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Re: Big stink in Coffeeville over dog killing.......
[Re: deadeye]
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01/16/13 10:31 PM
01/16/13 10:31 PM
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BamaBart
Panty Wearin' Hunter
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I don't shoot dogs with collars while hunting. That's just me. I'm not saying I never will! ![grin grin](/forum/images/graemlins/default/grin.gif)
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Re: Big stink in Coffeeville over dog killing.......
[Re: bamachem]
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01/16/13 11:24 PM
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Posts: 743 Dothan, AL
WidowMaker10
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Don't stop now! Haven't hit 200 posts yet! ;-) Hell, I'm tryin!! Lol
“The good Lord gave you a body that can stand most anything. It’s your mind you have to convince.” - Vince Lombardi
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Re: Big stink in Coffeeville over dog killing.......
[Re: deadeye]
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01/17/13 05:26 AM
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Posts: 12,788 Thomasville, AL
Hogwild
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With all the tracking collar technology why cant a collar be developed which allows a virtural barrier to be programmed in where the property lines are so the dogs will get shocked and stop running? Kinda like the buried wire dog fencing. Just an outside the box thought. They already do.....
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Re: Big stink in Coffeeville over dog killing.......
[Re: Hogwild]
#505138
01/17/13 05:59 AM
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With all the tracking collar technology why cant a collar be developed which allows a virtural barrier to be programmed in where the property lines are so the dogs will get shocked and stop running? Kinda like the buried wire dog fencing. Just an outside the box thought. They already do..... Well I think if you care about your dogs that would be the collar to have..... problem solved and everybody is happy
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Re: Big stink in Coffeeville over dog killing.......
[Re: deadeye]
#505141
01/17/13 06:04 AM
01/17/13 06:04 AM
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Posts: 10,185 North Jackson
ridgestalker
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Any dog can get agressive when startled therefore justfy a bullet to the head. I had two walker coon dogs act like they were going to eat me up while sitting on my favorite rock one time. I say dog hunters should have minium 1000 acres to hunt and be charged with trespassing for their dogs.
"The Heavens declare the glory of God;and the firmament sheweth his handiwork" Pslam 19:1
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Re: I gotta ask!!!!
[Re: Hogwild]
#505157
01/17/13 06:28 AM
01/17/13 06:28 AM
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Posts: 4,713 War Eagle, USA
Bucktrot
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HW, now don't get pissed at me as I agree with most things you say but with all due respect to you, IMO, you're putting words into other people's mouths or maybe painting everyone on here with too broad a paintbrush. People are not giving more credit to dogs than simply what dogs do.
Many on here are not saying that such is the norm but that it happens. I have seen it where dog hunters had land surrounding a 80 or 200 acre tract and put them out on a track going into the land they didn't have permission to hunt.
I don't think anyone is suggesting the dogs are trained.
Last edited by Bucktrot; 01/17/13 07:48 AM.
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Re: Big stink in Coffeeville.......
[Re: bebo33]
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01/17/13 06:43 AM
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Posts: 14,831 If you only knew.....
Tru-Talker
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Booner
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If you only knew.....
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Oh well [img:center] ![](http://i1137.photobucket.com/albums/n518/alamuchee/photobucket-22111-1358425674064.jpg) [/img]
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Re: Big stink in Coffeeville over dog killing.......
[Re: deadeye]
#505180
01/17/13 07:12 AM
01/17/13 07:12 AM
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Posts: 599 Daphne AL
Baybuzzard
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The goings on in Florida too: Hunt club president arrested for killing dog By LYNNE HOUGH | news@srpressgazette.com Published: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 at 11:20 AM.
The president of a local hunt club was arrested last month for shooting a dog and then dragging the animal two miles down a country road - tied by a rope to his vehicle.
Originally charged with a felony, James Sousa, 48, was arrested on a warrant for animal cruelty. Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission (FWC) Officer Doug Berryman says he was notified last week the felony charge was being changed to a misdemeanor by the State Attorney's Office. He says whether or not the animal suffered is a determining factor in deciding the level of a charge. Sousa is the president of the Cabin Creek Hunt Club.
Berryman says Sousa shot the hunting dog in the shoulder with a Remington .270 rifle, killing the dog on or about Dec. 10th. Officials believe the dog was dead when Sousa tied it to his vehicle. A blood trail was left during the dragging, indicating the animal was dragged immediately following the shooting.
A report filed by Berryman says Sousa killed the animal because loose dogs in the area have been "running the deer" on the property of the hunting club. Sousa told the officer he heard three dogs running deer, but did not see them. Reports say he got out of his stand, looking for the dogs and heard them around his camp. He went there, saw one dog walking around, "not doing anything" and he shot the dog from the road, the dog fell dead at the corner of his porch. He got some rope, tied it to the dog and dragged it to Munson Hwy. at Indian Ford Road. He left the dog there "to make a statement to those people who are constantly running dogs illegally on his property."
The dog was one of three hunting dogs belonging to a man living on Indian Ford Rd. The dogs escaped from the pen at home and did not come back. While the owner was looking for his animals, he found the dead dog.
Officials with the FWC are addressing the problem of hunting dogs on unauthorized property.
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Re: I gotta ask!!!!
[Re: Bucktrot]
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01/17/13 07:19 AM
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Posts: 12,788 Thomasville, AL
Hogwild
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HW, now don't get pissed at me as I agree with most things you say but with all due respect to you, IMO, you're putting words into other people's mouths or maybe paint everyone on here with a broad paintbrush. People are not giving more credit to dogs than simply what dogs do.
Many on here are not saying that such is the norm but that it happens. I have seen it where dog hunters had land surrounding a 80 or 200 acre tract and put them out on a track going into the land they didn't have permission to hunt.
I don't think anyone is suggesting the dogs are trained.
Man, I ain't mad at anybody..... And, furthermore, I don't even dog-deer hunt! I just want people to THINK objectively and use common sense on BOTH sides!!!!
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Re: I gotta ask!!!!
[Re: deadeye]
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01/17/13 07:36 AM
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Posts: 4,713 War Eagle, USA
Bucktrot
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Good HW. Glad you're not. Anyway, dog hunters are their own worst enemy. Not all dog hunters are bad and dog hunting, which I grew up doing, has its place however, "its place" is slowly shrinking as time moves on. People have a right, if they chose, to not have dogs roaming on their property.
I think in order to dog hunt deer, there needs to be a min "contiguous" acreage. This may already be on the books... I don't know as I haven't dog hunted since the mid 80's and I no longer see dog hunters anywhere near where I hunt.
Certainly, hunters in general, dog and stalk, haven't helped themselves in the public relations area as a group.
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Re: I gotta ask!!!!
[Re: deadeye]
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01/17/13 07:59 AM
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Fattyfireplug
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I have had talks with multiple dog owners who let their dogs run free. I have yet to have even one show any concern or vow to stop the problem.
I ALWAYS let them know it's not safe for a dog to be running loose. And I leave it at that.
If it comes to me I'll take it to the pound, FAR away from their home. If it doesn't...well SSS happens...
Character is not developed in moments of temptation and trial. That is when it is intended to be used.
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Re: I gotta ask!!!!
[Re: deadeye]
#505224
01/17/13 08:09 AM
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Posts: 2,872 Florida
jacannon
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Have you all watched the vidio in the first post?
Grandma said...Always keep a gun close at hand, you just never know when you might run across some varmint that needs killing...
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