Suffice to say you'll never understand. Turkeys were probably actually easier to kill back then because you didn't have a bunch of yahoos out there calling every two seconds because they've watched too many hunting shows on tv.
By the time an Indian boy was 8 or 9 years old he could make any sound the wild turkey made.
At any rate good luck to you in whatever method you use to harvest turkeys.

Ha I bet some of them Indians just drug their tee pee's out to the edge of a field and shot turkeys out of them over some homemade decoys. The other Indians probably looked down on them.

Real turkey Hunters should not even have to shoot them. If you can't get them close enough to knock them out with the butt of the gun then you didn't call him up. Of course, it should only be a wood stock gun as synthetic would be an unfair advantage. Kind of like the difference between aluminum and wood in baseball.

Brentm, you reckon any of those unethical, teepee hunting Indians ever used a squealing hen call to kill one? That would REALLY be gangsta.

I bet the first one of them Indians that saved a pair of turkey wings and started beating them together to sound like a fight instead of just yelping on a wingbone had to have a sit-down with the chief the next day.
One of them lobbed an arrow into a drove of gobblers and killed one at 46 steps and they made him stay at the camp with the women and clean fish for the rest of the season.

Damn, a Brave getting left at the camp with all them squaws? I bet they didn't let him go the next time they went buffalo hunting and drove them over the cliffs, either.

I heard the folks at Old Gobbler looked that indian up in a history book and posthumously banned him from their site.

Had to have been a HTW(heavier than wood) arra to kill one that far

this...I've killed plenty of birds with Federal 5's but I've also not killed a few as well at that 40-45 step mark...if you have well patterned gun with best shells you should not have to shoot more than 5-7 a season anyway. I'll gladly pay an extra $7 per shell per year...that totals $35-$40 more YEAR...if you can't afford that you can't afford to hunt...I will admit the patterning part gets pricey, but you should only have to go through that once and there is not much worse than a missed or injured turkey...

have to disagree with that...If a bird is at 200 and I call him in to with in 50 but he will not come further b/c of a ridge, bench, etc.. I've called him up. JMO

the difference is obvious. Turkey population would be decimated if you could kill with a rifle. I could easily kill 5 the first 2 days of the season most years....

the 75 yd. debate is different. Whether or not you call one up is relative to the situation but if one comes 400 yds to hang up at 75 the hunter's done a pretty good job...I personally would never shoot one at that distance but that's just me. Now if someone is ambushing on fields and shooting at any distance that's not turkey hunting.

I still ain't heard an answer to whats the difference in shooting a bird at 30 yards with a rifle or with a shotgun....besides the legality thingy here in Bama.....

We can agree to disagree, but if that happens to me, I ain't called him in. I've yelped a few times and had them fly across the river and land in a tree 50 yards from me and sit there until 10 Am, the fly the other way. My opinion: I didn't call him in.
To me there's a difference is scratching out a few yelps on a call and having a gobbler come a few yards in your direction. When you call them in, you know it.
Question.......Say there's a gobbler 200 yards across a cow pasture moving away from you. You yelp a few times, he turns around and runs 100 yards toward you then stops. After a few minutes he goes the other way.. Did you call him in? I say no.

I agree 100%, but there is no shame in killing one at 50 after calling them up. Also relative to where you hunt...I bet I've called in over 100 birds to with in 30 yds that I could never get a shot at because of a shelf, gully or large rock...that's a situation a lot of hunters in other areas of Alabama don't get to/ have to experience very often. Every where I've hunted south of Jackson Co. a turkey at 30 yds in front of your barrel is dead 9 out of 10 times.

Also, I've killed turkeys at 10 steps after 10 minutes of calling and I've killed turkeys at 50 steps after 4 hours...I can assure you the satisfaction of the killing one after 4 hours outdoes the satisfaction of the one killed after 10 minutes.

Chief meshootemlong says " give man turkey and he eat for day. Give man tss and he become Eddie Salter."

I don't think anybody cares to answer such a stupid question which is why you haven't gotten an answer. There's just something about taking a turkey hunting ethics lesson from a guy that whacked a bunch of big deer inside a high fence and brags about them accordingly that just doesn't sit well with me, but I'm kinda strange like that.

there is none "legally"...If the law read that you can hunt with a rifle, but you can not exceed a shot of over 75 yds.

I agree - I don't even keep the beards and spurs from those "flash" hunts/kills where I make a couple clucks or yelps and the turkey either flies down in my lap or comes running to the end of my gun barrel. Can't see how anybody could take any pride in those types of kills. Got to admit that the turkey nuggets taste the same though!

I found a few boxes of "Heavy Shot" in my ammo cabinet. I must have bought it a few years ago. Is this the TSS everyone is raving about?
I assume TSS is tungsten?

you might notice ass hat that I haven't made any judgements on rifles and such, just asked questions.

like I need advise from a newbie turkey hunter that thinks he has it figgered out after a couple of years. Laughable.

If I yelped a few times and a turkey flew up into a tree I'd throw away that call....

I'm not talkin about calling turkeys into trees, I'm talkin about calling a turkey from several hundred yds out and getting him to walk/ run/ strut to with in 50...My point is in some situations that is just as sporting as calling one in to 10 yds...terrain is huge when calling in birds.

I also would never shoot one at 100 yds, so while I would say you did call that field turkey in, you didn't call him in close enough...

and by your standards what is the correct distance? 30 yds? so you wouldn't shoot one at 33? what if you set up on a bird at 100 yds, started calling and there happened to be another bird at 50 that walked to with in 30...covering 20 yds, but I called the bird in from 100 yds to 45 yds. covering 55 yds...who "earned" their turkey the most????