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Re: Ammo prices
[Re: jmj120]
#541049
02/23/13 09:15 PM
02/23/13 09:15 PM
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Matt Brock
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I'll take em by any means legal. Playing the game is fun, and I'd rather every hunt go that way. With that said, I EAT turkey and like putting them in the freezer too.
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Re: Ammo prices
[Re: 3toe]
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02/23/13 10:04 PM
02/23/13 10:04 PM
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n2deer
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Don't make turkey hunting as complicated as deer hunting.
Good thing I don't shoot those evil Nitros or TSS. I might be tempted to shoot one over 40. I thought you got some.
Do you want to hear him gobble, or do you want to kill him.
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Re: Ammo prices
[Re: jmj120]
#541158
02/24/13 05:43 AM
02/24/13 05:43 AM
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Todd1700
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If they'll pattern better than what I'm using, I'll spend the money. jmj120 the patterns the denser than lead stuff will give you are the reason I and most people shoot them. Back when I was using lead I cannot tell you how many different chokes and shells I tried in 4 different guns attempting to get what most consider a good pattern at 40 yards. Maybe I was just unlucky but I never found a number 4 or 5 shell that threw a good pattern to that distance. I found one lead shell (Win Supreme 6's) that would consistent put around 100 pellets inside 10 inches at 40 yards but lead 6's are really running out of steam at 40 yards. Now compare that to the Hevi-13 6's I use now. They consistently put at or above 200 pellets inside ten inches at 40 yards. That's twice the pattern density of the lead shell. And they are definitely not on the fading edge of their killing power at that distance either. Worth the extra money to me for that much difference in performance. You betcha. It's not like I'm going on a dove shoot with them. If I limit out in a turkey season that's 5 shells.
The best index to a person’s character is (a) how he treats people who can’t do him any good, and (b) how he treats people who can’t fight back. - Abigail van Buren
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Re: Ammo prices
[Re: Todd1700]
#541183
02/24/13 07:23 AM
02/24/13 07:23 AM
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jmj120
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If they'll pattern better than what I'm using, I'll spend the money. jmj120 the patterns the denser than lead stuff will give you are the reason I and most people shoot them. Back when I was using lead I cannot tell you how many different chokes and shells I tried in 4 different guns attempting to get what most consider a good pattern at 40 yards. Maybe I was just unlucky but I never found a number 4 or 5 shell that threw a good pattern to that distance. I found one lead shell (Win Supreme 6's) that would consistent put around 100 pellets inside 10 inches at 40 yards but lead 6's are really running out of steam at 40 yards. Now compare that to the Hevi-13 6's I use now. They consistently put at or above 200 pellets inside ten inches at 40 yards. That's twice the pattern density of the lead shell. And they are definitely not on the fading edge of their killing power at that distance either. Worth the extra money to me for that much difference in performance. You betcha. It's not like I'm going on a dove shoot with them. If I limit out in a turkey season that's 5 shells. Thanks.. I may have to give them a try. Give me a little credit, I did buy one of them fancy Rhino chokes... I'm going to pattern it next week if the weather holds. I'll say again, if any of ya'll get the chance read: "The Old Pro Turkey Hunter" by Gene Nunnery. I read it before every season. It explains best what I'm trying to say.
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Re: Ammo prices
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#541186
02/24/13 07:34 AM
02/24/13 07:34 AM
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BhamFred
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I'll take em by any means legal. Playing the game is fun, and I'd rather every hunt go that way. With that said, I EAT turkey and like putting them in the freezer too. would you shoot one off the roost limb if he didn't fly down and you were close enough.....?
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
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Re: Ammo prices
[Re: BhamFred]
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02/24/13 07:39 AM
02/24/13 07:39 AM
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jmj120
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I'll take em by any means legal. Playing the game is fun, and I'd rather every hunt go that way. With that said, I EAT turkey and like putting them in the freezer too. would you shoot one off the roost limb if he didn't fly down and you were close enough.....? Sounds like he would. The only thing worse than a bushwacker is a roost shooter.
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Re: Ammo prices
[Re: BhamFred]
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02/24/13 08:32 AM
02/24/13 08:32 AM
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Matt Brock
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would you shoot one off the roost limb if he didn't fly down and you were close enough.....?
Not going to say I wouldn't. Would depend. I have had several birds fly from roost tree to other limbs and trees in search of the "hen" on the ground. THAT bird I'm killing every day. I still called him up, be it from the ground or tree tops. Having this discussion is pointless. It is almost like saying that unless you kill a 140" buck from the ground in carhartt coveralls with a recurve bow then you are a scumbag hunter that never deserved to kill the buck anyway. If it is LEGAL who cares? Some people get satisfaction from legally killing anything. It doesn't have to be done your way to bring satisfaction. If only hunting a certain way brings you enjoyment, then only hunt that way.
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Re: Ammo prices
[Re: jmj120]
#541233
02/24/13 09:17 AM
02/24/13 09:17 AM
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outdoorobsession
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Im with Matt on this one! Ive been turkey hunting now about 40 years..Ive got tons of respect for gobblers. I outfiited for Osceolas for a decade, as well as easterns for 15 years...and we killed them anyway you could! Ill ambush em, stalk em , low crawl hundreds of yards to them...and shoot them at 60 yards if I cant get em closer!
Believe me..nothing better then calling them in and having them strutting and gobbling at 15 yards...but Im there to HUNT a TURKEY..and I will HUNT them using every legal method I can...however I do frown on shooting them with rifles...even where its legal.
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Re: Ammo prices
[Re: jmj120]
#541260
02/24/13 09:59 AM
02/24/13 09:59 AM
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blade
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I honestly don't care how anyone else wants to kill one. It's supposed to be fun for you, so do what you want as long as its legal. But, I have no desire to shoot one that I haven't called in. I enjoy the challenge of the hunt. I figure if I don't shoot him today I just get another chance at him another day. Kind of like catch and release, haha. It is a challenge though to hunt those gobblers that have been crawled to, missed, and otherwise spooked etc.
Last edited by blade; 02/24/13 10:01 AM.
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Re: Ammo prices
[Re: jmj120]
#541324
02/24/13 12:30 PM
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t123winters
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I have read on several different post about calling being such a small part of killing turkeys,then get on this post and see nothing but contradiction,I will tell you I have called in hundreds upon hundreds of gobblers,so calling is the easiest part of killing birds,I will still say good woodsman ship is the key,A man that can stalk up on a mature gobbler,and kill him has done way more than the man who called one in,and don't think for a minute I wont put a stalk on a bird if I get the rite ground.
I have been at this for a long time and enjoy sitting down and working a bird,and don't care to sit with him all day if need be,I love it.So I can see these guys point,but that is not all there is to turkey HUNTING,if you sit down and work that bird in and 50 yards is all he is gonna come,and you got the gun/ammo to get it done,then I say lay him out.Some people don't get to hunt everyday for what ever reason,and I am one of those guys,and I do want to fill my tags just as much as the every day hunter.....
I would rather be turkey hunting
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Re: Ammo prices
[Re: t123winters]
#541375
02/24/13 02:24 PM
02/24/13 02:24 PM
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jmj120
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I have read on several different post about calling being such a small part of killing turkeys,then get on this post and see nothing but contradiction,I will tell you I have called in hundreds upon hundreds of gobblers,so calling is the easiest part of killing birds,I will still say good woodsman ship is the key,A man that can stalk up on a mature gobbler,and kill him has done way more than the man who called one in,and don't think for a minute I wont put a stalk on a bird if I get the rite ground.
I have been at this for a long time and enjoy sitting down and working a bird,and don't care to sit with him all day if need be,I love it.So I can see these guys point,but that is not all there is to turkey HUNTING,if you sit down and work that bird in and 50 yards is all he is gonna come,and you got the gun/ammo to get it done,then I say lay him out.Some people don't get to hunt everyday for what ever reason,and I am one of those guys,and I do want to fill my tags just as much as the every day hunter..... To each his own. Sneaking up on a bird and shooting him, to me, just gives me a dead bird, no memory. I've taken into the 3 digits of gobblers, so just a dead bird means nothing to me. I've called and had them run dead to me from a couple hundred yards away and not shot them, just because there's no memory. Again, that's just me, to each his own.
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Re: Ammo prices
[Re: t123winters]
#541395
02/24/13 03:54 PM
02/24/13 03:54 PM
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Posts: 11,853 Huntsville
JUGHEAD
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I have read on several different post about calling being such a small part of killing turkeys,then get on this post and see nothing but contradiction That was EXACTLY what I thought when I read the posts by a few on here. But, I try not to wade into too many stupid arguments these days so I just let it go.
Last edited by JUGHEAD; 02/24/13 07:11 PM.
"The only reason I shoot a 3.5" shell for turkeys is because they don't make a 4" one." - t123winters
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Re: Ammo prices
[Re: jmj120]
#541566
02/24/13 08:25 PM
02/24/13 08:25 PM
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Posts: 12,409 Sylacauga, AL
poorcountrypreacher
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Booner
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Although my dad started taking me hunting when I was very small, he wasn't really one of my first hunting mentors. I already knew a lot before ever getting to go by watching Elmer J. Fudd and Yosemite Sam. Although I was only 5 or 6 years old, I soon figured out that Elmer was incompetent and I didn't wanta be like him. But Yosemite Sam had a strategy that I always found appealing - any time he got the chance he was blasting something. "OK, Rabbit! If you ain't out of that hole by the count of 3, I'm a blasting you out!" So any time I am faced with an ethical dilemma while turkey hunting, I revert back to my younger days - I'm a blasting him. Just make sure you can kill him and not wound him.
All the labor of man is for his mouth, and yet the appetite is not filled.
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