Well, I am certain that I am right.
I just got tired of arguing with a bunch of know-it-all Aldeer Lawyers.

The Game and Fish Regulations that provide for Hunting Seasons and activities with dogs supercedes the civil law that Andy is referencing. You are allowed to release your dogs to hunt. As long as you are showing due diligence to control your dogs and their actions.....then the accidental trespass of the dog onto another's property is not illegal.

I will readily admit that it is a problem due to the inconsiderate actions of some. But, not illegal.

I understand your stance on shooting hunting dogs and I personally agree with you. I have killed a few feral dogs and a few that some asshole threw out and were about starved to death. I have never killed a hunting dog. Now if I had to deal with it on a daily basis like some who knows how I would feel. I am fortunate that if I ever hear a dog it's a long ways away.


I am curious what your stance is on a man leasing a piece of property and pouring hundreds of man hours and thousands of dollars into it, and being run over by dog hunters every weekend. Do you think that should be illegal or do you think that's just his tough luck?

I for one am tired of my neighbors deer comeing onto my property. I have went and talked with him on several occasions but nothing seems to be done about it. I have started a paper trail with the authorities and now I think it is time I do something more drastic. The next one I see on my place I`m gonna shoot the heck out of it. If he is going to put out all that money on feed and foodplots the least he could do is keep his deer off my land because he knows I don`t want them on it.

Like I already stated, 2 wrongs do not make a right!!!
Use your head and pick your spots wisely.
Way too many people have unrealistic expectations concerning hunting. As in, if you want to manage a property for trophies, don't lease in an area surrounded by brown and down hunters. If you want to see a lot of deer, don't lease in an area with a low population. And, if you cannot tolerate hearing people whoop and holler and dogs run, don't lease a property surrounded by dog hunting Clubs.

I am not saying that it is right for the dogs to get on the property. I am just saying have realistic expectations and don't break the Law because you were inconvenienced.

And reality is, it is simply an inconvenience. Despite the postings of some, occasional dogs running across a property don't 'ruin' the hunting in the area.

Hog, that's a two way street. Say a person owns that land. It's been in the family for three generations. He's seen his grandfather and father bust their balls trying to earn a living off the land. He grew up hunting there. Killed his first buck there. Wants his children to do the same. It's just his personal dream to live a good life and raise a family on the old homestead. The area is a good area for deer hunting, so lots of the neighboring properties are leased up by dog clubs. The rogue type. The kind that do not care where their dogs roam or who's hunt they ruin. What would you say then? CD.

What am I supposed to say??

We can debate all types of hypothetical scenarios.....But, they are not going to change the fact that many of you are promoting an illegal, unethical act.

If I had the answers, they would have hired me instead of Chuck!

It doesn't matter if it hurts or helps the deer hunting. THEY DON'T WANT THEM THERE PERIOD!!!!!!! No matter if it hurts them or runs 10 booners by them. I don't understand why it's so hard for some to realize that they don't want dogs running on their land for any reason. That is their right and should be respected.

And you have not seen me dispute that!!!!

Thank you for answering the question.

Danny, please show me one instance where a G&F REGULATION will trump a CRIMINAL STATUTE. One is a rule, the other is a LAW. The rules cannot bypass the law.

Also, there is no game and fish regulation or rule that says dogs crossing property lines is not a prosecutable offense.

It's sad that you are so incredibly blinded by what you've been told by fellow dog hunters that you actually believe you can be above the law.

Andy, in your all-knowing arrogance, you are too obstinate to admit you are wrong.

The Hunting Dogs are allowed BY LAW to be released to hunt.
That is NOT 'running at large'.

Call Montgomery and ask....

Until then, you are just trying to stir crap and bully people into believing you.

for me it wouldn't be the first time ,,,, no problems here and thanks

They said once the dogs cross the property line, they can be considered to be "at large" and the owner of the dogs can be held liable. Also, it can be difficult to enforce, but it has been used in the past.

Do me a favor - can you please post up the LAW that says hunting dogs can be released to hunt as an exception to leash laws and the statute regarding dogs at large? I've looked but can't find any law that exempts hunting dogs from these laws.

Laws prohibit actions.
You don't have to have a Law to do something.....just Laws against doing it.

Do a little research yourself.....I don't have to, I already have.
The Law does say that you have to supply the dog with a collar that has the owner's info and that you cannot turn them aloose on a Public Right of Way with intent to enter another's property. But, you do have the right to hunt with them.

You are talking about pets and yard dogs with all your posts and in your searches......not Hunting dogs!
But, it probably does not matter since most of the people you hear complaining about dogs are talking about those same type dogs......NOT hunting dogs. They just lump them all together.

At least you know what a law is. Now post one that says hunting dogs are exempt from the law I posted...

If there's not a law exempting hunting dogs, then it's pretty clear that they are subject to the law posted.

It's very simple Danny. You say the law exists exempting hunting dogs. Please post it. Call Montgomery if you have to. Surely the G&F Dept can give you the statute number since they will certainly know if one exists.

Dogs at large in any capacity and for any reason on the property of another is an illegal action, by law, subjecting the dogs owner to criminal prosecution.

First and foremost, I have absolutely nothing to prove to you personally.

Secondly, I don't care that it hurts your feelings to be wrong.

And thirdly.....you ARE wrong!

I don't have a dog in this fight but you keep telling him he's wrong hog...so yes you do have something to prove..Prove why he's wrong.Chem has posted every law he's mentioned proving why he's right...if he's wrong like you say prove it..Again I'm not in this at all and ain't trying to side with anyone.I would just like to see how he's wrong other than you just saying so.

Myself and a couple friends started a club once in Autuaga Co, and let me tell you about some doghunters. We worked our butts off on that place, and there were a group of locals who would turn their dogs out on the county road (our property was to the south of the said road) and run them right thru our place to the little 80 acre spot they had behind us. We actually met the GW one afternoon after numerous occasions, he stopped to check our rifles because we were coming out our gate to go to one of our areas, we were all legal with guns unloaded. We ask him to do something about the locals and he said qoute" these guys have hunted this property for years before you leased it from the paper co, we cant do anything about it, just give them time, they will stop hunting it when they realize its being leased". What a crock of sh1t. Wouldnt do his job and confront the outlaws. One of our members was actually shot at thru the woods after confronting one of these sob's. We left that place after 2 years of never ending trespassing from the dog hunters. So you have 60-80 acres and think its right to turn your dogs out on someone else and run thru their property? I dont think so, and glad I no longer have to hunt in areas where this goes on.

OK.....just read the Law he keeps referencing and then dissect the legal language.

It does NOT pertain to HUNTING!
The act of legal hunting with the dogs makes it applicable.

It don't say" hunting dog"but it does say "any dog"..How does that not include hunting dogs?Just me but any dog seems like it would pertain to...well any dog.