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Re: Discussion: AL laws regarding Trespass of Hunting Dogs and legality of shooting them [Re: trox28] #508434
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Hell, lets just email DCNR and see what they have to say.


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Hell, lets just email DCNR and see what they have to say.


That would be way too logical of a move......LOL

Ever wonder why, even in the permit counties, no one has been charged because their hunting dogs accidentally crossed a property line????

Re: Discussion: AL laws regarding Trespass of Hunting Dogs and legality of shooting them [Re: Hogwild] #508452
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Hell, lets just email DCNR and see what they have to say.


That would be way too logical of a move......LOL

Ever wonder why, even in the permit counties, no one has been charged because their hunting dogs accidentally crossed a property line????


They need to start charging then.

I feel like you are clouded a bit by your own passion for hunting with dogs...which of course is understandable.


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Re: Discussion: AL laws regarding Trespass of Hunting Dogs and legality of shooting them [Re: bamachem] #508453
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this whole thread is horseshitt, you cannot legally kill a deer hunting dog chasing a deer. Ya'll are stretching and convoluting the law to fit yer pre notion of how ya want it to go. Just fgo out there and shoot the hell out of those doga and see just how much shitt you end up in...

thus endeth todays lesson....


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Re: Discussion: AL laws regarding Trespass of Hunting Dogs and legality of shooting them [Re: BhamFred] #508461
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Originally Posted By: BhamFred
this whole thread is horseshitt, you cannot legally kill a deer hunting dog chasing a deer. Ya'll are stretching and convoluting the law to fit yer pre notion of how ya want it to go. Just fgo out there and shoot the hell out of those doga and see just how much shitt you end up in...

thus endeth todays lesson....

Thanks for the lesson Troy. It doesn't really matter. Dog hunting will be banned eventually and the problem will be solved.


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Re: Discussion: AL laws regarding Trespass of Hunting Dogs and legality of shooting them [Re: PaschalBD] #508484
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Originally Posted By: tiderbd
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this whole thread is horseshitt, you cannot legally kill a deer hunting dog chasing a deer. Ya'll are stretching and convoluting the law to fit yer pre notion of how ya want it to go. Just fgo out there and shoot the hell out of those doga and see just how much shitt you end up in...

thus endeth todays lesson....

Thanks for the lesson Troy. It doesn't really matter. Dog hunting will be banned eventually and the problem will be solved.


No, unfortunately, it won't.
That is because of the fact that many, if not most, of the dogs that are causing the problems are NOT hunting dogs with the legally required collar and identification.....much less tracking collars and responsible owners.

THOSE dogs are subject to the Law that is referenced.
And you see how well that is working..... LOL

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Is that what was happening in the counties where they've already been banned? Just non collard dogs banned in those counties?


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Re: Discussion: AL laws regarding Trespass of Hunting Dogs and legality of shooting them [Re: bamachem] #508501
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I have not read all of this post there is an artical in the Huntsville Times paper this morning (Sunday) about dog hunting and someone shooting dog.

Re: Discussion: AL laws regarding Trespass of Hunting Dogs and legality of shooting them [Re: bamachem] #508503
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Outlaw hunters AND mostly just strays and 'house dogs' running deer are causing 98% of the problems. At least in my humble opinion.

Re: Discussion: AL laws regarding Trespass of Hunting Dogs and legality of shooting them [Re: BhamFred] #508516
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Originally Posted By: BhamFred
this whole thread is horseshitt, you cannot legally kill a deer hunting dog chasing a deer. Ya'll are stretching and convoluting the law to fit yer pre notion of how ya want it to go. Just fgo out there and shoot the hell out of those doga and see just how much shitt you end up in...

thus endeth todays lesson....


Careful up there on that high horse. Wouldn't want this thread to turn into a discussion about hunting on the clock or shooting deer in Liberty Park....

The law plainly exempts anyone from prosecution when shooting a dog that is threatening people or wildlife. Don't get any more clear than the way it's written.


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Re: Discussion: AL laws regarding Trespass of Hunting Dogs and legality of shooting them [Re: Hogwild] #508527
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Originally Posted By: Hogwild
OK.....just read the Law he keeps referencing and then dissect the legal language.

It does NOT pertain to HUNTING!
The act of legal hunting with the dogs makes it applicable.



any dog or dogs...

Show me the law or regulation that specifically excludes "hunting dogs" from this statute?

You can't, because there are no exceptions except for municipalities.

Now that more people know about this statute I hope they will use it to demand enforcement instead of resorting to shooting the dogs.

Ignorance is bliss I guess!

Be careful with your dogs Danny! Don't need any arrests on your record!


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Re: Discussion: AL laws regarding Trespass of Hunting Dogs and legality of shooting them [Re: bamachem] #508528
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No, that is YOUR lame interpretation, Andy.......you know the one.....that the dog was gonna run down, catch and harm the deer that you were trying to kill? LOL

Ironic, huh?
The dog might harm him. But, my real purpose was to kill him.

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Originally Posted By: bamachem
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OK.....just read the Law he keeps referencing and then dissect the legal language.

It does NOT pertain to HUNTING!
The act of legal hunting with the dogs makes it applicable.



any dog or dogs...

Show me the law or regulation that specifically excludes "hunting dogs" from this statute?

You can't, because there are no exceptions except for municipalities.

Now that more people know about this statute I hope they will use it to demand enforcement instead of resorting to shooting the dogs.

Ignorance is bliss I guess!

Be careful with your dogs Danny! Don't need any arrests on your record!


And it has not yet occurred to you why I KNOW it is not against the Law????? wink

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Prove me wrong and I will happily admit I am wrong.

Post a law, a case, a judgement, anything other than an opinion.

If you find anything concrete proving the applicability of this law does not cover hunting dogs, I will go back and edit the original post to reflect what you find.

Until then, I cited law and you cited your opinion. We all know the saying about opinions and aresholes....


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I can't post what doesn't exist!!!

There are NO cases because the Law you are referencing is NOT applicable!

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Sounded like Troy was short, to the point and very clear on the matter. He probably knows the game laws better than anybody else on here that would deal with dogs and deer.

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Originally Posted By: timbercruiser
Sounded like Troy was short, to the point and very clear on the matter. He probably knows the game laws better than anybody else on here that would deal with dogs and deer.


He said you can get in trouble for shooting dogs. None of us doubt that. There is a loophole in the law that allows for shooting a dog. Threatening another animal happens to be enough of an extenuating circumstance to exempt someone from prosecution for cruelty to animals.

He said not a word about the dogs at large statute being applicable or not applicable to hunting dogs.

There is case law to back that one up too...


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Originally Posted By: tiderbd
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this whole thread is horseshitt, you cannot legally kill a deer hunting dog chasing a deer. Ya'll are stretching and convoluting the law to fit yer pre notion of how ya want it to go. Just fgo out there and shoot the hell out of those doga and see just how much shitt you end up in...

thus endeth todays lesson....

Thanks for the lesson Troy. It doesn't really matter. Dog hunting will be banned eventually and the problem will be solved.


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http://www.calhouncounty.org/animal/laws.html

Another legal opinion from a law enforcement viewpoint...


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The law basically states that you are responsible for your dog, and it must remain on your property, unless you are with it. If your dog wonders onto the property of another, and you're not in control of that dog, then you can be cited and found guilty of a misdemeanor in a court of law. Not only are you responsible for the fines and court costs but you can be held liable for the costs of confiscating the dog and its internment at the local animal shelter until you return to claim your dog.


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