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Suppose you killed a deer yesterday:
#600716
05/31/13 07:04 AM
05/31/13 07:04 AM
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Warrior River Country
49er
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Warrior River Country
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Pretend it's hunting season and you killed a deer yesterday. You need to get a DCNR "confirmation number"within 24 hours: The DCNR website has been down since yesterday. What would you do? The CAB unanimously approved the establishment of a mandatory game check system for the 2013-2014 deer hunting season. In addition to completing the Alabama Harvest Record upon the harvest of an antlered buck or turkey, hunters will be required to record their harvest into a game check database and obtain a harvest confirmation number for each animal taken. There are three ways to record the harvest and receive the harvest confirmation number: through the Outdoor Alabama website, the Outdoor Alabama App for both Droid and iPhone, or by calling a 1-800 number. All deer, antlered and unantlered, and turkey must be registered within 24 hours of harvest. I just dialed the DCNR 1-800 number and got a recorded message telling me to check their website for more information... but the website is down.
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Re: Suppose you killed a deer today:
[Re: I_hate_poachers]
#600722
05/31/13 07:13 AM
05/31/13 07:13 AM
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Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 10,997
Warrior River Country
49er
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So are they making it mandatory to record your harvest online for next season? Private land to? That's what they say. No such rule has been advertised in the Alabama Administrative Monthly though.
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Re: Suppose you killed a deer today:
[Re: 49er]
#600746
05/31/13 07:56 AM
05/31/13 07:56 AM
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Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 15,060
Tuscaloosa Co.
N2TRKYS
Old Mossy Horns
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Old Mossy Horns
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Tuscaloosa Co.
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49er, you'll do like a majority of the people will do and not worry about calling it in.
83% of all statistics are made up.
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Re: Suppose you killed a deer today:
[Re: 49er]
#600751
05/31/13 08:02 AM
05/31/13 08:02 AM
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Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 52,123
Round ‘bout there
Clem
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Dammitman, haven't you been around long enough to know not to kick the hive?
"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
"Bible says you shouldn't put sugar in your cornbread." Dustin, 2013
"Best I can figure 97.365% of the general public is a paint chip eating, mouth breathing, certified dumbass." BCLC, 2020
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Re: Suppose you killed a deer today:
[Re: N2TRKYS]
#600753
05/31/13 08:06 AM
05/31/13 08:06 AM
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Posts: 13,401
Mobile Alabama
TChunter
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Mobile Alabama
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49er, you'll do like a majority of the people will do and not worry about calling it in. Im not saying thats what I plan on doing, but it probably is. Stupid.
On the Eighth day God created flounder.
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Re: Suppose you killed a deer today:
[Re: Clem]
#600754
05/31/13 08:09 AM
05/31/13 08:09 AM
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Tuscaloosa Co.
N2TRKYS
Old Mossy Horns
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Old Mossy Horns
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Dammitman, haven't you been around long enough to know not to kick the hive? You're right about that. Guess I wasn't thinking. I just don't think many people will call'em in. I tried to buy a fishing licenses yesterday and the lady on the phone had a problem. She referred me to the costumer service number and they referred me back to that first lady. I told the lady they are gonna have a hard time during deer and turkey season.
83% of all statistics are made up.
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Re: Suppose you killed a deer today:
[Re: 49er]
#600759
05/31/13 08:17 AM
05/31/13 08:17 AM
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Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 52,123
Round ‘bout there
Clem
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Glitches happen with technology. A hunter can only make a good-faith effort.
"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
"Bible says you shouldn't put sugar in your cornbread." Dustin, 2013
"Best I can figure 97.365% of the general public is a paint chip eating, mouth breathing, certified dumbass." BCLC, 2020
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Re: Suppose you killed a deer yesterday:
[Re: 49er]
#600766
05/31/13 08:45 AM
05/31/13 08:45 AM
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Warrior River Country
49er
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It's good that we have a few journalist in our state that aren't kissing the boots of DCNR leaders: Good information about DCNR methods *** click here *** Can you believe this crap??? Guy cited the new game check program as one of the reasons to eliminate the fall turkey season.
Guy said that it was not cost-effective for the department to collect information about turkeys harvested during the fall, because only six counties allow fall turkey hunting. He said the game-check program is a state-wide registration system.
For those of you who place your full faith and allegiance in the DCNR to have full control of managing wildlife in our state: Wildlife Biologist Steve Barnett, the District 5 wildlife supervisor for the Alabama Department of Conservation and Natural Resources and the Wild Turkey Project study leader, said there is no biological reason to close the fall turkey season.
Barnett said the DCNR’s approach to estimating game populations is not scientific. Wildlife officials use game cameras, road counts and hunter surveys to help estimate game populations, paying special attention to the survival of newly spring hatched birds.
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Re: Suppose you killed a deer today:
[Re: Clem]
#600768
05/31/13 08:48 AM
05/31/13 08:48 AM
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Madison, AL
wmd
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Glitches happen with technology. A hunter can only make a good-faith effort. Is that a rebuttable presumption or would a hunter get a "good-faith" citation?
"Any way you look at it, most of the problems facing baboons can be expressed in two words: other baboons" -
D.L. Cheney and R.M. Seyfarth
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Re: Suppose you killed a deer today:
[Re: wmd]
#600773
05/31/13 08:58 AM
05/31/13 08:58 AM
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Joined: Dec 2002
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Round ‘bout there
Clem
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Is that a rebuttable presumption or would a hunter get a "good-faith" citation?
So if the DCNR number/site goes down, are you going to leave a deer laying like 49er suggested? If you called from the field or somewhere with your cell phone, there's a time stamp that would/could indicate you did indeed make an effort. If you called from home on a land line, you'd probably be able to contact a GW or district biologist easier, or even from a cell, to find out what to do if the DCNR's check-in site was down. And glitches do happen.
"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
"Bible says you shouldn't put sugar in your cornbread." Dustin, 2013
"Best I can figure 97.365% of the general public is a paint chip eating, mouth breathing, certified dumbass." BCLC, 2020
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Re: Suppose you killed a deer today:
[Re: 49er]
#600781
05/31/13 09:11 AM
05/31/13 09:11 AM
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Madison, AL
wmd
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I don't see a need to leave a deer in the woods - a hunter would have 24 hours to call it in. It might dissaude me from strapping it across the hood of my sub-compact car and parading it around town for everybody to see if I wasn't able to get it checked in within the 24 hr window though.
Just wondering if glitches as an excuse will be written in to the new regulation much like distance/obstructions are written in to the area/baiting/supplemental feeding "clarification".
"Any way you look at it, most of the problems facing baboons can be expressed in two words: other baboons" -
D.L. Cheney and R.M. Seyfarth
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Re: Suppose you killed a deer today:
[Re: wmd]
#600783
05/31/13 09:14 AM
05/31/13 09:14 AM
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Posts: 52,123
Round ‘bout there
Clem
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I don't see a need to leave a deer in the woods - a hunter would have 24 hours to call it in. Exactly, making that assertion or question moot from the start. As for the inevitable glitches, who knows. Maybe they will.
"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
"Bible says you shouldn't put sugar in your cornbread." Dustin, 2013
"Best I can figure 97.365% of the general public is a paint chip eating, mouth breathing, certified dumbass." BCLC, 2020
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Re: Suppose you killed a deer today:
[Re: 49er]
#600792
05/31/13 09:31 AM
05/31/13 09:31 AM
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Posts: 6,183
alex city
oakachoy
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I find myself wondering how it would have been at the DCNR meeting last night listening to Chuck Sikes if 49er would have been there.
I would have paid to be on the front row.
common sense, common sense, supplemental feeding..too much open interpretation.
A lot of talk about how easy it will be to report the kill's.
The biggest complaint i heard from people there was deer and turkey population is down, I'm not sure about that?
WM Hunter "Trump literally sacrificed himself, his family and all of his businesses for this country.
He literally is a true American hero. And True American Patriot - warts and all."
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Re: Suppose you killed a deer today:
[Re: 49er]
#600793
05/31/13 09:35 AM
05/31/13 09:35 AM
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Posts: 2,236
Foley, AL
Vulkanman
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Foley, AL
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The reality is that this is a first step towards a tag system, with a cumbersome non-working system in place anyone can figure out that the majority of deer that make it to a processor or club cutting table and not to a taxidermist won't be called in, period. After a couple of years of having 40,000 deer called in they will "need" to create an enforceable system with tags & check-stations and the whole shebang so that they can satisfy the picky-butts who want to know a precise number of the deer legally killed in their town, county & state.
They will be so tied up regulating the legal hunters that nobody will have time to set up stings or chase down night-hunters, so again it will run rampant and nobody will have a clue as to how many deer are really being killed every year.
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Re: Suppose you killed a deer today:
[Re: 49er]
#600801
05/31/13 09:47 AM
05/31/13 09:47 AM
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Posts: 6,218
Henry county
coldtrail
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Posts: 6,218
Henry county
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I'm glad I live on my own land and can hunt it. Nothing is gonna change for me.
"And the days that I keep my gratitude
Higher than my expectations
Well, I have really good days" Ray Wylie Hubbard
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