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Re: Suppose you killed a deer today:
[Re: 49er]
#600802
05/31/13 09:47 AM
05/31/13 09:47 AM
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Tuscaloosa Co.
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Tuscaloosa Co.
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I don't know why DCNR is worried about the number of deer taken. Cause whenever ALFA tells them they are paying off too many deer vs car MVAs, they'll increase the harvest numbers. I heard Commissioner Guy state that the DCNR didn't have a management objective. How can you make management decisions without an objective?
83% of all statistics are made up.
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Re: Suppose you killed a deer today:
[Re: 49er]
#600816
05/31/13 10:34 AM
05/31/13 10:34 AM
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Mobile,AL
jsh1904
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Mobile,AL
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First thing first, I'm hiding my spotlight.
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Re: Suppose you killed a deer today:
[Re: xrcrtr1]
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05/31/13 10:52 AM
05/31/13 10:52 AM
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Dothan
LIOJeff
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Dothan
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We have to call and check our deer in in Ohio and it has never been a problem for me; to be honest it is easier than when we had to take it to a check in station. In Ohio when you kill it you have to tag it with your temporary tag then when you get a chance call and get a confirmation number for your permanent tags. One tag has to stay with the meat and the other with the carcass. In would venture to say that even with a restricted harvest there is not a major problem with people not tagging their deer, DCNR doesn't play around. If you haven't noticed people in Alabama resist change, good or bad.
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Re: Suppose you killed a deer today:
[Re: LIOJeff]
#600829
05/31/13 10:59 AM
05/31/13 10:59 AM
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Jasper, AL
joshm28
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Jasper, AL
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We have to call and check our deer in in Ohio and it has never been a problem for me; to be honest it is easier than when we had to take it to a check in station. In Ohio when you kill it you have to tag it with your temporary tag then when you get a chance call and get a confirmation number for your permanent tags. One tag has to stay with the meat and the other with the carcass. In would venture to say that even with a restricted harvest there is not a major problem with people not tagging their deer, DCNR doesn't play around. If you haven't noticed people in Alabama resist change, good or bad. You are correct. I still don't see much downside to doing this. Other than the occasional driving up the road to get enough service to call out. At the very minimum the state will have some idea as to the actual numbers being killed every season, not some wild a@@ guess.
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Re: Suppose you killed a deer yesterday:
[Re: 49er]
#600857
05/31/13 11:38 AM
05/31/13 11:38 AM
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Opelika ,AL
bwhunter
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Pretend it's hunting season and you killed a deer yesterday. You need to get a DCNR "confirmation number"within 24 hours: The DCNR website has been down since yesterday. What would you do? The CAB unanimously approved the establishment of a mandatory game check system for the 2013-2014 deer hunting season. In addition to completing the Alabama Harvest Record upon the harvest of an antlered buck or turkey, hunters will be required to record their harvest into a game check database and obtain a harvest confirmation number for each animal taken. There are three ways to record the harvest and receive the harvest confirmation number: through the Outdoor Alabama website, the Outdoor Alabama App for both Droid and iPhone, or by calling a 1-800 number. All deer, antlered and unantlered, and turkey must be registered within 24 hours of harvest. I just dialed the DCNR 1-800 number and got a recorded message telling me to check their website for more information... but the website is down. The phone refers to the website because there is nothing in season to check in right now. The system will be easy to use. How do so many other states have a check system and still function? Change is sometimes good.
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Re: Suppose you killed a deer yesterday:
[Re: bwhunter]
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05/31/13 11:40 AM
05/31/13 11:40 AM
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Round ‘bout there
Clem
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Round ‘bout there
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The system will be easy to use. How do so many other states have a check system and still function? Bah. That's neither here nor there. Alabama's site was down today. The sky is falling.
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Re: Suppose you killed a deer today:
[Re: Vulkanman]
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05/31/13 11:52 AM
05/31/13 11:52 AM
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Falkville
MTeague
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The reality is that this is a first step towards a tag system, with a cumbersome non-working system in place anyone can figure out that the majority of deer that make it to a processor or club cutting table and not to a taxidermist won't be called in, period. After a couple of years of having 40,000 deer called in they will "need" to create an enforceable system with tags & check-stations and the whole shebang so that they can satisfy the picky-butts who want to know a precise number of the deer legally killed in their town, county & state.
They will be so tied up regulating the legal hunters that nobody will have time to set up stings or chase down night-hunters, so again it will run rampant and nobody will have a clue as to how many deer are really being killed every year.
All a Game Warden would have to do it go by the processor and get a list of who all dropped deer off. Then he can check to see if each one had been checked in with-in the 24 hr period.
I had much rather be tried by twelve than carried to my grave by six!!!!
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Re: Suppose you killed a deer today:
[Re: MTeague]
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05/31/13 12:00 PM
05/31/13 12:00 PM
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Henry county
coldtrail
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The reality is that this is a first step towards a tag system, with a cumbersome non-working system in place anyone can figure out that the majority of deer that make it to a processor or club cutting table and not to a taxidermist won't be called in, period. After a couple of years of having 40,000 deer called in they will "need" to create an enforceable system with tags & check-stations and the whole shebang so that they can satisfy the picky-butts who want to know a precise number of the deer legally killed in their town, county & state.
They will be so tied up regulating the legal hunters that nobody will have time to set up stings or chase down night-hunters, so again it will run rampant and nobody will have a clue as to how many deer are really being killed every year.
All a Game Warden would have to do it go by the processor and get a list of who all dropped deer off. Then he can check to see if each one had been checked in with-in the 24 hr period. that's exactly why I process my own. That and I'm cheap 
Last edited by coldtrail; 05/31/13 12:02 PM.
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Re: Suppose you killed a deer yesterday:
[Re: 49er]
#600883
05/31/13 12:03 PM
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Sylacauga
doecommander
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things that make you go hmmmmmmm
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The information obtained through this check system will not be complete. Alot of people will not report their kills. I bet alot more does get reported than bucks. Folks will not report bucks because they will still want to kill more than 3.
doecommander out...........................
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Re: Suppose you killed a deer yesterday:
[Re: 49er]
#600901
05/31/13 01:01 PM
05/31/13 01:01 PM
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Posts: 15,064
Tuscaloosa Co.
N2TRKYS
Old Mossy Horns
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Old Mossy Horns
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Yes, you still have to note it before you tote it.
83% of all statistics are made up.
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Re: Suppose you killed a deer today:
[Re: MTeague]
#600931
05/31/13 02:07 PM
05/31/13 02:07 PM
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Posts: 678
Florence, AL
Jack Fate
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Florence, AL
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All a Game Warden would have to do it go by the processor and get a list of who all dropped deer off. Then he can check to see if each one had been checked in with-in the 24 hr period.
Wouldn't he need some kind of warrant or court order? If I were a processor I wouldn't be giving a list to them voluntarily. Then again I still believe in the 4th amendment.
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