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Re: Confused about baiting rule now
[Re: Ponderosa]
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03/28/13 09:37 AM
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jmj120
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heheheheheheheh.... I needed a good laugh this morning. As a non-agressive hunter, I think that anybody that shows up before 5:00 needs to get a life Agree.... I was in Ponderosa a few years ago, that's where it happened. Maybe things are better there now. I don't think you were there at the time. Great land, but there were a couple of members with teenage boys who just let them run wild all over the property. They would actually ride their scooters around 1pm to every food plot, check for tracks, then come back and sign out for a hunt. I couldn't handle it. Hope things are better there now.
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Re: Confused about baiting rule now
[Re: LIOJeff]
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03/28/13 10:52 AM
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BhamFred
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I hunted as a guest of a BIG club in Wilcox Co years ago. You could not sign in for an area before midnight. The guy I hunted with would go to bed, get up at 11pm and drive to the club to sign in at 12:01, then go home and go back to bed. Seen it myself.
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
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muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
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Re: Confused about baiting rule now
[Re: BhamFred]
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03/28/13 11:04 AM
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jmj120
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I hunted as a guest of a BIG club in Wilcox Co years ago. You could not sign in for an area before midnight. The guy I hunted with would go to bed, get up at 11pm and drive to the club to sign in at 12:01, then go home and go back to bed. Seen it myself. Unreal. I ain't never been that mad at them.
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Re: Confused about baiting rule now
[Re: Ponderosa]
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03/28/13 03:10 PM
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jmj120
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Some people just take it too serious. We still have "agressive hunters" but we are trying to put in rules to cut down on the amount of traffic on the property during the season. Pressure is the number one problem and we have cut back on the number of bucks per membership and put in a better buck rule. Yeah, that was what I didn't like there. There were 2 members causing 90% of the problems. I've come to realize if you have`
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Re: Confused about baiting rule now
[Re: Ponderosa]
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03/28/13 03:13 PM
03/28/13 03:13 PM
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jmj120
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Some people just take it too serious. We still have "agressive hunters" but we are trying to put in rules to cut down on the amount of traffic on the property during the season. Pressure is the number one problem and we have cut back on the number of bucks per membership and put in a better buck rule. Yeah, that was a couple of the things I didn't like there. Loved the land, but 2 members were causing 90% of the problems, and 1 member was killing it during the week. I have figured out a club with 2 pages of rules has problems. What I'm saying is if you have to address common sense issues with a rule, you might have the wrong members. The lease I'm in now has 4 or 5 rules. Basically turn off the lights and lock the gate. We have absolutely no drama or problems and I love it.
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Re: Confused about baiting rule now
[Re: BhamFred]
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03/29/13 05:20 AM
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poorcountrypreacher
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I hunted as a guest of a BIG club in Wilcox Co years ago. You could not sign in for an area before midnight. The guy I hunted with would go to bed, get up at 11pm and drive to the club to sign in at 12:01, then go home and go back to bed. Seen it myself. That had to have been Flat wood. I admit to making several of those midnight trips myself. But what's really bad is that some would often sign in before midnight. The next guy would scratch the name out and flag it for being too early. There wasn't a bad place to hunt on the club, but they told me I had to GI sign in if I wanted to hunt with them Good to see you posting again Troy; we missed you! Come over and tell us a turkey story.
All the labor of man is for his mouth, and yet the appetite is not filled.
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Re: Confused about baiting rule now
[Re: Ponderosa]
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03/29/13 03:13 PM
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....but we are trying to ... put in a better buck rule. Yeah you guys really need to do that. I looked at your website and 95% of the bucks looked like baby 2.5 year old basket racks. 
"The Tree of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson
" Chuck Sykes is a dictator control freak like Vladimir Putin " WmHunter
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Re: Confused about baiting rule now
[Re: poorcountrypreacher]
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03/29/13 03:48 PM
03/29/13 03:48 PM
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BhamFred
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I hunted as a guest of a BIG club in Wilcox Co years ago. You could not sign in for an area before midnight. The guy I hunted with would go to bed, get up at 11pm and drive to the club to sign in at 12:01, then go home and go back to bed. Seen it myself. That had to have been Flat wood. I admit to making several of those midnight trips myself. But what's really bad is that some would often sign in before midnight. The next guy would scratch the name out and flag it for being too early. it was Flat Wood Hunting Club, lots of deer there in the late 70's... There wasn't a bad place to hunt on the club, but they told me I had to GI sign in if I wanted to hunt with them Good to see you posting again Troy; we missed you! Come over and tell us a turkey story.
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
proud Cracker-Americaan
muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
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Re: Confused about baiting rule now
[Re: timbercruiser]
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03/29/13 05:53 PM
03/29/13 05:53 PM
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swamp_fever2002
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What is suppose to come out of it? Another 8 - 16 page topic or three.
It takes a long time to grow an old friend.
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Re: Confused about baiting rule now
[Re: dattangdiff]
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03/31/13 11:38 AM
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Talked to warden again yday and he said they are just gonna write more hunters orange tickets, licenses not actually on the hunters and deer not marked or called in whichever they go with.
He said they were meeting in a month or so to go over this and learn exactly how they are goin to police this new rule.
As a club board member I wished they had either left it alone or jus made it legal. Reason being if one guys puts it out and another gets to close not knowing its there he gets a ticket. This sucks ! The government NEVER does anything for you, but they certainly do things to you!! If they make baiting legal they should make spotlighting legal!
"After all, it is not the killing that brings satisfaction; it is the contest of skill and cunning. The true hunter counts his achievement in proportion to the effort involved and the fairness of the sport." Dr. Saxton Pope
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Re: Confused about baiting rule now
[Re: dattangdiff]
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03/31/13 12:22 PM
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bigt
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As a club board member I wished they had either left it alone or jus made it legal. Reason being if one guys puts it out and another gets to close not knowing its there he gets a ticket. This sucks !
It is going to be easy at my club......just because the State says you can do it does not mean I have to let you. You want to put corn out go somewhere else.
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Re: Confused about baiting rule now
[Re: Fun4all]
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03/31/13 01:00 PM
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ElkHunter
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Talked to warden again yday and he said they are just gonna write more hunters orange tickets, licenses not actually on the hunters and deer not marked or called in whichever they go with.
He said they were meeting in a month or so to go over this and learn exactly how they are goin to police this new rule.
As a club board member I wished they had either left it alone or jus made it legal. Reason being if one guys puts it out and another gets to close not knowing its there he gets a ticket. This sucks ! The government NEVER does anything for you, but they certainly do things to you!! If they make baiting legal they should make spotlighting legal! WHAT????????????????
Alabama Hog Control, Inc. www.alabamahogcontrol.comBarry Estes The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. Edmund Burke
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Re: Confused about baiting rule now
[Re: dattangdiff]
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03/31/13 02:38 PM
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bigt
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Well our board will vote and we will follow that. Won't be based on one person
The should also make green fields illegal to right? As far as I can see it with a club there is no way to let individuals feed anywhere they want to unless your board is ok with innocent members getting tickets. It should either be club feeding stations that are clearly marked that everyone knows about and are shown or no feed at all.....still pretty simple.
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Re: Confused about baiting rule now
[Re: ElkHunter]
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03/31/13 03:46 PM
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Fun4all
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Talked to warden again yday and he said they are just gonna write more hunters orange tickets, licenses not actually on the hunters and deer not marked or called in whichever they go with.
He said they were meeting in a month or so to go over this and learn exactly how they are goin to police this new rule.
As a club board member I wished they had either left it alone or jus made it legal. Reason being if one guys puts it out and another gets to close not knowing its there he gets a ticket. This sucks ! The government NEVER does anything for you, but they certainly do things to you!! If they make baiting legal they should make spotlighting legal! WHAT???????????????? LOL!!!! To some a dead deer is a dead deer no matter whether it is killed with a spear along a trail or killed with a howitzer standing over a pile of corn, so why would spotlighting and shooting a deer be any different?? Before the issue of safety is brought up, the other methods have safety concerns also. What it boils down to is where does the line get drawn for ways to kill a deer?? It seems that more and more people want the absolute easiest way to do it, so where does it stop?? Just questions to ponder when one starts thinking about ways to take advantage at any cost.
"After all, it is not the killing that brings satisfaction; it is the contest of skill and cunning. The true hunter counts his achievement in proportion to the effort involved and the fairness of the sport." Dr. Saxton Pope
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Re: Confused about baiting rule now
[Re: bigt]
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03/31/13 05:02 PM
03/31/13 05:02 PM
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Bamarich2
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Well our board will vote and we will follow that. Won't be based on one person
The should also make green fields illegal to right? As far as I can see it with a club there is no way to let individuals feed anywhere they want to unless your board is ok with innocent members getting tickets. It should either be club feeding stations that are clearly marked that everyone knows about and are shown or no feed at all.....still pretty simple. Our club plan last year had it passed would have been to establish ten feeding sights at various places on our lease. No way we can let 20 guys randomly put corn out at any location they wish - that's a recipe for trouble.
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Re: Confused about baiting rule now
[Re: Fun4all]
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04/01/13 03:22 AM
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jmj120
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Talked to warden again yday and he said they are just gonna write more hunters orange tickets, licenses not actually on the hunters and deer not marked or called in whichever they go with.
He said they were meeting in a month or so to go over this and learn exactly how they are goin to police this new rule.
As a club board member I wished they had either left it alone or jus made it legal. Reason being if one guys puts it out and another gets to close not knowing its there he gets a ticket. This sucks ! The government NEVER does anything for you, but they certainly do things to you!! If they make baiting legal they should make spotlighting legal! WHAT???????????????? LOL!!!! To some a dead deer is a dead deer no matter whether it is killed with a spear along a trail or killed with a howitzer standing over a pile of corn, so why would spotlighting and shooting a deer be any different?? Before the issue of safety is brought up, the other methods have safety concerns also. What it boils down to is where does the line get drawn for ways to kill a deer?? It seems that more and more people want the absolute easiest way to do it, so where does it stop?? Just questions to ponder when one starts thinking about ways to take advantage at any cost. That is the craziest reasoning I've ever seen. Just more of Alabama's backwards arse way of doing things. Is it easier to kill a deer in Texas or Florida?? Think outside the box every now and again.
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