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Re: Hide yo kidz and hide yos wives.... [Re: arKic] #543697 02/27/13 04:08 PM 02/27/13 04:08 PM
Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 880 Enterprise, Alabama A arKic OP 6 point
arKic OP 6 point A Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 880 Enterprise, Alabama	I know one of the collectors in Georgia some of the finest hard stone ever found... All legally found in Georgia rivers or on private land with owners permission. The will not and do not dig in Florida state land. I just wonder how the State can prove where it came from...

Re: Hide yo kidz and hide yos wives.... [Re: arKic] #543701 02/27/13 04:12 PM 02/27/13 04:12 PM
Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 72,042 Luverne, AL Skinny GUVNER
Skinny GUVNER Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 72,042 Luverne, AL	There are several ways, but the obvious method that comes to mind is having an undercover operative who has them on tape saying where the stolen artifact came from. "Never Trust Government" -- Smart people. "The Great thing we should Fear and the Weird Thing we Trust is Elon Musk" -- Me "You can be broke but you cant be poor." -- Ruthie-May Webster

Re: Hide yo kidz and hide yos wives.... [Re: arKic] #543702 02/27/13 04:16 PM 02/27/13 04:16 PM
Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 880 Enterprise, Alabama A arKic OP 6 point
arKic OP 6 point A Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 880 Enterprise, Alabama	seems highly unlikely from the guys I know... But I guess that is up to the State to prove.

Re: Hide yo kidz and hide yos wives.... [Re: arKic] #543703 02/27/13 04:23 PM 02/27/13 04:23 PM
Joined: Feb 2012 Posts: 8,989 bessemer, al H hunterturf 14 point
hunterturf 14 point H Joined: Feb 2012 Posts: 8,989 bessemer, al	Thank goodness all of mine were stolen last week Give me bout 15 more minutes, I was dreamin about beavers.......... Si Robertson

Re: Hide yo kidz and hide yos wives.... [Re: arKic] #543728 02/27/13 05:00 PM 02/27/13 05:00 PM
Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 880 Enterprise, Alabama A arKic OP 6 point
arKic OP 6 point A Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 880 Enterprise, Alabama	http://madisonfloridavoice.net/?p=32970 here is the break down of the charges... Bottom line if you have an arrowhead from Florida, make sure everyone knows it's really from Georgia or Alabama!! For the ones that destroyed the sites? I have no pitty for ya, but the guys that picked points up off the bottom of a river and sold it? Man that is total BS and wrong for it to be a felony...

Re: Hide yo kidz and hide yos wives.... [Re: hunterturf] #543729 02/27/13 05:01 PM 02/27/13 05:01 PM
Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 9,877 in the corner S Stob 14 point
Stob 14 point S Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 9,877 in the corner	I'm telling ya, Florida is the East coast Kali. An over-regulated, overpopulated, POS Liberal/Yankee encrusted state.

Re: Hide yo kidz and hide yos wives.... [Re: arKic] #543752 02/27/13 05:36 PM 02/27/13 05:36 PM
Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 15,170 Fairhope bamachem Old Mossy Horns
bamachem Old Mossy Horns Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 15,170 Fairhope	Sounds like some of the arrowheads maybe were found on the banks or in shallow waters of a navigable waterway. That's state property and you can't keep what you find on state property. A serious collector should have known better. They probably busted most of them with incriminating statements like "I found that one in 2004 on the banks of the Swanee River." Bam. Admission of a felony. Crazy that the government went this far to nab people searching riverbanks though.... Last edited by bamachem; 02/27/13 05:36 PM. MOLON LABE

Re: Hide yo kidz and hide yos wives.... [Re: bamachem] #543783 02/27/13 06:13 PM 02/27/13 06:13 PM
Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 72,042 Luverne, AL Skinny GUVNER
Skinny GUVNER Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 72,042 Luverne, AL	Originally Posted By: bamachem Crazy that the government went this far to nab people searching riverbanks though.... From what I understand it wasnt just looking around on the riverbank, more like trenching out a riverbank with a mechanical dredge. "Never Trust Government" -- Smart people. "The Great thing we should Fear and the Weird Thing we Trust is Elon Musk" -- Me "You can be broke but you cant be poor." -- Ruthie-May Webster

Re: Hide yo kidz and hide yos wives.... [Re: Skinny] #543785 02/27/13 06:17 PM 02/27/13 06:17 PM
Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 25,415 Guntersville, AL IDOT I am Cornholio
IDOT I am Cornholio Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 25,415 Guntersville, AL	Dang, wonder how much time and fines some of these people are facing? Originally Posted by Patricia Heaton If you’re a common sense person, you probably don’t feel you have a home in this world right now. If you’re a Christian, you know you were never meant to.

Re: Hide yo kidz and hide yos wives.... [Re: IDOT] #543821 02/27/13 06:52 PM 02/27/13 06:52 PM
Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 9,877 in the corner S Stob 14 point
Stob 14 point S Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 9,877 in the corner	Crack rocks and Flint rocks......who is the REAL Criminal? What a waste of my money.

Re: Hide yo kidz and hide yos wives.... [Re: arKic] #543842 02/27/13 07:03 PM 02/27/13 07:03 PM
Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 13,609 In a Van, down by the River quailman Booner
quailman Booner Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 13,609 In a Van, down by the River	Folks git bit messin with arras and arraheads. Specially if you have over 575 dozen of them. Life is a journey. Make sure and bring plenty of Beer. My luck has been so bad lately, it could be raining pussies and I'd catch one with a dick broke off in it.

Re: Hide yo kidz and hide yos wives.... [Re: arKic] #543944 02/27/13 08:22 PM 02/27/13 08:22 PM
Joined: May 2011 Posts: 20,017 PDL, Fl T timbercruiser Freak of Nature
timbercruiser Freak of Nature T Joined: May 2011 Posts: 20,017 PDL, Fl	If they trenched and dredged out a riverbank the DEP an CORP will hang them for that alone.

Re: Hide yo kidz and hide yos wives.... [Re: timbercruiser] #543980 02/27/13 08:39 PM 02/27/13 08:39 PM
Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 1,060 God's Country B bowhunter86 6 point
bowhunter86 6 point B Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 1,060 God's Country	Not that this is related but I thought that if an arrowhead is exposed on the riverbank that it isn't illegal to pick it up. It has little archeological value at that point.

Re: Hide yo kidz and hide yos wives.... [Re: arKic] #544029 02/27/13 09:04 PM 02/27/13 09:04 PM
Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 21,569 colbert county cartervj Freak of Nature
cartervj Freak of Nature Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 21,569 colbert county	TVA has some new rules from what I've heard and are cracking down on people walking the banks. Last edited by cartervj; 02/27/13 09:04 PM. “Socialism only works in two places: Heaven where they don't need it and hell where they already have it.” ― Ronald Reagan

Re: Hide yo kidz and hide yos wives.... [Re: arKic] #544034 02/27/13 09:10 PM 02/27/13 09:10 PM
Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 72,042 Luverne, AL Skinny GUVNER
Skinny GUVNER Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 72,042 Luverne, AL	Nobody gets prosecuted for doing that, though technically that arrowhead belongs to whoever owns that property. Same as anything else on their property. If the property owner is the state, then its state property. Its the flagrant looting that the state usually goes after to prosecute, in this case it appears it was state parks and on a large scale. "Never Trust Government" -- Smart people. "The Great thing we should Fear and the Weird Thing we Trust is Elon Musk" -- Me "You can be broke but you cant be poor." -- Ruthie-May Webster

Re: Hide yo kidz and hide yos wives.... [Re: cartervj] #544038 02/27/13 09:14 PM 02/27/13 09:14 PM
Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 72,042 Luverne, AL Skinny GUVNER
Skinny GUVNER Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 72,042 Luverne, AL	Originally Posted By: cartervj TVA has some new rules from what I've heard and are cracking down on people walking the banks. And TVA does not fool around at all, they are Federal and much less lenient than the states. From what I have seen from illegal dumping and other things on TVA land, I'm surprised the feds let anyone walk on TVA land anymore. "Never Trust Government" -- Smart people. "The Great thing we should Fear and the Weird Thing we Trust is Elon Musk" -- Me "You can be broke but you cant be poor." -- Ruthie-May Webster

Re: Hide yo kidz and hide yos wives.... [Re: Skinny] #544040 02/27/13 09:14 PM 02/27/13 09:14 PM
Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 25,415 Guntersville, AL IDOT I am Cornholio
IDOT I am Cornholio Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 25,415 Guntersville, AL	You think they watch people at the Guntersville dam? I've always looked on the bank past the boat ramp but have never seen any. I bet after they close some of the flood gates there may be some laying around. However, I'm not going to pick one up and go to jail for it Originally Posted by Patricia Heaton If you’re a common sense person, you probably don’t feel you have a home in this world right now. If you’re a Christian, you know you were never meant to.

Re: Hide yo kidz and hide yos wives.... [Re: Skinny] #544137 02/27/13 11:53 PM 02/27/13 11:53 PM
Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 880 Enterprise, Alabama A arKic OP 6 point
arKic OP 6 point A Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 880 Enterprise, Alabama	Originally Posted By: Skinny Nobody gets prosecuted for doing that, though technically that arrowhead belongs to whoever owns that property. Same as anything else on their property. If the property owner is the state, then its state property. Its the flagrant looting that the state usually goes after to prosecute, in this case it appears it was state parks and on a large scale. Problem is, a river point is a felony. Problem is, its displaced and out of context "a page torn out of our history book" by Mother Nature. Loggers do more damage to the bottom of rivers than a driver looking for points.. The kats that dig in the parks need to be slammed!!!

Re: Hide yo kidz and hide yos wives.... [Re: arKic] #544139 02/28/13 12:26 AM 02/28/13 12:26 AM
Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,558 St. Clair County F Farmer Brown 8 point
Farmer Brown 8 point F Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,558 St. Clair County	TVA collecting is a no no. All of the Ala Power lakes are OK for surface collecting. No digging in graves. I have been looking for years on the Al Power lakes. Lake G-ville will get you a fine. It is just a matter of time until someone will get it stopped everywhere. I have Creek blood, so I am just preserving my ancestors tools. LOL Last edited by Farmer Brown; 02/28/13 12:29 AM.

Re: Hide yo kidz and hide yos wives.... [Re: arKic] #544153 02/28/13 05:00 AM 02/28/13 05:00 AM
Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 44,211 North Alabama W Wiley Coyote Freak of Nature
Wiley Coyote Freak of Nature W Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 44,211 North Alabama	Unless TVA has changed the reg you can pick up whatever is exposed but you can't dig even an inch down to uncover anything. I used to work on TVA Police comm setups and even got to see their evidence room where they had pictures from trailcams set up over dig sites. I specifically asked about picking up exposed points and they seid no problem but don't do what the folks in the pics were doing. Last edited by Wiley Coyote; 02/28/13 05:01 AM. I firmly believe that a double gallows should be constructed on the East Lawn of The White House. Politicians who willfully and shamelessly violate their oath to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States of America should be swiftly tried and, upon conviction, publicly hanged at sunup the day after conviction. If multiple convicts are to be hanged they can choose with whom to share the gallows or names shall be drawn from the hangman's hat to be hanged 2 at a time. NRA Life Member

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