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Re: Ammo prices [Re: jmj120] #541971
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Quote: If I yelped a few times and a turkey flew up into a tree I'd throw away that call....

Go back and read it. I've had them fly across the river when I yelped and lite in a tree. That's not calling up a turkey.
You can split hairs all you want. I've been doing this 40 years, when I call one up, I know it.
To each his own. I'm happy with my peni$ size so I don't have to get my self worth from a turkey hunt.

Re: Ammo prices [Re: jmj120] #541974
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If I yelped a few times and he flew up in a tree looking for me he wouldn't be there very long.

I aint been doing this for 40 years, but I know when a turkey is looking for me. Nothing about self worth, more about killing the turkey im hunting.

Man yall make this seem complicated. Hunt turkey= Me shooting turkey if I can.


Do you want to hear him gobble, or do you want to kill him.
Re: Ammo prices [Re: BhamFred] #541978
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Originally Posted By: BhamFred
I still ain't heard an answer to whats the difference in shooting a bird at 30 yards with a rifle or with a shotgun....besides the legality thingy here in Bama.....


Besides the legality thing not a difference. Dead bird @ 30 yards

Was you going somewhere with this, this is fun.


Do you want to hear him gobble, or do you want to kill him.
Re: Ammo prices [Re: jmj120] #541980
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I was kidding about calling turkeys in to trees so lighten up...but as for penis size I'm not the one telling someone what a "real" turkey hunter's range should be....

By they way, I've only been turkey hunting for 22 years but when I call one up, I know it, too. And I'll go ahead and raise you one and say that killing one turkey in the mnts. of Jackson Co. is as hard as killing two turkeys in most other areas of Alabama. smile

Re: Ammo prices [Re: BhamFred] #542002
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Originally Posted By: BhamFred
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I still ain't heard an answer to whats the difference in shooting a bird at 30 yards with a rifle or with a shotgun....besides the legality thingy here in Bama.....
I don't think anybody cares to answer such a stupid question which is why you haven't gotten an answer. There's just something about taking a turkey hunting ethics lesson from a guy that whacked a bunch of big deer inside a high fence and brags about them accordingly that just doesn't sit well with me, but I'm kinda strange like that. smile


you might notice ass hat that I haven't made any judgements on rifles and such, just asked questions.

like I need advise from a newbie turkey hunter that thinks he has it figgered out after a couple of years. Laughable.


LMAO! Jughead (ass hat) you've done went and pissed Troy off!


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Re: Ammo prices [Re: JUGHEAD] #542015
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Originally Posted By: JUGHEAD
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I still ain't heard an answer to whats the difference in shooting a bird at 30 yards with a rifle or with a shotgun....besides the legality thingy here in Bama.....
I don't think anybody cares to answer such a stupid question which is why you haven't gotten an answer. There's just something about taking a turkey hunting ethics lesson from a guy that whacked a bunch of big deer inside a high fence and brags about them accordingly that just doesn't sit well with me, but I'm kinda strange like that. smile


Asshead, you must of grown a pussy, cause you argue just like a girl. Can't answer the question so you just change the subject and make accusations??? Pissant girl stuff.

Post pics of the "bunch of big deer (killed) inside a high fence and bragged on", I'll be waiting for you to PROVE that point. And don't say "everybody knows" because it won't wash....

just for the record I was just asking questions to get folks opinions, got some good ones till you got yer panties in a froth and made a fool of yourself. Girly boy.


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Re: Ammo prices [Re: jmj120] #542031
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Only answer I can come up with at thirty yards would be that it would be alot tougher to kill a turkey without tearing him all to pieces with a rifle than it would be a shotgun.
I'm still curious as to where this is going.

Re: Ammo prices [Re: BhamFred] #542046
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Originally Posted By: BhamFred
I'll be waiting for you to PROVE that point.
I would have to give 2 chits to dive into proving anything that would hold up in a court of law. Your reaction tells me all I need to know pal. smile


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Re: Ammo prices [Re: BhamFred] #542051
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Originally Posted By: BhamFred
like I need advise from a newbie turkey hunter that thinks he has it figgered out after a couple of years. Laughable.
I got it totally dialed in pal. It's the most fun one can have with his clothes on in my humble opinion whether you kill one or not (most of the time not for me). I ain't got a thing to prove to anybody....just enjoying God's creation with no "legend in my own mind" image to try to uphold. You should try it friend....it's quite a blast. wink


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Re: Ammo prices [Re: BrentM] #542057
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Originally Posted By: BrentM
Only answer I can come up with at thirty yards would be that it would be alot tougher to kill a turkey without tearing him all to pieces with a rifle than it would be a shotgun.
I'm still curious as to where this is going.


Just shoot him in the head - no meat wasted and adds a little challenge, especially if you only use open sights. But really at 30 yards whether it is a rifle, shotgun, or bow you still end up with a dead turkey so it doesn't seem like it really makes that much of a difference.


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Re: Ammo prices [Re: n2deer] #542124
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Originally Posted By: n2deer
If I yelped a few times and he flew up in a tree looking for me he wouldn't be there very long.

I aint been doing this for 40 years, but I know when a turkey is looking for me. Nothing about self worth, more about killing the turkey im hunting.

Man yall make this seem complicated. Hunt turkey= Me shooting turkey if I can.



You and I think alike,I'm not gonna sit there and question whether I called the bird up if he is standing within shooting range,he's fixin to get his head peppered and ride home with me,I get just as much satisfaction from a ten minute hunt as I do from hunting one for half the day,dead turkey is the end result,if I wanted to just go call one up and fool with him for a while I'd leave my gun at the house and take a camera

Re: Ammo prices [Re: BhamFred] #542153
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Originally Posted By: BhamFred
I still ain't heard an answer to whats the difference in shooting a bird at 30 yards with a rifle or with a shotgun....besides the legality thingy here in Bama.....


Troy, I'll give it a shot - its way harder to kill one with a rifle at 30 yards than with a shotgun. wink

I base that on experience; not mine, but one of the guys my dad hunted with back in the bad old days of the 60s when rifles were legal in AL. Everybody in his group carried a shotgun and a rifle, and if the turkey didn't get close enough for the shotgun, they used the rifle. Unethical? The thought never entered anyone's mind. Their goal was to kill turkeys, and they all did a pretty good job of it. The guy was walking to his listening spot before daylight one morning when a gobbler started putting at him. He spotted him in the tree against the open sky and shot him out with his shotgun. All he got was congrats from everyone. Some of you would know his name if I wrote it, so I won't.

Anyway, this same guy got the bright idea that he would just hunt with the rifle alone, and forget lugging 2 guns around. After having several come in behind him, see him, and then have him miss as they were running off, he quietly went back to lugging 2 guns around. You got a lot better chance at a moving turkey at 30 yards with a shotgun.

Since I didn't have a rifle, and didn't even have a decent shotgun, I was really glad when they outlawed the rifles; thought it gave me a better chance.

Season #49 coming up for me if I live that long, and if a longbeard were to fly the Cahaba River and light in a tree 50 yds away, I'm a blasting him out with tss. Course, if he flies the Cahaba that would mean I called him over 2 miles. smile

We need the season to hurry up and get here. Everybody's getting restless. This sounds like an OG thread. smile

Good hunting to all!


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Re: Ammo prices [Re: gobblebox] #542159
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The last bird I called in he ran in like a banshee after my first two yelps. I was late getting to the woods that morning, sat down, yelped, he ran in from 200 yards stopped at 8 steps went into a full strut. When he came out of that strut I dang near took his head off. Total Hunt time, maybe 5 minutes.

My most memorable (and difficult) hunts are the ones that I put the slip on. Figure out which way they're going and set up an ambush. These hunts usually last much longer, are more physically demanding and the birds are much more alert.

I take what I can get with whatever method works. Dead birds either way.

Re: Ammo prices [Re: poorcountrypreacher] #542168
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Originally Posted By: poorcountrypreacher
Originally Posted By: BhamFred
I still ain't heard an answer to whats the difference in shooting a bird at 30 yards with a rifle or with a shotgun....besides the legality thingy here in Bama.....


Troy, I'll give it a shot - its way harder to kill one with a rifle at 30 yards than with a shotgun. wink

I base that on experience; not mine, but one of the guys my dad hunted with back in the bad old days of the 60s when rifles were legal in AL. Everybody in his group carried a shotgun and a rifle, and if the turkey didn't get close enough for the shotgun, they used the rifle. Unethical? The thought never entered anyone's mind. Their goal was to kill turkeys, and they all did a pretty good job of it. The guy was walking to his listening spot before daylight one morning when a gobbler started putting at him. He spotted him in the tree against the open sky and shot him out with his shotgun. All he got was congrats from everyone. Some of you would know his name if I wrote it, so I won't.

Anyway, this same guy got the bright idea that he would just hunt with the rifle alone, and forget lugging 2 guns around. After having several come in behind him, see him, and then have him miss as they were running off, he quietly went back to lugging 2 guns around. You got a lot better chance at a moving turkey at 30 yards with a shotgun.

Since I didn't have a rifle, and didn't even have a decent shotgun, I was really glad when they outlawed the rifles; thought it gave me a better chance.

Season #49 coming up for me if I live that long, and if a longbeard were to fly the Cahaba River and light in a tree 50 yds away, I'm a blasting him out with tss. Course, if he flies the Cahaba that would mean I called him over 2 miles. smile

We need the season to hurry up and get here. Everybody's getting restless. This sounds like an OG thread. smile

Good hunting to all!


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Originally Posted By: poorcountrypreacher
Originally Posted By: BhamFred
I still ain't heard an answer to whats the difference in shooting a bird at 30 yards with a rifle or with a shotgun....besides the legality thingy here in Bama.....


Troy, I'll give it a shot - its way harder to kill one with a rifle at 30 yards than with a shotgun. wink

I base that on experience; not mine, but one of the guys my dad hunted with back in the bad old days of the 60s when rifles were legal in AL. Everybody in his group carried a shotgun and a rifle, and if the turkey didn't get close enough for the shotgun, they used the rifle. Unethical? The thought never entered anyone's mind. Their goal was to kill turkeys, and they all did a pretty good job of it. The guy was walking to his listening spot before daylight one morning when a gobbler started putting at him. He spotted him in the tree against the open sky and shot him out with his shotgun. All he got was congrats from everyone. Some of you would know his name if I wrote it, so I won't.

Anyway, this same guy got the bright idea that he would just hunt with the rifle alone, and forget lugging 2 guns around. After having several come in behind him, see him, and then have him miss as they were running off, he quietly went back to lugging 2 guns around. You got a lot better chance at a moving turkey at 30 yards with a shotgun.

Since I didn't have a rifle, and didn't even have a decent shotgun, I was really glad when they outlawed the rifles; thought it gave me a better chance.

Season #49 coming up for me if I live that long, and if a longbeard were to fly the Cahaba River and light in a tree 50 yds away, I'm a blasting him out with tss. Course, if he flies the Cahaba that would mean I called him over 2 miles. smile

We need the season to hurry up and get here. Everybody's getting restless. This sounds like an OG thread. smile

Good hunting to all!

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Them gobblers are starting to get pissed at each other and should start bustin up.I think we're all keyed up and ready to put some eyes out ourselves.Lol


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Ammo price question got 10 pages... That has to be some sort of record.

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Originally Posted By: jmj120
Ammo price question got 10 pages... That has to be some sort of record.


What was we talking about?


Do you want to hear him gobble, or do you want to kill him.
Re: Ammo prices [Re: n2deer] #542265
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Originally Posted By: n2deer
Originally Posted By: jmj120
Ammo price question got 10 pages... That has to be some sort of record.


What was we talking about?


How some Indians baited up, decoyed and killed Turkeys with souped up bow and arrows from their teepee blinds and were cast out of the tribe and not allowed to share in any casino profits.


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Also, I've killed turkeys at 10 steps after 10 minutes of calling and I've killed turkeys at 50 steps after 4 hours...I can assure you the satisfaction of the killing one after 4 hours outdoes the satisfaction of the one killed after 10 minutes.


Wow, great point. I have yelped one time and had gobblers fly down and land nearly on top of me. Can't imagine how that was more of an accomplishment than getting one to cross a 400 yard field and shooting him at 50 yards.

One of the birds I am most proud of I killed in what we call the middle field on our land. The first time that bird gobbled at me working a box call he was so far away I had to convince myself he was gobbling at me. It didn't seem possible. I eventually set up in a field corner on that bird and worked him for 3 hours before he walked into the range of the custom Nitros I was using that year. He must have gobbled 120 times but it was hell getting him to leave the little strut zone he was in. I have shot birds that were bigger and many way closer to me than that bird but none were more satisfying.

Shot distence is far from the only factor that makes a turkey hunt meaningful and often it plays no part whatsoever.

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