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Wolves in Alabama? #447789
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I was bow hunting this weekend and saw the largest coyote I have ever seen. Initially thought is was a large deer from far off - that's how big it was (& yes, I have seen a good many coyotes in the wild). Told this story to my boss and he said there have been some sightings of wolves coming down from the Appalachians & it could've been one. I know this sounds crazy but is there any chance that it could've been one?

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Re: Wolves in Alabama? [Re: TtownBuckMaster] #447799
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The wolves in the Appalachian mountains were red wolves. They were reintroduced about 20 years ago. They were quickly diluted by interbreeding with coyotes to make a basically large coyote. I don't think there are any pure red wolves left.

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Two wolf threads in one week. Makes you wonder what's out there.

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Originally Posted By: hawgwild
Two wolf threads in one week. Makes you wonder what's out there.


Where is the other thread?

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Somewhere on here with a photo of a fluffy coyote.

If anyone ever sees a real wolf and has seen a coyote, they'll know the difference. Or should.


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Re: Wolves in Alabama? [Re: TtownBuckMaster] #448129
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Re: Wolves in Alabama? [Re: TtownBuckMaster] #448161
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all I can say is that seeing them when they were at the Birmingham zoo many years ago they looked extremely similar to coyotes


http://www.chattanooganaturecenter.org/www/docs/133.251/

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Coyote vs Red Wolf

What is the Difference Between Red Wolves and Coyotes?

Red Wolves and Coyotes are very closely related and in fact share a recent common ancestor. The two species do hybridize and produce fertile offspring. It is usually impossible to distinguish between a Coyote Red Wolf hybrid and a Red Wolf just by looking at it. Wildlife Biologists that work with the only known wild population of Red Wolves at Alligator River National Wildlife Refuge in North Carolina have to do DNA tests to be sure.

Red Wolves are a critically endangered species with only about 100 individuals existing in the wild in the world, all of them in the Alligator River NWR area of North Carolina. Coyotes, although not found East of the Mississippi River prior to 1900, are now very common in the wild.

Red Wolves, as a species, are larger in both height and weight. Coyotes usually weigh between 25 and 35 pounds while Red Wolves usually weigh between 50 and 80 pounds. Red Wolves are more massive in the head, chest, legs and feet. There can be size overlap between the species. Some Red Wolves are in fact smaller that some Coyotes. Coyotes tend to have a longer, narrower, muzzle than Red Wolves do.

Red wolves are mostly brown and buff colored with some black along their backs; there is sometimes a reddish color behind their ears, on their muzzle, and toward the backs of their legs. However, many Red Wolves can have the same colors as coyotes which tend to be light gray with some black on the tips of their outer hairs.

Red Wolves howls are similar to Coyotes but tend to be of longer duration and lower in pitch. Coyotes tend to have more yapping intermixed with the howls. Again, it can be almost impossible to tell the difference in some individuals.

It used to be believed that Coyotes didnt hunt in packs like wolves but pack hunting coyotes have now been observed in the wild.

The Eastern Coyote is different from the Western Coyote in size, genetics and behavior. This is due to interbreeding with wolves. Eastern Coyotes have wolf genes and therefore are taking on wolf characteristics. This happened when the wolf population in the Eastern United States was hunted almost to extinction and had dwindled to a small enough size that they would breed with Coyotes instead of chasing them off or killing them.

Red Wolves howls are similar to Coyotes but tend to be of longer duration and lower in pitch. Coyotes tend to have more yapping intermixed with the howls. Again, it can be almost impossible to tell the difference in some individuals.

If you are anywhere in Eastern North America, outside of coastal North Carolina, and observe a large wolf-like animal, it is almost certainly an Eastern Coyote or possibly a Gray Wolf that someone had as a pet and dumped in the wild.

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I stopped at a greasy hole for some chow a few years ago in Defuniak Springs and noticed a large enclosure in the back of a truck. Upon closer inspection it had a grey wolf in it that a guy was transporting to a wolf preserve (Seacrest Wolf Preserve) in Washington County. Boys let me tell you....if you ever see a true wolf, you'll never confuse a wolf with a coyote.
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i shot a coyote few years ago it was big the sucker went 65 pounds


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Originally Posted By: tiderbd
I stopped at a greasy hole for some chow a few years ago in Defuniak Springs and noticed a large enclosure in the back of a truck. Upon closer inspection it had a grey wolf in it that a guy was transporting to a wolf preserve (Seacrest Wolf Preserve) in Washington County. Boys let me tell you....if you ever see a true wolf, you'll never confuse a wolf with a coyote.
Seacrest Wolf Preserve Link http://www.seacrestwolfpreserve.org/cpg/index.php



a grey wolf and a red wolf is way different in size

had a supposed chance to get a rescued black phase grey wolf, the regs were too much and I'm sure he'd eat me out of house and home


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Originally Posted By: cartervj
Originally Posted By: tiderbd
I stopped at a greasy hole for some chow a few years ago in Defuniak Springs and noticed a large enclosure in the back of a truck. Upon closer inspection it had a grey wolf in it that a guy was transporting to a wolf preserve (Seacrest Wolf Preserve) in Washington County. Boys let me tell you....if you ever see a true wolf, you'll never confuse a wolf with a coyote.
Seacrest Wolf Preserve Link http://www.seacrestwolfpreserve.org/cpg/index.php



a grey wolf and a red wolf is way different in size

had a supposed chance to get a rescued black phase grey wolf, the regs were too much and I'm sure he'd eat me out of house and home

I didn't know that. Thanks


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Originally Posted By: jeffpike83
i shot a coyote few years ago it was big the sucker went 65 pounds


Well I'm sure mine was a big coyote then b/c that's roughly how much I guessed it would weigh. Just figured it would make for good conversation with all this "cougar" and "black panther" talk.

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I went just southwest of DeFuniak Springs about 15 or so years ago to look at a tract of timber. I blew the horn at the guys house and as we went across his yard walking he said not to get too close to the wolf. I stopped and said "What wolf". He had a cable running between two trees about 50 yards long and on a slide chain he had a blackish colored wolf. There were a few azalia bushes and a couple of old cars in the area and that dang wolf would belly crawl around hiding behind stuff like he was hunting. I told him I would be back later, havn't made it back yet.

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Last Spring turkey hunting in Northern Greene County, I called in a red wolf.
I have seen hundreds, and killed dozens, of coyotes. some pretty big ones too. This wolf was way bigger and had the black back, tan and red marks on his face and neck. He was less that 20 yards from me when he caught my scent. He stopped and looked at me a few seconds and just walked off in the brush. I have been hunting for over 50 years and I know what I saw was definitely no coyote. Most game wardens and biologist are way too skeptical of hunters who see animals they consider to not be in an area. However, in broad daylight at 20 yards, they can be skeptical, and also be wrong.

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Originally Posted By: tiderbd
I stopped at a greasy hole for some chow a few years ago in Defuniak Springs and noticed a large enclosure in the back of a truck. Upon closer inspection it had a grey wolf in it that a guy was transporting to a wolf preserve (Seacrest Wolf Preserve) in Washington County. Boys let me tell you....if you ever see a true wolf, you'll never confuse a wolf with a coyote.
Seacrest Wolf Preserve Link http://www.seacrestwolfpreserve.org/cpg/index.php


Looks like a taste test to me.


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I've been thru that area several times, but never knew it was there. A few miles from here a family raises and trains white Bengal tigers. Some of them travel the world with a circus, and they occasionally sell some, beautiful animals.

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Of course there are Wolves in Alabama, and Tigers too! Here is one I shot a couple of years ago in Blount County. I wanted to keep it hush, hush, but I guess I can let you guys in on the secret.


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