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TSS #465607
12/05/12 01:17 PM
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Wade Offline OP
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I've seen you guys talk about this shot a lot. I know you have to handload the stuff, but, is there any site to buy the shells already loaded. I don't handload.


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Re: TSS [Re: Wade] #465608
12/05/12 01:18 PM
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No


Do you want to hear him gobble, or do you want to kill him.
Re: TSS [Re: Wade] #465610
12/05/12 01:22 PM
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That is the only drawback to TSS, nothing is commercially produced.

That is the only reason I quit shooting TSS... I don't have time for another hobby, like reloading.

Hevi-13 has been the next best thing that I've found, then Nitro's. I ordered Nitro's for 5 or 6 years, then got tired of it. I can get the Hevi-13's off the shelf at my local store.

Re: TSS [Re: Wade] #465657
12/05/12 02:31 PM
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Gotta handload it, but a cheap scale and a roll crimping tool is all that you must have to be able to do it so it's really not that big a deal to do enough to shoot a few shells a year

Re: TSS [Re: Wade] #465682
12/05/12 02:59 PM
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I dont make a hobby out of it.

I load what i need and thats it. Stuffs to high to play around with and waste.


Do you want to hear him gobble, or do you want to kill him.
Re: TSS [Re: Wade] #465736
12/05/12 04:40 PM
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I know, but I have tendency to go overboard at times.

Re: TSS [Re: Wade] #465858
12/05/12 06:46 PM
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I think there are several of us that do that in one way or another.


Do you want to hear him gobble, or do you want to kill him.
Re: TSS [Re: BrentM] #465977
12/05/12 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted By: BrentM
Gotta handload it, but a cheap scale and a roll crimping tool is all that you must have to be able to do it so it's really not that big a deal to do enough to shoot a few shells a year


The only big deal is I am slow as chit at loading them. I'm obsessed with measuring everything EXACTLY the same, and after 2 hours of using tweezers to pick up individual flakes of gun powder, TSS, and buffer, I'm just about ready to go nuts! (But I do like my 100 yard turkey shooter grin)


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Re: TSS [Re: Wade] #465985
12/05/12 08:39 PM
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Which one of yall want to load me some up for this year. I will pay you for it all. I ain't got time to do anything else right now.


Some men are mere hunters; others are turkey hunters. —Archibald Rutledge—
Re: TSS [Re: YEKRUT] #466003
12/05/12 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted By: YEKRUT
Which one of yall want to load me some up for this year. I will pay you for it all. I ain't got time to do anything else right now.


Thought you were a Nitro disciple?

Re: TSS [Re: 3toe] #466026
12/05/12 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted By: 3toe
Originally Posted By: YEKRUT
Which one of yall want to load me some up for this year. I will pay you for it all. I ain't got time to do anything else right now.


Thought you were a Nitro disciple?


I am, still got about 25 of them left. I need something for long shots on field birds. smile


Some men are mere hunters; others are turkey hunters. —Archibald Rutledge—
Re: TSS [Re: Wade] #466044
12/05/12 09:11 PM
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I still have those Megaweights I'll sell you if you want them by the way. They're the next best thing I've seen to TSS

Re: TSS [Re: Wade] #466052
12/05/12 09:16 PM
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Yeah ill try them Brent, pm me what you've got and what you want for them.


Some men are mere hunters; others are turkey hunters. —Archibald Rutledge—
Re: TSS [Re: Wade] #466126
12/05/12 10:12 PM
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How far can you realistically expect them to be lethal if we were talking a 3" gun?


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Re: TSS [Re: bill] #466138
12/05/12 10:23 PM
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[quote=bill]How far can you realistically expect them to be lethal if we were talking a 3" gun?

How far you need to shoot? They are probably lethal farther than you can keep a consistent pattern and some of these guys are getting good patterns way on out there.


Some men are mere hunters; others are turkey hunters. —Archibald Rutledge—
Re: TSS [Re: Wade] #466139
12/05/12 10:23 PM
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PCP or Hawglips would know alot better than me bill, but just guessing if a guy was shooting a little bigger shot like #7's and found the right choke, he could probably come up with something that would have enough pattern density to kill a turkey at 90-100 yards. The energy would be there at a hundred no doubt.
A full house load of straight 8's would probably kill a turkey pretty consistently at 75-80 yards.
I'm shooting a 20 gauge 1 5/8 oz load with one oz 9's and 5/8 oz 8's and though I've never shot at one that far, I'd say it would wad one up at 60 all day long.

This is just a guess on my part, but I'm probably pretty close and honestly probably leaning towards the conservative side. Preacher or especially Hawglips probably has some actual data to back up their theories.

Re: TSS [Re: Wade] #466142
12/05/12 10:26 PM
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From what I have read BrentM is right in the ball park. The stuff just keeps on keeping on.


Some men are mere hunters; others are turkey hunters. —Archibald Rutledge—
Re: TSS [Re: Wade] #466143
12/05/12 10:28 PM
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How far do I need to shoot? The way I call I'd say 3 or 400 yards should do the trick.

I was just wondering if they were really that much better than the heavy 13 and mega weights in performance.


" I do view Jim Waltz as a really good Presidential candidate"
Bama_Earl
Re: TSS [Re: Wade] #466145
12/05/12 10:32 PM
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Brentm, that is crazy. Those things are powerful enough to make me look like a decent turkey hunter. By the last week of the season , last year, I would have given a hundred a shell for one that would have killed at those distances.


" I do view Jim Waltz as a really good Presidential candidate"
Bama_Earl
Re: TSS [Re: BrentM] #466148
12/05/12 10:39 PM
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You be the judge - here's a 40 yard pattern with tss #8, a 2.25 oz load.



There's about 560 shot in the shell, and 400 of them are in the 10" circle at 40 yds. Computer programs say it has enough penetration power to kill one over 100 yds. I'm not sure at what range it would run out of pattern density for sure kills, but I'd bet one would be in serious danger at 90 yards. The load I hunt with only puts about 220-240 in the 10" circle at 40, and it will still hold about 75 hits at 75 yds.

I'm in no way advocating shooting turkeys at ranges like this. I do think a 100 yd load would be possible with some serious pattern work and the right load, gun and choke. I don't intend to do it. Trying to get a 20 gauge to work right now. I do know of quite a few kills made over 70 yds.

But Wade, you need to stick to lead. Possum Creek hunters should want the turkey within 25 yds before shooting. smile


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