milroe is on their board as someone they want and they can still get him in the 3rd round without having to spend the 2nd round pick on him then that's what they'll do......Its a bit of a gamble but if Shadeur Sanders is still on the board then they're probably safe to make that gamble until he goes
âBuy the ticket, take the ride...And if it occasionally gets a little heavier than what you had in mindâŚ.well, maybe chalk it up to forced consciousness expansionâŚ..Tune in, freak out, get beatenâ....Hunter S. Thompson
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Re: NFL draft
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04/25/25 08:16 PM
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Wait, i thought he was playing for a Heisman and a guarantee natty this year? Hes in the draft? third round, BET THE FARM! Well thers this, from the guy whos always wrong!
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Re: NFL draft
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Those brilliant NFL GMs are just waiting for the opportunity to spend the least amount on a top tier QB... Yep......that's exactly what they're doing......If Milroe is on their board as someone they want and they can still get him in the 3rd round without having to spend the 2nd round pick on him then that's what they'll do......Its a bit of a gamble but if Shadeur Sanders is still on the board then they're probably safe to make that gamble until he goes Or maybe hes not worth wasting a 1st or 2nd round pick for a long shot.
Dying ain't much of a living boy...Josey Wales
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