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Re: I gotta ask!!!! [Re: Firefighter Bill] #506839
01/18/13 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted By: Firefighter Bill
Originally Posted By: hunterbuck
On the first question, you're very naive if you don't think this happens on a regular basis from opening day of gun deer season to January 15th every season.



Back before they pretty much banned it altogether in Winston county it started about a week before BOW SEASON. Of course they were just "training their dogs". GW was told dozens of times and said he couldnt do anything unless he caught them with a gun. My response was that he need to brush up on the law. The definition of hunting according to the law is shooting, chasing or otherwise disturbing wildlife.
That would also mean if you have a dog chase a rabbit out of season in your own yard you could be found guilty of hunting! As states by the law....its chasing so it could be considered hunting.


I had much rather be tried by twelve than carried to my grave by six!!!!

Re: I gotta ask!!!! [Re: deadeye] #506957
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Millry,Al 2011 A case came up where a owner of a Briar Creek Lodge (Larry Adams) was charged with shooting a deer dog on his property. The court found him quilty and it cost him around $2700 for killing the dog.

Re: I gotta ask!!!! [Re: CB1] #507164
01/19/13 02:46 AM
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Of course, you never let that stop you from being a smart-ass!


I resemble that remark but it's beside the point. LOL!

If there isn't a law against running your dogs across someone elses property then there should be. No way in hell should people have to put up with other peoples dogs ruining their hunts every weekend. That's not right and the fact that the dog doesn't know any better is not a valid excuse to allow it to continue.

Guess I can start night hunting deer as long as I take a dog along with me. My excuse if caught? Well hell, the dog didn't know any better. See how lame that excuse sounds?


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Re: Big stink in Coffeeville over dog shooting........ [Re: deadeye] #507319
01/19/13 09:44 AM
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We hunted in Berry, Alabmaa for a couple of years and had problems with a local letting his hunting dogs run loose. He would then drive around and try to get ahead of them to kill a deer.
We contacted the Gamewarden about the dogs running our property daily. We were told that in order to do anything a paper trail had to be created to document the tresspassing of the dogs. We were told to capture the dogs and transport them to the Fayette County Humane Society and report that they were tresspassing on our leased property.
We contacted the Humane Society and they said yes they would take the dogs and document the report of tresspassing.Should the owner claim them, then there would be records to confirm our complaint.If they were not claimed, they would either be adopted or put down like any other dog. One slight problem, we would have to keep the dogs until they were open which is your basic M-F, 8-5 schedule.
This sounded like a load of crap to me. What do you think would happen if this idiot saw us with his dogs? Looks to me like he could report us for stealing his dogs?

Re: Big stink in Coffeeville over dog shooting........ [Re: deadeye] #507374
01/19/13 11:00 AM
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Yup, I guess it's a risk you'd take. I haven't hunted deer with dogs for 30 years, and I coon hunted until about 7 years ago, and I was pretty protective of my hounds. I'd say its dangerous business messing with someone's dogs.

If they are actually heading them onto your land on a regular basis it should be pretty easy to catch them, I know I paid a few trespass fines because my dogs didn't fall off a coon track when it crossed a property line. People being such asses about coons and frogs and such never made sense to me. I miss the time when people would hear your hounds at night at come out on a gravel road to listen to them with you till they treed, these days people are so afraid of the world around them they either call the cops or come out shooting if they see lights in the woods.


Re: I gotta ask!!!! [Re: Todd1700] #507447
01/19/13 01:01 PM
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Yall check out the article and especially the comments on al.com (Bham News)that covers this story. Pathetic!

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Re: I gotta ask!!!! [Re: rackdisaster] #507492
01/19/13 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted By: rackdisaster
Yall check out the article and especially the comments on al.com (Bham News)that covers this story. Pathetic!


Those comments echo the same sentiment that is in this thread. Have you read the article? They turned out two packs of dogs on 67 acres. The dogs were killed 900 yards (over a half mile) from the property line.

If true justice were served both parties should be prosecuted. They should arrest the dog hunter for simply being dumbasses. 67 acres, really?



"Some men are mere hunters; others are turkey hunters."

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Re: I gotta ask!!!! [Re: BC] #507515
01/19/13 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted By: BC
They turned out two packs of dogs on 67 acres. The dogs were killed 900 yards (over a half mile) from the property line.


67 Acres???!!! They knew good and damn well what they were doing and they knew good and damn well they were hunting someone elses property. Sorry guys, looks like your dogs paid the price for you law breaking stupidity.

On a side note, DON'T clic on AL.com. It's a liberal ass tree hugging website that depends on YOUR CLICKS for ratings.

Last edited by IDOT; 01/19/13 03:38 PM.

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Re: I gotta ask!!!! [Re: deadeye] #507527
01/19/13 03:53 PM
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Does the law apply to shooting dogs with a leash attached to em but no one on the other end.Just had two of them basterds running all around me barking.One had a leash on...can I legally shoot him?I think he was chasing birds with intent to do bodily harm.

Re: I gotta ask!!!! [Re: trox28] #507566
01/19/13 05:03 PM
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They turned out two packs of dogs on 67 acres. The dogs were killed 900 yards (over a half mile) from the property line.



67 acres? That is ridiculous. You would have to be a sub-imbecilic moron not to realize that your dogs are going to run off a tract of land that small and onto someone else's place. Which means the truth of the situation is that they "JUST DIDN'T"T GIVE A S###." And there is the crux of the whole dog hunting controversy in Alabama right now.


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Re: I gotta ask!!!! [Re: Todd1700] #507616
01/19/13 06:29 PM
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Sounds like a typical don't give a rip what anyone thinks dog hunter. Dog hunters around here hunt any land they wanna hunt, they'll push from 1 county road to the next county road. I am not at all surprised by the details of this story.

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