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Re: Passed this one up yesterday.
[Re: Hogwild]
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12/13/12 09:07 PM
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2Dogs
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Do you guys REALLY think there are no 'small', or 'young' bucks killed in the Midwest????
TV is gonna be the demise of hunting for sheer enjoyment.
Heck, if a guy is happy with killing an 80" 8pt.... I am happy for them!!!!! This ^^^^^ 
"Why do you ask"?
Always vote the slowest path to socialism.
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Re: Passed this one up yesterday.
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12/13/12 09:20 PM
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Y'all are fooling yourselves on thinking that AL can compete with the Midwest on the quality of antlers. It takes a lot more than age to grow true trophy-class antlers!!!!
BUT, it is a very important part! true on average Danny, but Alabamas weight record is a staggering 365 pounds on a 60's Pickens Co buck. And the non-typical record is a monsterous 256 B&C inches... don't sell our POTENTIAL too short.... The cause for that potential is now covered in pine trees instead of soybeans......don't you think?
If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
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Re: Passed this one up yesterday.
[Re: Geezer]
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12/13/12 09:21 PM
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FurFlyin
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You can go to Hell for lying as quick as stealing. Just wanted to let you. LOL I ain't lying, I'da shot him right where he was standing!
If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
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Re: Passed this one up yesterday.
[Re: FurFlyin]
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12/13/12 09:27 PM
12/13/12 09:27 PM
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Y'all are fooling yourselves on thinking that AL can compete with the Midwest on the quality of antlers. It takes a lot more than age to grow true trophy-class antlers!!!!
BUT, it is a very important part! true on average Danny, but Alabamas weight record is a staggering 365 pounds on a 60's Pickens Co buck. And the non-typical record is a monsterous 256 B&C inches... don't sell our POTENTIAL too short.... The cause for that potential is now covered in pine trees instead of soybeans......don't you think? Good point ,Fur. Even back in the day, that was the exception and not even close to the norm.
"Why do you ask"?
Always vote the slowest path to socialism.
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Re: Passed this one up yesterday.
[Re: 2Dogs]
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12/13/12 09:42 PM
12/13/12 09:42 PM
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Johnal3
it froze over
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it froze over
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Y'all are fooling yourselves on thinking that AL can compete with the Midwest on the quality of antlers. It takes a lot more than age to grow true trophy-class antlers!!!!
BUT, it is a very important part! true on average Danny, but Alabamas weight record is a staggering 365 pounds on a 60's Pickens Co buck. And the non-typical record is a monsterous 256 B&C inches... don't sell our POTENTIAL too short.... The cause for that potential is now covered in pine trees instead of soybeans......don't you think? Good point ,Fur. Even back in the day, that was the exception and not even close to the norm. I agree with both of y'all. I think if you cut all the pines and planted soy beans then you would have good potential for 150+ deer all the time like in the MW in those certain areas. Body weights would go up definitely and antlers would follow. The way it is now though, most places in Alabama, if a deer hits 130 at age 5 he's an above average deer. When you get into the 150's and up, it's just freaks of nature here. That's just the way it is and I couldn't be convinced any other way. Our soil, what grows in it and lack of cold winters causing lower body weights says it all to me.
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Re: Passed this one up yesterday.
[Re: BOFF]
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12/13/12 09:42 PM
12/13/12 09:42 PM
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BhamFred
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notice I said POTENTIAL....it's still there if the age and nutrition are given.
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
proud Cracker-Americaan
muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
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Re: Passed this one up yesterday.
[Re: BhamFred]
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12/13/12 10:48 PM
12/13/12 10:48 PM
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Round ‘bout there
Clem
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Round ‘bout there
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notice I said POTENTIAL....it's still there if the age and nutrition are given.
Ding. Winner.
"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
"Bible says you shouldn't put sugar in your cornbread." Dustin, 2013
"Best I can figure 97.365% of the general public is a paint chip eating, mouth breathing, certified dumbass." BCLC, 2020
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Re: Passed this one up yesterday.
[Re: cha]
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12/13/12 11:01 PM
12/13/12 11:01 PM
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Northport, Al.
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Thanks guys for all the comments, well most of them. Lol.
The hunt in itself is different things, to different people.
For those wondering why I didn't shoot him? I didn't shoot him for a number of reasons. Here are a few.
A. I shoot a longbow, and was hunting with a rifle that day. A rifle just doesn't "crank my tractor" shooting deer. I use a rifle to thin the doe population.
B. Though there is a greater percentage of me never seeing him again rather than seeing him, I'd rather my daughter shoot him.
C. This is property I have worked on, and managed since I was old enough to walk. I'm sure I actually crawled on a lot of the ground.
D. Although he may not get much bigger if he makes it next year, he sure isn't going to get any bigger if I shoot him now.
E. I got him on film, and basically, though it's not 100%, he would have been a dead deer, if, I had chose to shoot him.
etc. etc.
Just having the opportunity to see him was a Blessing. But how many of you have actually watched a big deer and how they react to their environment? There is a lot to be learned. You can't learn much with him dead on the ground. Much like some of you have learned by not shooting the first deer that comes out, you often get to see more deer and bigger deer.
Regardless, it is one of the biggest deer I have seen on the property, for any good length of time. Definitely bigger than anything I have taken on the property. He increased a lot in mass, from last year, I'd like to see what he can do for the next.
God Bless,
David B.
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Re: Passed this one up yesterday.
[Re: Hogwild]
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12/13/12 11:03 PM
12/13/12 11:03 PM
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NE Madison county Alabama
msudog
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NE Madison county Alabama
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TV is gonna be the demise of hunting for sheer enjoyment.
true on many levels! unrealistic expectations, insane lease prices, camo cost heading toward that of a tailored suit, etc. kinda miss shootin a small 8 on the neighbors farm while wearing a blue jean jacket...like in the day.
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Re: Passed this one up yesterday.
[Re: Clem]
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12/13/12 11:06 PM
12/13/12 11:06 PM
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Johnal3
it froze over
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notice I said POTENTIAL....it's still there if the age and nutrition are given.
Ding. Winner. Yep, so trigger control, got it. Now what for nutrition? Unending funds to feed them out of a trough? MOST of the soil in Alabama AIN'T GONNA grow as nutritious plants OR as big of deer. It just ain't gonna happen. I'm spending the money and time I can to produce what I got, and its good enough for me. I don't need Lee and Tiffany deer to be satisfied. It would be nice to see one every now and then, but I ain't wasting my hunting "career" passing 130 or 140" bucks on "MY" property to wait on some dream to come true.
This is Aldeer! The place people come to vent their frustrations and completely change their stance a few minutes later...
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Re: Passed this one up yesterday.
[Re: BOFF]
#472171
12/13/12 11:11 PM
12/13/12 11:11 PM
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Slidell, La
perchjerker
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Congrats, many shoot smaller less mature bucks. Congrats on being able to watch a mature buck without being overcome with a desire to kill. The only way he'll ever get bigger is by doing what you have.
Thomas Jefferson. The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
Life is too short to only hunt and fish on weekends!
If being a dumbass was fatal some of you would be on your death bed!
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Re: Passed this one up yesterday.
[Re: BOFF]
#472173
12/13/12 11:14 PM
12/13/12 11:14 PM
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alabama
BhamFred
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ya don't need a trough, though supplemental feeding will help if ya have a drought, or really cold winter. Planting enough summer and winter food plots helps a lot.
David Morris, of the Tecomate show many years ago turned a place in Ga into a real eye opener of a hunting property thru plots AND supplemental feeding AND trigger control. The genetics were there just not enough nutrition and age.
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
proud Cracker-Americaan
muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
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Re: Passed this one up yesterday.
[Re: BOFF]
#472177
12/13/12 11:14 PM
12/13/12 11:14 PM
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Round ‘bout there
Clem
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Round ‘bout there
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That's fine.
But it's not impossible that Alabama deer can't get any bigger than 110-130. They can, and do, even without "trough" food.
There's a stud buck photo in the GenForum that reportedly came off a tract west of Decatur that doesn't have trough food. Maybe that one's an anomaly.
"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
"Bible says you shouldn't put sugar in your cornbread." Dustin, 2013
"Best I can figure 97.365% of the general public is a paint chip eating, mouth breathing, certified dumbass." BCLC, 2020
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Re: Passed this one up yesterday.
[Re: BOFF]
#472180
12/13/12 11:15 PM
12/13/12 11:15 PM
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Hoover (poor section)
Johnal3
it froze over
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Thanks guys for all the comments, well most of them. Lol.
The hunt in itself is different things, to different people.
For those wondering why I didn't shoot him? I didn't shoot him for a number of reasons. Here are a few.
A. I shoot a longbow, and was hunting with a rifle that day. A rifle just doesn't "crank my tractor" shooting deer. I use a rifle to thin the doe population.
B. Though there is a greater percentage of me never seeing him again rather than seeing him, I'd rather my daughter shoot him.
C. This is property I have worked on, and managed since I was old enough to walk. I'm sure I actually crawled on a lot of the ground.
D. Although he may not get much bigger if he makes it next year, he sure isn't going to get any bigger if I shoot him now.
E. I got him on film, and basically, though it's not 100%, he would have been a dead deer, if, I had chose to shoot him.
etc. etc.
Just having the opportunity to see him was a Blessing. But how many of you have actually watched a big deer and how they react to their environment? There is a lot to be learned. You can't learn much with him dead on the ground. Much like some of you have learned by not shooting the first deer that comes out, you often get to see more deer and bigger deer.
Regardless, it is one of the biggest deer I have seen on the property, for any good length of time. Definitely bigger than anything I have taken on the property. He increased a lot in mass, from last year, I'd like to see what he can do for the next.
God Bless,
David B. Good post. I can see exactly why you didn't shoot. No since in killin him just to do it. I have watched a few big mature deer like that and enjoyed every minute of it. One or two that I let go, but most bit the dirt. A 4yo+ is gonna get it from me the majority of the time. If I have my bow its every time no doubt, unless they just don't "crank my tractor".
Last edited by hellfighter; 12/13/12 11:16 PM.
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Re: Passed this one up yesterday.
[Re: Clem]
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12/13/12 11:19 PM
12/13/12 11:19 PM
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Hoover (poor section)
Johnal3
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That's fine.
But it's not impossible that Alabama deer can't get any bigger than 110-130. They can, and do, even without "trough" food.
There's a stud buck photo in the GenForum that reportedly came off a tract west of Decatur that doesn't have trough food. Maybe that one's an anomaly.
I agree completely. There are "freaks of nature" out there, and could be killed in any county in the state. It's just 1 in a million chance to kill one. If someone wants to wait their whole life to do it, hey suit yourself!
This is Aldeer! The place people come to vent their frustrations and completely change their stance a few minutes later...
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Re: Passed this one up yesterday.
[Re: Johnal3]
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12/13/12 11:22 PM
12/13/12 11:22 PM
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Round ‘bout there
Clem
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Round ‘bout there
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No sense in killin him just to do it. If more guys would accept this line of thinking - even if they don't shoot 2 or 3 bucks a season - it would make a difference. Same with turkeys, too.
"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
"Bible says you shouldn't put sugar in your cornbread." Dustin, 2013
"Best I can figure 97.365% of the general public is a paint chip eating, mouth breathing, certified dumbass." BCLC, 2020
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